muffler question
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muffler question
was wonderin the deal on the flowmasters part#17416 does this include both and magnaflows part #15884. some members are saying the mags. are just about as cheap but i cant seem to find them anywhere any ideas? also how come so cheap when all others start at $1000 thanks,bob
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Originally Posted by bobartstar
was wonderin the deal on the flowmasters part#17416 does this include both and magnaflows part #15884. some members are saying the mags. are just about as cheap but i cant seem to find them anywhere any ideas? also how come so cheap when all others start at $1000 thanks,bob
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Originally Posted by StrayDog
Yes..... Flowmaster # 17416 just delivered for my 07 ...includes All >> 2 mufflers, 2 ex pipes , 2 clamps & hardware........ price approx $360 delivered.......... I previously installed flowmasters on my 1990 Convertable ............ very satisfied...... the flowmasters have a nice deep burble at idle & not loud...just the sound a Corvette should have in the first place from the factory...........price & quality excellant as Flowmaster has not "corvetteisied" there prices .....like other manufacturers ..meaning if the word Corvette is on the part the price is trippled... The Dog
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Originally Posted by bobartstar
also how come so cheap when all others start at $1000 thanks,bob
But a while ago I bought a cat-back for my Trans Am. SLP, all SS, beautiful quality, and sound that me AND all my friends drooled over. $300.00 for the whole system, and there was way more metal, welds and parts in that system than there is in the Corsa Muff's.
If I had had more time to handle my muffler situation, I guarentee you that I would have bought some type of "universal" SS muffler, aquired stock looking tips some how, fabricated the package myself and saved about $700. But I got myself in a pinch and needed something right away. So I bent over, lubed up and bought the Corsa's.
In short, there isn't anything wrong with some of the cheap (price) mufflers just because they're a cheap price.
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I ordered Magnaflow 14336 and 35163 single tips from Performance Peddler for about $300. Had them welded on for $120. Sounds great, looks great. Price is fair.
BTW, I prefer single tips. I only have two exhaust pipes and don't need 4 tips for 2 pipes. YMMV.
BTW, I prefer single tips. I only have two exhaust pipes and don't need 4 tips for 2 pipes. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by Whiterock1
Isn't that because they are universal fit mufflers rather than custom made for the Corvette? Helps keep the cost down of manufacture and also makes up for lack of Corvette "tax" by wider potential customer base. That being said, Flows sound great on a Mustang so no doubt would on a Vette, also. I love my Bullets and don't mind the $770 price. Not knocking Flowmaster, just saying what is best for me.
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Originally Posted by StrayDog
Yes..... Flowmaster # 17416 just delivered for my 07 ...includes All >> 2 mufflers, 2 ex pipes , 2 clamps & hardware........ price approx $360 delivered.......... I previously installed flowmasters on my 1990 Convertable ............ very satisfied...... the flowmasters have a nice deep burble at idle & not loud...just the sound a Corvette should have in the first place from the factory...........price & quality excellant as Flowmaster has not "corvetteisied" there prices .....like other manufacturers ..meaning if the word Corvette is on the part the price is trippled... The Dog
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Originally Posted by bradb
I ordered Magnaflow 14336 and 35163 single tips from Performance Peddler for about $300. Had them welded on for $120. Sounds great, looks great. Price is fair.
BTW, I prefer single tips. I only have two exhaust pipes and don't need 4 tips for 2 pipes. YMMV.
BTW, I prefer single tips. I only have two exhaust pipes and don't need 4 tips for 2 pipes. YMMV.
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I am not saying this justifies the cost difference but the Corsa's, B&B's etc all use stainless steel tubing and mufflers. The flowmasters are aluminized. Personally I went with Magnaflow 14336 polished stainless steel mufflers. They cost me 125 for a new pair off of ebay and 100 bucks to have installled at the local muffler shop. They do have minor drone around 1800 rpm so might not be good for an automatic.
