Well for starters let me tell you how. I have an 05 BONE STOCK C6 Z51 6spd. I dropped the clutch at 1100-1200 RPM (that's no joke it was really that low). I just don't understand how this could have happened on street tires (the Goodyear Runflats) that were not heated up.

My question: I am assuming that this is covered under warranty, regardless if this was done at a track or not. Can anyone give me definative answers on this one?? My diff threw pieces everywhere and even pushed the rear of the housing into the back of the mufflers.

Also, how does a bone stock car on the tires it was sold with blow a differential at 1100-1200 RPM????????????????????????????? I am floored by that! I feel really dumb about this and has anyone else had this problem? Any feedback is appreciated. I will have to get it towed to the dealer tomorrow or Monday. So much for my daily driver.

Oh also the car has only 9300 miles on it.

 

DUDE, YOURE COVERED UNDER WARRANTY. i CANT EVEN BELEIVE YOU WOULD JUST ASSUME YOUR NOT.

Unless of course this didnt happen or you donthave the car......

 

I wish to God that it had not happened. Don't think that I am not banging my head on this one.

 

If they find out that this happened at the track it is NOT covered.

 

IF this did happen track (not admitting anything), why wouldn't it be covered?? You never sign anything saying your car will not be revved past 1100-1200 RPM. Lets face it we do that almost everyday.

1. How would they know if it was at a track? (mine was not)
2. Why would this void the warranty??
3. Who makes the rule that you can't operate a sports car in a sports car like manner or environment?

Not being hostile, I would just really like as much info as people have on this subject.

 

Your car is a 2005 right?

Go out to it, and retrieve your warranty from the glovebox. 2005 Warranty and Owner Assistance Information. Turn to page 7.

Damage Due to Accident, Misuse, or Alteration

Damage caused as the result of any of the following is not covered.

* Collision, fire, theft, freezing, vandalism, riot, explosion, or objects striking the vehicle.

*Misuse of the vehicle such as driving over curbs, overloading, racing, or other competition. Proper use is discussed in the owners manual.

.........

If you have a GMPP, check it as well:

WHAT THIS AGREEMENT DOES NOT COVER:

This agreement is not responsible for a FAILURE or Claim:

A. Caused by misuse, alteration, or lack of maintenance required by the Maintainence Schedule for YOUR VEHICLE, as detailed in YOUR owners manual.

B. Caused by collision, fire, theft, freezing, vandalism, riot, explosion, lightning, earthquake, windstorm, hail, water, or animal.

C. Caused by racing or other competition;

No manufacturer's warranty is likely to cover damage you incur on a race track or drag strip.

Hope that clears it up.

You could make the mistake of actually telling them thinking that: "DUDE, YOURE COVERED UNDER WARRANTY. i CANT EVEN BELEIVE YOU WOULD JUST ASSUME YOUR NOT."

Signs of what could be considered abuse could be but are not limited to, rubber in the rear fender wells, traces of windshield and passenger side track markings, track paraphenalia left in plain view inside the car, witnesses. For example, if you have it towed to the dealership, someone could casually mention that "oh, I picked him up from thus and so raceway, I tow out there every Saturday and this time a year business is good. I thought these things were built to be raced, but apparently not." or something similar.

Because they said so. It is theirs to give and they set the terms and conditions.

GM. The warranty is theirs.

 

That it does. Thanks for the info.

 

BTW, ask the Suburu and Ford SVT Cobra guys about warranty coverage from damage incurred at the track and they will tell you stories which will make your hair stand on end.

If the Ford dealership deems that your rear tires are showing excessive and disproportionate wear in comparison to the front tires, your SVT Cobra might be denied warranty coverage.

The Subaru guys and the Mitsubishi guys can tell you all you want to know about tracking and warranties.

http://www.autocrossforum.com/forums...?showtopic=594

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/archive...0/t-61087.html

"MICHAEL MILLER DIDN’T know it, but the drivetrain warranty was already void on his son’s new Mitsubishi Evolution before he even took the car in for service to his local Salt Lake City dealership.

Unbeknownst to Miller, Mitsubishi placed a lifetime warranty restriction on the engine, clutch and transmission in Miller’s Evo because the company discovered the car had been entered in a Sports Car Club of America autocross event a month earlier.

Miller said that about two weeks after entering the Evo in the SCCA event he heard bad noises emanating from the engine bay and took the car in for service. “The dealer performed a vehicle service inquiry and I was told there was a restriction placed on my file,” Miller says.

Bottom line: After entering the car in one SCCA event, Miller was left with a $7,000 bill for repairing two failed connecting rods and a blown turbocharger.

“Problems related to racing or modifications are not covered under warranty,” says Mitsubishi spokeswoman Janis Little. “Autocrossing, or timed competition, is classified under the warranty terms as racing. It’s difficult for us to know if you’re out there racing, but if there is evidence of racing damage, we’re going to look into it and you may have warranty restrictions placed on certain parts of the vehicle.”

