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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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In my opinion the 77 Corvette is hardly what I would call a "high water mark" in the history of Corvette. You can plop a big engine in anything and call it a great car if going fast in a straight line is all you want. I have a 61 and a 65 and those are great Corvettes. However my C6 is a terrific all around Vette that takes a back seat to none of them. I've owned big blocks and a lot of other fast cars over the years, but this new Vette is a real driver's car that really gets up and goes and will handle a road course a hell of alot better than a 77.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Keep in mind that I wasn't around in the 60's, was too young to drive in the 70's and had no money in the 80's and 90's . . . . .but from what I have seen of earlier vettes, they offered a great deal of what was available at the time. Today's technology is what it is, and the consumer expects it. The price of the car has remained relatively in line compared to the earlier models. My parents paid less than 20K for their house in 1970 - it apraised for over 300k last month. Welcome to 2005!
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I'm with the earlier posts - buy one stripped, take out the noise insulation, change out some parts, lighten the load, add some headers, and then you'll have a cool, raw car. How many people can GM sell a raw bare to bones car to for $45k and up?
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Or, get an Elise!
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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today i went to see the new C6 and i had a great disillusion...
the car is too borguoise, too soft, too pampering, too similar to the mitsubishi gto twin turbo inside and out...too many electronic devises, a truck exhaust (that's why borla/corsa/etc make a lot of money... )...
before you kill me streight away pls let me say i'm a corvette driver, but i like to drive real corvettes, i have a raw and b...a...lightened '77 C3 with a sweet 406ci 575hp stroker, very politically INcorrect, hard and with no luxury devises for soft a..s :o ......
i cant understand why GM did not launch a basic C6 with no power sistems, no luxury complements, and possibly with the Z engine ..it would be lighter, faster and cheaper!!

well, give me now the eye bandage and pls send the body to my mom
your talking bout a factory vette like the ferrari 360 challenge stradale or the porsche 911 turbo gt3RS. sounds like a cool idea, but GM needs to square away other depts first.
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There is one truly simple answer. Profit. Despite GM's poor results of late, the fact is that they are in business to maximize profits. They are going to tailor the Corvette to maximize profits. If they thought that selling stripped down Corvettes would add to the bottom line, they would.

Lets not forget that at one time in about 1998, that is what they were planning for the upcoming "FRC". One plan was to decontent it to be a simple, more basic performance car. They talked about cloth seats and some other deletes. But the C5 was selling so well that they changed their plan and kept it with more luxury equipment on it. Why sell a cheaper car when they can sell all the more expensive ones that they can make?
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today i went to see the new C6 and i had a great disillusion...
the car is too borguoise, too soft, too pampering, too similar to the
> borguoise
Were you attempting to spell bourgeoisie?
Definition: In Marxist theory, the social group opposed to the proletariat in the class struggle

Typical f***ing European intellectual.

The car is American, and it doesn't give a crap about Marxist theory, or the proletariat.

Sorry, I guess I killed you. Chi se ne fot.

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Hey! I resemble that remark. Four years ago when I was 61 I bought a C5(pewter no less) to ward off the onset of middle age. I've had it up to 100 mph! Since then it took me almost 30 hours to run the Western States 100 mile endurance run!
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Is this the right time to bring up the fact that I want controls on the wheel for the cruise and stereo? hehe
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In my opinion the 77 Corvette is hardly what I would call a "high water mark" in the history of Corvette. You can plop a big engine in anything and call it a great car if going fast in a straight line is all you want. I have a 61 and a 65 and those are great Corvettes. However my C6 is a terrific all around Vette that takes a back seat to none of them. I've owned big blocks and a lot of other fast cars over the years, but this new Vette is a real driver's car that really gets up and goes and will handle a road course a hell of alot better than a 77.
...for sure your C6 will handle better then a '77 C3 (even if mine has all the updates to enjoy winding roads...), but usually we buy sports cars for what they can give us, apart from taking us from point A to point C, and PERSONALLY the feeling a C6 gives me remembers me when i had the mitsubishi GTO twin turbo, warm, safe and very pampering (that's why my wife loved it )
it needs only that they take away the ash tray and then we'll have a totally politically correct cruiser
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Originally Posted by panic

