LOL, no catback is that loud, there are just alot of sensitive ears around here.

People who complain about catback only cars make me giggle.

 

For all those who like drone , I think 06.z51.mont red.vert has the best idea about introducing you all to his mother-in-law!

 

I am just repeating what the man said.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...00&postcount=5

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...5&postcount=37

" No matter what I did I always ended up with "ringing" in my ears. This time when I stopped by a buddies house for coffee and BS not only were my ears ringing, I actually had some pain and hearing loss. It's the same sensation you get after a loud rock concert."

I believe him enough not to want to find out and my own peril.

I don't think that some of you know how serious hearing loss, even "minor" hearing loss, is.

 

So you go around making negative comments on something that you haven't experienced yourself. Makes alot of sense.

I'd say that member had problems before even putting those on his car.

 

Yes, but I've been in the cars with other systems and can tell you, it's not bad at all.

So does that make me automatically right??

Sounds is subjective, you really need to experience it for yourself before putting it down based on other peoples opinions. You're passing on info and may be influencing others' opinions, and you've never even heard it.

Go listen for yourself and then see if your opinion is the same.

 

I have B&B Bullets on my car and I really like them, but people talk like they are the loudest exhaust in the world.

 

Sometimes. Like I say, I have never actually had the "experience" of abusing drugs, beating my wife, abusing my kids, banging my neighbor's wife, or beating the crap out of my boss.

But from what I hear, and believe all of those are all detrimental to my well being, and as such I shall avoid "experiencing" them, and will advise others to do so as well.

Likewise with the Bullets. If someone here, who has no reason to lie, says that they suffered pain and hearing loss after using them, I do not see how that can be a good thing. Perhaps you would be good enough to tell us how it is.

I can think of numerous instances where it makes a lot of sense. Half the stuff I would advise against, bank robbery, murder, incest, rape, possibly damaging your ears or eyesight, and on down the line, I have never personally experienced, but would still advise against.

Well if he didn't, he sure did for a time afterwards now didn't he?

" No matter what I did I always ended up with "ringing" in my ears. This time when I stopped by a buddies house for coffee and BS not only were my ears ringing, I actually had some pain and hearing loss. It's the same sensation you get after a loud rock concert."



And had he left those Bullets on do you think that his ears would have gotten better?

 

No thanks. I don't want to lose my hearing. Listening to that drone for a long enough period, day in and day out, several minutes at a time, can't be good for your ears.


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1321799

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1106344

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1130429

 

The point I am trying to make, and which is obviously over your head, is that you are passing along hearsay like it's some you know. The sad thing is someone who is trying to decide on a system might see your crap and think you actually know what you are talking about.

You can make all the half assed comaprisons that you want, but bottom line is you are basing your comments on someone elses experiences. I don't know how anyone in his right mind can compare rape and murder to listening to an exhaust system. Do you actually read what you write?

So what are you going to do now, run around telling everyone that bullets make you deaf??

 

What? .. :

 

Wow...how did you make a leap from talking about an exhaust system to drug abuse, child abuse and spouse abuse ?

So according to your very flawed logic we should shut down every roller coaster in the country because a few people with a pre-existing health condition died while riding them. That makes perfect sense...NOT.

Maybe the person who had the problem needs to have a physical to see if there is another issue that could have been aggravated by a certain sound frequency. It's no different than some people who get instant migraines when exposed to certain stimuli such as cologne or perfume. To run around like a freak telling everyone that Drakkar or Chanel is causing health problems is a little over the top because a very small group of people had a reaction to it.

I had a friend who knew a guy who's cousins, sister-in-laws, co-workers daughter got food poisoning from eating a bowl of chili at a national food chain. So we all better not eat there because it has to be true

 

In my area they closed Chi Chi's down after a few people wound up needing liver transplants after eating there. I believe that Chi Chi's resturants are now history.

But no, the point of my post was that you cannot make the blanket statement that one can "only" offer good advice from "personal experience". There are numerous instances in this life where you can offer good advice on what to avoid solely upon reliable reports, and your observations of what happened to others. It does not necessarily have to happen to you or be personally experienced by you.

I certainly advised everyone I knew against eating at Chi Chi's while people were getting sick, even though I personally did not eat there and didn't get sick.

You also should realize that a portion of my post I was ribbing my adversary. You see post #50?

Here, let me show you how it works so you can "experience" it. Watch closely. You ready????? Here goes:

So you're saying that before you have Bullets installed that you should have a physical to determine if you are sensitive to "certain sound frequencies"?