Most owners recognize that part of the cost of going racing means footing the repair bill when something goes awry. Manufacturer warranties and owner manuals typically specify that harsh use, abuse, non-factory modifications and racing can void all or part of a vehicle’s warranty intended to cover defects in materials or workmanship. Miller’s case, however, raises questions about how the company discovered his autocross involvement.

The buzz in online communities suggests Mitsubishi is cross matching names from its owner database with SCCA autocross results. Those who turn up on both lists are notified that their vehicle warranties are void, the online chatter claims. Miller says Mitsubishi wasn’t clear on how it learned of his autocrossing.....

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=2588

"One thing we should note about the warranty: Subaru says it "excludes damage resulting from participation in competition or racing events." That's a reasonable clause, but the WRX comes with a free, yearlong membership to the Sports Car Club of America (SCCA). Among the numerous events the SCCA hosts is the Solo II autocross in which unmodified street cars run through a low-speed cone course (max speed is less than 60 mph). These courses are usually set up in parking lots, so there's nothing to run into and the cars go through one at a time.

Isn't it safe to assume that a few WRX owners will appreciate the SCCA membership and try out a relatively harmless autocross? Probably. If you're one of them, be wary, as we've heard stories of dealers not honoring warranties if the car has been autocrossed."

 

Not sure where THIS is coming from but in DrivnXcitment's defense he NEVER actually said that he was sure that he WASN'T covered, just merely checking/verifying to see that he was/should be.
It has now also been determined that if it is proven that he was on a track/racing then he could be denied coverage of course.

 

Luckily for me my rear tires are in great shape as far as the Goodyear's go (they don't last very long anyway), there are no track markings anywhere on the car, and no paraphenalia in the car. Also the car is sitting at my house right now had it towed home. I must find a way to get it towed to the dealership soon. No rubber in the wheel wells either.

Not saying mine was at a track but this should prove my warranty case to them.

 

You should be OK then.

Not to hijack your thread, but when you think about it, Mitsubishi, Subaru was really brazen.

1. Give you a free one year membership to the SCCA when you buy a new WRX or Evo.

2. Wait for you to register and enter one of the events that the organization, which they gave you a free membership to, sponsors.

3. Periodically check the racing results from all over, in events sponsored by the organization which they gave you a free membership to.

4. When your name shows up in the standings of an event or events sponsored by the organization which they gave you a free membership to, then turn around and immediately void your warranty.

Damn. I would at least want a kiss first.

..

 

I guess I need street tires, track tires, and warranty tires. Thats a lot of wheels.

 

Sorry to hear that.

The 2005 rears were known to be weaker than the 2006, I am surprised we don't hear more of this happening.

Just have it towed to the dealer, have it fixed under warranty, and don't worry about it.

Of course they won't fix it to 2006 specs, so hopefully this will not be a repeating problem.

Howard

 

 

Howard,

This is the first time I have heard about this. I have a 2005. Not doubting you, but would like to know more. Have a link?

 

This breakage should be covered under warranty. So relax.

Take the time to read through the thread below and educate yourself on part breakage that GM is well aware of:

Rear End Issue

There are good pictures of the broken parts in that thread.

I would suggest you carefully clean any and all track rubber out of your wheel wells to avoid an issue if/when a zone rep comes to look at the car.

I suspect the right CV joint housing cover broke (a bunch of owners have shared your experience) and did collateral damage when it went. Take a look at the right rear brake line. It may have been severed too, which bolster the concern of a related safety issue.

Please keep us informed of your repair experience.

Ranger

 

All of you have been an amazing help. Thank you for taking the time to post on this one. Obviously this is a big concern for me. Being 28 with a new house and soon to be married, I can't afford to replace a rear end on the car. The only reason I could afford this one is becuase I wrecked my 99 Trans Am and got one heck of an insurance check out of the deal. That, and I have spent the last 24 of 33 months deployed or away from home on exercises.

Again thanks to all for the quick responses.


Almost forgot. It was the entire bottom of the diff that blew out, most of it coming from the DRIVERS side CV joint area.

 

Just call GM road side assistance and tell them to come get the car and tow it to the dealer!!! If you have a preferred dealer, (I have one that does good warranty work) request they take it there.

BC

 

Wass -

Everyone made a bid deal out of it when the 2006 came out, how they reinforced the rear.

Do a search or hopefully someone will chime in.

Howard

 

I have no certain knowledge to this effect but I believe that your car's computer has a clock and a calendar. It also is aware of engine RPM's, throttle position, road speed, changes in road speed, etc. I am not sure what it's memory capacity is but a service writer from my dealer told me that they had used the car computer to help determine the circumstances of damage to a C5 Z06 and after discussing the situation with the owner, they denied warranty coverage and he didn't protest. If you have OnStar, I wonder if it can fix your location at the time of the damage.

As I said, I don't really know about this but it is something to consider before you visit the dealer. It may help you make your case that you sustained the damage at 1200 RPM's and, if you have OnStar, you might even be able to show where it occured.

Good luck, either way!