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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 04:24 AM
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What a bogus post. You have a lightened '77 C3? Well, you must have lightened it a whole lot, as those things weighed about 3600 pounds stock, or about 400 pounds more than a 2LT C6. As for Corsa being a "truck exhaust", you're just talking smack. You're driving a car that was engineered to do 16sec quarter miles, and you stuck in a better engine, ripped out some insulation and trim, and you think you've got a sports car. You don't need an eye bandage, based on your spelling and grammar and your half-witted observations I'd say you simply need an education.
i'm pretty sure i (beeing an italian) spell and grammar english better then you spell and grammar the italian language so, who needs then more education? ..and anyway education is not only how you spell and grammar languages but also how you reply properly to a post and yours only shows you spell properly but are far away from beeing educated at all

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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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i'm pretty sure i (beeing an italian) spell and grammar english better then you spell and grammar the italian language so, who needs then more education? ..and anyway education is not only how you spell and grammar languages but also how you reply properly to a post and yours only shows you spell properly but are far away from beeing educated at all
Oh really? Well, how about telling us how you lightened a 3600+ pound C3 and got a real sports car out of it?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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today i went to see the new C6 and i had a great disillusion...
the car is too borguoise, too soft, too pampering, too similar to the mitsubishi gto twin turbo inside and out...too many electronic devises, a truck exhaust (that's why borla/corsa/etc make a lot of money... )...
before you kill me streight away pls let me say i'm a corvette driver, but i like to drive real corvettes, i have a raw and b...a...lightened '77 C3 with a sweet 406ci 575hp stroker, very politically INcorrect, hard and with no luxury devises for soft a..s :o ......
i cant understand why GM did not launch a basic C6 with no power sistems, no luxury complements, and possibly with the Z engine ..it would be lighter, faster and cheaper!!

well, give me now the eye bandage and pls send the body to my mom
Look at your post, you're stepping all over yourself with your comment about each car, and btw, your supposed '77 is modified, without that motor, my 1996 Jetta every day driver is as quick. The only "stroker" I see is you! I suggest you post some pics of your farm rod Guido, impress us thaaaaaat's right.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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Oh really? Well, how about telling us how you lightened a 3600+ pound C3 and got a real sports car out of it?
Mr Irv, a well cultured man like you won't surely need to be explained how a C3 can be lightened and converted into a sport car by somebody who does not even spell properly english, but for respect to the other forum members i'll find a good dictionary and will try my best:

1) powerplant:
new 406ci 575hp (at 6.200 rpm, 552 ft/lbs trq reading at 4.400 rpm),engine by American Speed, new lakewood HD motor mounts, McLeod 11'' pressure pl/McLeod HD clutch disc, realease bearings and 11'' steel flyw. 3.73 final ratio, 4 speeds T-10 kept but rebuilt.

suspensions: front lightweight transverse springs, rear composite springs with longer 10'' bolts, HD front/rear sway bars, QA1 adjustable all round shocks, lightweight minilites wheels.

braking: all round willwood lightweight rotors/calipers by precision brakes co.

lightening:
got rid of:

A/C
heater
luxury and heavy f..a...seats for lightweight race ones
front and rear steel defenses (aluminium lightweight custom made supports instead)

new suspensions, engine and its new side pipes and brakes kit of course also substancially contribute...

for sure i forgot a few other things.

quartermile timing: i dont know, never run on a circuit with offcial timing but what i know is that i can beat more then half of the sport motorcicles (that can run the quarter currently in around 11 sec) on a crosslight in ilegal street runs, no car yet beat me where i live, even if i admit there are no great challengers, apart some fat a..es porsches 911's.

take care Sir
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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Look at your post, you're stepping all over yourself with your comment about each car, and btw, your supposed '77 is modified, without that motor, my 1996 Jetta every day driver is as quick. The only "stroker" I see is you! I suggest you post some pics of your farm rod Guido, impress us thaaaaaat's right.
you're wrong, the '96 jetta would be quicker....
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The C6 is my eighth Corvette, and by far is the best of the bunch. I had a C3 ('79 L-82 4-SPEED), and no matter what you may have done to it, it will never be a world class sports car....but the C6 certainly is.

It doesn't really matter though...it all depends on what makes you happy. I don't have a problem with luxury amenities if my car
out-handles and out-performs just about everything else on the road....they're icing on the cake. This "minimalist sports car" ideal is as old and dated as the C3. Get over it.