You saying he should have "consulted his doctor" before he placed his order for those Bullets and because he did not, that his ear pain was his own fault?

So you saying that one should need a prescription before they can buy this exhaust?

: Did you see it??

 

i don't LOVE the drone... but i LOVE my bullets..

the way i handle the drone is crack the window open...easy as that..

i never drive the Vette in the rain, so when i'm driving.. the window is usually cracked open a bit..

problem solved!

 

I used to eat at Chi-chi's all the time, the liver is still good as new. As for the liver transplants (and you forgot to mention the deaths involved) which were caused by employees with hepatitis at one chi-chi's . That didn't mean the entire chain was bad. It was a Chi-chi's in the Pittsburgh area, not the entire country. Chi-chi's was responsible because they and the employees didn't follow certain health precautions such as washing their hands after using the restroom. So according to your logic we should

Never eat at a restaurant unless every employee is checked weekly for Hepatitis.

Have a mobil Hepatitis test kit with us to check the food we're about to eat first.

Checked with the board of health first before eating at a national food chain.

The only thing I feel I'm experiencing from you is pure ignorance. I know it's hard for you to comprehend with your thought process, but if I was the person experiencing "hearing loss and pain" from a simple card ride, I would follow up with a doctor. I believe the person you were quoting was 54 years of age so it could have been caused by any one of numerous health issues. The sound of the exhaust just aggravated the condition. I could type it slower so you can try to follow along if you'd like.

I as well as thousands of people have ridden in corvettes with B&B's on them and never have experienced these symptoms reported by one person who I'm accepting is telling the truth. So chances are the problem is with that one person and not the majority who haven't had any sort of hearing issues.

But do yourself a favor, stick with your stock exhaust and start your national crusade against B&B's. Let us know how you make out in 6 months...

 

Wow! Some of you guys are really insensitive. I was at 21st Century today and got to hear a few Vettes with these exhaust systems you guys speak about. These systems are WAY TOO loud and TOO RAW. I like a bit of throaty meanness to the exhaust but there has to be some refinement as well. This can be done at civilized sound pressure levels.
I don't need a muffler system that screams "HEY, LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK……..AT………ME! I’M…….ALIVE! I…..NEED………..ATTENTION!"

 

 

I made out against you just fine and that was all that really mattered.

And as for Chi Chi's it was not traced back to the employees, it was traced back to the supplier of the green onions they were using in their salsa which came from a mexican supplier. There were outbreaks in North Carolina and Georgia.

Well heres a news flash for you. I am a doctor. I usually do not make that public on this board but I have in the past on a couple of occasions. Check my past posts if you like. But the reason why I don't is because my profession, what I do for a living is typically not relevant to a discussion board about cars. One of my long time patients actually became ill in the Chi Chi's incident which is why it was at the back of my mind when I posted that.

Now let me type this slowly for you so that you can understand it.

If this guys ears were fine before he took that ride in that excessively loud car, and then he started having problems, to include ringing, pain and partial deafness, then and only then, what do you think was the most likely cause of his ear symptoms???? Where would you look first? What would you d first?

Ah, remove the Bullets. So he did that. And has no more symptoms. What do you think the source of his ear problems was as described from the history he gave?

If your eyes were fine before you started using a certain contact lense solution and suddenly, just hours after using it, you start to have pain, tearing and vision loss, then and only then, what is the most likely source of your eye problems?

 

Do you ever notice when people talk about health issues you always have one internet bandit claim they're a doctor. I'm sure if we were talking about a military topic you would be an ex seal or special forces commando...

I'm not going to search through your 6000+ posts to find where you "CLAIM" to be a doctor. I am curious though, just by looking at the time stamps on your posts, how do you find time to see patients? It appears that you're posting all day long, every day. Doesn't leave much time to say "open wide" now does it....

So explain this to me Dr. Doolittle. Did you see this mans audiograms before making your diagnosis?
Did you notice his statement of "Guess 22 years in the USAF has taken a toll on my hearing. But that's life and we move on."

How do you explain the thousands of other satisfied customers who aren't claiming a hearing loss, pain or ringing? Is this an isolated incident or are you just bashing on B&B's?

Again, better contact the media as we don't want a wide scale epidemic of hearing loss in our country because of a poor design flaw. Better type quick though, your 10:00 appointment is in your waiting room....

 

This is pretty entertaining. ps: I'm guessing he's probably a retired doctor, but thats just a guess.

 

I have over 3000 watts of stereo in my car, I can't even hear my exhaust, I'm in the clear.