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Originally Posted by achilds
I am not saying this justifies the cost difference but the Corsa's, B&B's etc all use stainless steel tubing and mufflers. The flowmasters are aluminized. Personally I went with Magnaflow 14336 polished stainless steel mufflers. They cost me 125 for a new pair off of ebay and 100 bucks to have installled at the local muffler shop. They do have minor drone around 1800 rpm so might not be good for an automatic.
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Originally Posted by haljensen
Good point! Aluminum coated mild steel vs stainless. The coated mild steel is cheaper to buy,easier to fabricate and cheaper and easier to weld.
The $1k muffs are a rip, simple as that.
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Originally Posted by StrayDog
Reply >> No << Not a universal muffler , a specific Corvette kit.. American thunder # 17416 is custom for a C6 & mounts on stock hangers.....And are complete w/all you need to mount.....beautiful 3 1/2" welded stainless tips ....go to flowmaster website see illistration............. listed for $554 on there site but discounted, by vendors I paid $ 362 . free shipping / no handling fee & no sales tax ..The Dog
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
That's true, but there are PLENTY of polished, beautifully fabricated, stainless steel mufflers that are NOT $1000.00. Not even $200. See my post above about the fully stainless, cat back for a Trans Am for $300.00.
The $1k muffs are a rip, simple as that.
The $1k muffs are a rip, simple as that.
The SLP Loudmouth on my 2000 WS6 Trans Am was 304 stainless, but not polished except for the tips, and they not very well. I spent a long time polishing them to get a mirror finish, and they looked nice--not as good as Cr tips, but still very nice. The sound was LOUD, but I liked it. The resonators in the Bullets are FAR better at modulating the sound, however. Frequency and amplitude changes with revs. Much less frequency changes with the Loudmouth. Best exhaust sound I've heard since back in the day... Are they worth $780? Hell no, but you pays your money and makes your choices. I have no regrets at all. The Flows are not as well made as B&B, and Al coated mild steel will not last as long as 304 SS in bad weather conditions, ie, salt. If that is not an issue, Flowmaster makes good sounding exhausts for Mustangs and probably the Vette package will too. Still and all, I made the right choice for me. The Bullets were beautifully finished all over, and I absolutely love the sound.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
That's true, but there are PLENTY of polished, beautifully fabricated, stainless steel mufflers that are NOT $1000.00. Not even $200. See my post above about the fully stainless, cat back for a Trans Am for $300.00.
The $1k muffs are a rip, simple as that.
The $1k muffs are a rip, simple as that.
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Personal opinion? Stay away from Flowmasters... They do not do anything for horsepower, in fact I've seen them hurt horsepower many times. Magnaflow is one of the best kept secrets in the exhaust world. Excellent quality construction, and the sound is really nice. They give you a nice deep tone, without all the annoying noise you get from some of the more expensive brands. However for all out performance, you're not going to be able to beat Borla or Corsa. They're loud, but they flow.
Magnaflow is by far the most popular exhaust we sell. Borla comes in second.
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Magnaflow is by far the most popular exhaust we sell. Borla comes in second.
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Originally Posted by Whiterock1
Then that's a good deal, I would say. How do they sound? Let us know.
I listened to flowmaster on a 06 at a crisin & like idle burble...the owner .."nice sound when cruisin"...my other vette is a 66 BB with factory side exhaust ......beatifuly loud ,but much to much for my C6.....& Cruisin ( My taste & 2 cents ) .......... In reply to some comments not looking for H/P incrise just a nice sound ...... & not willing to part with 1K , for mufflers............The Dog
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Originally Posted by bobartstar
...flowmasters ...how come so cheap when all others start at $1000 thanks,bob
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Originally Posted by StrayDog
Reply >> No << Not a universal muffler , a specific Corvette kit.. American thunder # 17416 is custom for a C6 & mounts on stock hangers.....And are complete w/all you need to mount.....beautiful 3 1/2" welded stainless tips ....go to flowmaster website see illistration............. listed for $554 on there site but discounted, by vendors I paid $ 362 . free shipping / no handling fee & no sales tax ..The Dog