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Mr Irv, a well cultured man like you won't surely need to be explained how a C3 can be lightened and converted into a sport car by somebody who does not even spell properly english, but for respect to the other forum members i'll find a good dictionary and will try my best:

1) powerplant:
new 406ci 575hp (at 6.200 rpm, 552 ft/lbs trq reading at 4.400 rpm),engine by American Speed, new lakewood HD motor mounts, McLeod 11'' pressure pl/McLeod HD clutch disc, realease bearings and 11'' steel flyw. 3.73 final ratio, 4 speeds T-10 kept but rebuilt.

suspensions: front lightweight transverse springs, rear composite springs with longer 10'' bolts, HD front/rear sway bars, QA1 adjustable all round shocks, lightweight minilites wheels.

braking: all round willwood lightweight rotors/calipers by precision brakes co.

lightening:
got rid of:

A/C
heater
luxury and heavy f..a...seats for lightweight race ones
front and rear steel defenses (aluminium lightweight custom made supports instead)

new suspensions, engine and its new side pipes and brakes kit of course also substancially contribute...

for sure i forgot a few other things.

quartermile timing: i dont know, never run on a circuit with offcial timing but what i know is that i can beat more then half of the sport motorcicles (that can run the quarter currently in around 11 sec) on a crosslight in ilegal street runs, no car yet beat me where i live, even if i admit there are no great challengers, apart some fat a..es porsches 911's.

take care Sir
Well, well, how about that! A well-written, articulate, informative post without insinuations, value judgments, silly assertions, or subliminal insults. Thank you!

My off-the-cuff guess would be that you knocked 200-250 pounds off of the C3, assuming a cast-iron block engine and aluminum heads. (True?) Assuming the 575hp is about equal in accuracy to GM's ratings you're running about 3400/575 = 5.9 lbs/hp, so assuming you can get traction I think low-11's, perhaps high even 10's are achievable. I hope you have roll cage... it sounds like you could clean the clock of new Z06.

Now, all of that aside, are you really asking GM to build something that interests you? With no heater, no AC, no radio, and racing seats? You think Porsches are fat-*** and C6's are bourgeoisie? Would you lump a Viper into one of those categories too? Personally, I couldn't live with a Viper on a daily basis, and I lust after most Porsches. I had a '97 Cobra I built up with a full-on Griggs Racing suspension (damn that was nice), seats, other mods galore, and it was just too brutal to enjoy so after six years I sold it. A car like yours might be nice on the track, but on the street? I think a C6 is just right.
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you're wrong, the '96 jetta would be quicker....

you're killin' me!
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by panic
Mr Irv, a well cultured man like you won't surely need to be explained how a C3 can be lightened and converted into a sport car by somebody who does not even spell properly english, but for respect to the other forum members i'll find a good dictionary and will try my best:

1) powerplant:
new 406ci 575hp (at 6.200 rpm, 552 ft/lbs trq reading at 4.400 rpm),engine by American Speed, new lakewood HD motor mounts, McLeod 11'' pressure pl/McLeod HD clutch disc, realease bearings and 11'' steel flyw. 3.73 final ratio, 4 speeds T-10 kept but rebuilt.

suspensions: front lightweight transverse springs, rear composite springs with longer 10'' bolts, HD front/rear sway bars, QA1 adjustable all round shocks, lightweight minilites wheels.


braking: all round willwood lightweight rotors/calipers by precision brakes co.

lightening:
got rid of:

A/C
heater
luxury and heavy f..a...seats for lightweight race ones
front and rear steel defenses (aluminium lightweight custom made supports instead)

new suspensions, engine and its new side pipes and brakes kit of course also substancially contribute...

for sure i forgot a few other things.

quartermile timing: i dont know, never run on a circuit with offcial timing but what i know is that i can beat more then half of the sport motorcicles (that can run the quarter currently in around 11 sec) on a crosslight in ilegal street runs, no car yet beat me where i live, even if i admit there are no great challengers, apart some fat a..es porsches 911's.

take care Sir
So, was it a "real Corvette" before these mods?
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So, was it a "real Corvette" before these mods?
it was a real >>>>>
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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it was a real >>>>>
Really? What was the HP of that RIP ROARIN' STOCK 1977?
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