Removing screen on intake install
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St. Jude Donor '09
Originally Posted by Need4Speed05
see im having that same problem... i just got the halltech too and the check engine light is on. i thought it was either the maf or my car was running lean..... did your do that?
It is virtually impossible to throw a code with the Stinger and a screened MAF.
Take the car into the dealer. There are hundreds of problems that can pop the SES light, not related to the intake.
Our C6 Stinger does not alter Long Term Trims at all, which is why programming is not required with the intake.
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well see i removed my screen and why wouldnt it throw codes because the computer prolly isnt registering the amount of air coming through but i just know that within 2 miles it came on but i am going to take it into the dearlership and have it checked out...
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St. Jude Donor '09
Originally Posted by Need4Speed05
well see i removed my screen and why wouldnt it throw codes because the computer prolly isnt registering the amount of air coming through but i just know that within 2 miles it came on but i am going to take it into the dearlership and have it checked out...
Also make sure that the bridge is not pushed too far into the filter. Our directions illustrate how to scribe a mark to assure that there is no protrusion into the filter beyond the flange. This will cause poor performance, but will not cause codes.
You might want to send a picture of the intalled unit to jim@corvetteC5.com. I'll check it out to see if there is anything obvious like hose clamps that may be on wrong or some other minor detail.
Here are our detailed instructions in pdf format:
http://www.corvettec5.com/Halltech%2...ions%20pdf.pdf
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St. Jude Donor '09
Originally Posted by OBSSSD@work
Don't ever take the screen out. You will not gain anything except problems. It will flow without restriction to 600rwhp with the screen in.
Chris
Chris
We actually tested the C6 with a 2004 Z06 MAF for 1 month. Programming was required to get proper fuel trims.
No power gains on the dyno was the result.
Now what would you think of an intake system the was near identical to the new Z06 system, with a high flow filter, probe MAF sensor, and True Ram Air?
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Originally Posted by Jim Hall
We actually tested the C6 with a 2004 Z06 MAF for 1 month. Programming was required to get proper fuel trims.
No power gains on the dyno was the result.
Now what would you think of an intake system the was near identical to the new Z06 system, with a high flow filter, probe MAF sensor, and True Ram Air?
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Info I found out on screen
Went to the dealership and talked with my mechanic. He has been working on vettes for 20 years he knows his stuff. My car had the lean codes as we all thought but he absolutely assured me it was not from removing the screen. With the Vortex Ram it is not a screen issue with the Halltech it is...... He said the reason for the code in my car was one of the bands was not tight enough. What happens is there is such a turbulance in the ram box that it will eventually shake the bands slightly loose and if the intake sucks any air from anywhere other then where it is suppose to you will code. He also said the Vortex was the best intake for the C6. Vortex has gone to great lenghts to make a dependable unit. We will see for now no codes. Hope this helped someone else
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
I removed the screen on my C5 and there was a throttle tip in hesitation when you went from coast to on the throttle and I couldn't get rid of it. I had no coeds thrown. A tuner told me to use the Z06 MAF table that was calibrated for the use of a screenless MAF (HPtuners or LS1edit). This solved the problem. The MAF airflow is calculated with it in place and it does throw the calibration off to remove it. The airflow increases relatiev to the stock MAF faster in percentage as the frequency rises and thus on the C6 you would need to do the same thing. A percentage multiplication of the table will suffice that is similar to the one on the Z06 since it is the same MAF.
All the die hard believers in GM's design abilities then should swear that the removeal of the screen is better since they did it for their 2002+ Z06.
Anyone know if the Z06 2006 has a screen?
All the die hard believers in GM's design abilities then should swear that the removeal of the screen is better since they did it for their 2002+ Z06.
Anyone know if the Z06 2006 has a screen?
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
I removed the screen on my C5 and there was a throttle tip in hesitation when you went from coast to on the throttle and I couldn't get rid of it. I had no coeds thrown. A tuner told me to use the Z06 MAF table that was calibrated for the use of a screenless MAF (HPtuners or LS1edit). This solved the problem. The MAF airflow is calculated with it in place and it does throw the calibration off to remove it. The airflow increases relatiev to the stock MAF faster in percentage as the frequency rises and thus on the C6 you would need to do the same thing. A percentage multiplication of the table will suffice that is similar to the one on the Z06 since it is the same MAF.
All the die hard believers in GM's design abilities then should swear that the removal of the screen is better since they did it for their 2002+ Z06.
Anyone know if the Z06 2006 has a screen?
All the die hard believers in GM's design abilities then should swear that the removal of the screen is better since they did it for their 2002+ Z06.
Anyone know if the Z06 2006 has a screen?
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From: Olathe Kansas
Originally Posted by aaaaa
I'm goind to put my screen back in-I want that 50 HP 
If this is directed at me, the Camaro could not be adiquately tuned correctly with any aftermarket or descreened factory MAF. Finally with reinstalling the factory screened MAF the tuner was able tune the car properly....and on a turbcharged fully forged 355CI engine, I assure you it is very easy to find an additional 50hp in tuning. Thanks for pulling the BS flag when you don't know what you're talking about.
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St. Jude Donor '09
Originally Posted by SpinMonster
I removed the screen on my C5 and there was a throttle tip in hesitation when you went from coast to on the throttle and I couldn't get rid of it. I had no coeds thrown. A tuner told me to use the Z06 MAF table that was calibrated for the use of a screenless MAF (HPtuners or LS1edit). This solved the problem. The MAF airflow is calculated with it in place and it does throw the calibration off to remove it. The airflow increases relatiev to the stock MAF faster in percentage as the frequency rises and thus on the C6 you would need to do the same thing. A percentage multiplication of the table will suffice that is similar to the one on the Z06 since it is the same MAF.
All the die hard believers in GM's design abilities then should swear that the removal of the screen is better since they did it for their 2002+ Z06.
Anyone know if the Z06 2006 has a screen?
All the die hard believers in GM's design abilities then should swear that the removal of the screen is better since they did it for their 2002+ Z06.
Anyone know if the Z06 2006 has a screen?
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St. Jude Donor '06
Light came on when
Originally Posted by 05_C6Z51
Question for the guys thrwoing codes. Is the light coming on for about three engine cycles then going off again?
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From: stafford country, va. Avatar: Me on turn 3 @ Bristol (The World's Fastest Half-Mile)
Originally Posted by Jim Hall
No screen and no integrated MAF. The new MAF sensor is the Hitachi Probe MAF sensor.
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Originally Posted by dshaner1
If this is directed at me, the Camaro could not be adiquately tuned correctly with any aftermarket or descreened factory MAF. Finally with reinstalling the factory screened MAF the tuner was able tune the car properly....and on a turbcharged fully forged 355CI engine, I assure you it is very easy to find an additional 50hp in tuning. Thanks for pulling the BS flag when you don't know what you're talking about.
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I removed my screen and I AM thrwoing codes. The codes reset after three cycles. I'm going to take the advice in this thread and rotate the MAF 90 degrees and see if that helps. (Note: I'm using the stinger but it did not cause the codes.)
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From: stafford country, va. Avatar: Me on turn 3 @ Bristol (The World's Fastest Half-Mile)
Originally Posted by par34n5
... Is the hose inserted through the top or side of the tube after the sensor in straight on yours or crooked. Mine is in crooked and loose I wonder if this is the reason for the code.... Thanks Bill