today i went to see the new C6 and i had a great disillusion...
the car is too borguoise, too soft, too pampering, too similar to the mitsubishi gto twin turbo inside and out...too many electronic devises, a truck exhaust (that's why borla/corsa/etc make a lot of money... )...
before you kill me streight away pls let me say i'm a corvette driver, but i like to drive real corvettes, i have a raw and b...a...lightened '77 C3 with a sweet 406ci 575hp stroker, very politically INcorrect, hard and with no luxury devises for soft a..s :o ......
i cant understand why GM did not launch a basic C6 with no power sistems, no luxury complements, and possibly with the Z engine ..it would be lighter, faster and cheaper!!

well, give me now the eye bandage and pls send the body to my mom
See if you can get a fire-recovery RED-TAG c6, drop a 427 with a drive shaft and M12 TRANNY, then put some body on it . Slap on a big brake kit and you'll be ready to go!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion; I've got everything but XM; love the heated seats alreday. The powertop is just too funny - can also block headlights at dusk when at the stoplight - just pop it up about three inches.

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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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> borguoise
Were you attempting to spell bourgeoisie?
Definition: In Marxist theory, the social group opposed to the proletariat in the class struggle

Typical f***ing European intellectual.

The car is American, and it doesn't give a crap about Marxist theory, or the proletariat.

Sorry, I guess I killed you. Chi se ne fot.

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no, john, you didnt kill me ... infact i didnt mention marx theory, which seems to be alive only where it can be used to shut up opponents it was only a more polite way to mean fat and soft as...holes
i liked the 'chi se ne fott'!!!!!
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The GTO is about the same car if you dont want to super-size the order.
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Z51, 6 speed and Bullets IMHO make this a very exciting car to drive, even though it remains comfortable.
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Originally Posted by panic
i cant understand why GM did not launch a basic C6 with no power sistems, no luxury complements, and possibly with the Z engine ..it would be lighter, faster and cheaper!!
'cause for every one person that wants it this way, there are 100 that want amenities. And like others said, with a screwdriver and some time, you can rid yourself all much of those amenities if you so desire

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Originally Posted by panic

today i went to see the new C6 and i had a great disillusion...
the car is too borguoise, too soft, too pampering, too similar to the mitsubishi gto twin turbo inside and out...too many electronic devises, a truck exhaust (that's why borla/corsa/etc make a lot of money... )...
before you kill me streight away pls let me say i'm a corvette driver, but i like to drive real corvettes, i have a raw and b...a...lightened '77 C3 with a sweet 406ci 575hp stroker, very politically INcorrect, hard and with no luxury devises for soft a..s :o ......
i cant understand why GM did not launch a basic C6 with no power sistems, no luxury complements, and possibly with the Z engine ..it would be lighter, faster and cheaper!!

well, give me now the eye bandage and pls send the body to my mom
What a bogus post. You have a lightened '77 C3? Well, you must have lightened it a whole lot, as those things weighed about 3600 pounds stock, or about 400 pounds more than a 2LT C6. As for Corsa being a "truck exhaust", you're just talking smack. You're driving a car that was engineered to do 16sec quarter miles, and you stuck in a better engine, ripped out some insulation and trim, and you think you've got a sports car. You don't need an eye bandage, based on your spelling and grammar and your half-witted observations I'd say you simply need an education.
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the comparo you are making is more of a muscle car to modern near-exotic. apples and oranges all the way dood. get in an AMG SL65 and tell me that thing isnt a sports car because it has wood grain interior, plush heated leather seats, and dual zone climate control. sure you're right
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i cant understand why GM did not launch a basic C6 with no power sistems, no luxury complements, and possibly with the Z engine ..it would be lighter, faster and cheaper!!
That is my C6! I have an 05 1SX Z51 MN6 with no options I completed the picture with an LPE 403 delivering 501rwhp.

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