Exhaust Crazy
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Exhaust Crazy
Going crazy looking to pick out the right exhaust up grade for my C6 2006 Vette. Any one have a couple of picutures and comments on the GM performance system. I heard its made by Borla, any thruth to that? B&B Route 66 seems to look more like the stock system but comments seem pro and con on sound quailty. Doing it for the sound, I agree 20 -30 Hoursepower is meaningless on a 400 HP Vette.
Thanks,
Thanks,
Last edited by LAXTPS; Oct 1, 2006 at 09:07 AM.
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LAXTPS -
If you get 5-10hp out of a catback you should jump for joy, usually you gain nothing, but it sounds better.
I currently have the
Magnaflow #15884 catback on my 2005 C6 automatic
and the
Corsa Sports on my 2006 C6 manual.
I had B&B Bullets on the 2005, but they were a little tough to live with on a daily driver.
I bought the Corsa Sports used for $400 and the Magnaflows used for $500, the Bullets NEW were $950.
If I were buying NEW I would seriously look at the Flowmaster catback for under $350 shipped.
Hope this helps,
Howard
If you get 5-10hp out of a catback you should jump for joy, usually you gain nothing, but it sounds better.
I currently have the
Magnaflow #15884 catback on my 2005 C6 automatic
and the
Corsa Sports on my 2006 C6 manual.
I had B&B Bullets on the 2005, but they were a little tough to live with on a daily driver.
I bought the Corsa Sports used for $400 and the Magnaflows used for $500, the Bullets NEW were $950.
If I were buying NEW I would seriously look at the Flowmaster catback for under $350 shipped.
Hope this helps,
Howard
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Originally Posted by yell03
LAXTPS -
If you get 5-10hp out of a catback you should jump for joy, usually you gain nothing, but it sounds better.
I currently have the
Magnaflow #15884 catback on my 2005 C6 automatic
and the
Corsa Sports on my 2006 C6 manual.
I had B&B Bullets on the 2005, but they were a little tough to live with on a daily driver.
I bought the Corsa Sports used for $400 and the Magnaflows used for $500, the Bullets NEW were $950.
If I were buying NEW I would seriously look at the Flowmaster catback for under $350 shipped.
Hope this helps,
Howard
If you get 5-10hp out of a catback you should jump for joy, usually you gain nothing, but it sounds better.
I currently have the
Magnaflow #15884 catback on my 2005 C6 automatic
and the
Corsa Sports on my 2006 C6 manual.
I had B&B Bullets on the 2005, but they were a little tough to live with on a daily driver.
I bought the Corsa Sports used for $400 and the Magnaflows used for $500, the Bullets NEW were $950.
If I were buying NEW I would seriously look at the Flowmaster catback for under $350 shipped.
Hope this helps,
Howard
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I have the Borla Stingers. They sound great, but there is some drone around 1700-1800 rpms. In my opinion, it is reasonable. In fact, since the sound is so deep, I kind of like the drone. Make sure you hear the exhaust that you want to purchase on someone else's car before you buy just to make sure you don't regret your decision.
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Originally Posted by LAXTPS
Going crazy looking to pick out the right exhaust up grade for my C6 2006 Vette. Any one have a couple of picutures and comments on the GM performance system. I heard its made by Borla, any thruth to that? B&B Route 66 seems to look more like the stock system but comments seem pro and con on sound quailty. Doing it for the sound, I agree 20 -30 Hoursepower is meaningless on a 400 HP Vette.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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Originally Posted by achilds
I would have to disagree with the 30 hp being meaningless on a 400 hp car. The C6 gets somewhere in the range of 340 to 350 rwhp with a stock M6 transmission. If you add an extra 30 rwhp you will definitely notice it. That being said you won't get that from a cat back system. If it was my money I would buy headers and install them myself. They notch up the sound and if you keep the stock mufflers you get no drone. I don't really understand the need to add bark and no bite for a 1000 bucks!
I put LG Long Tubes on my 06 and kept the stock catback. I agree, I couldn't get myself to spend over $1000 for just a couple of horsepower. The headers added 26 rwhp and 39 ft lbs of torque and that's without a tune. The added benefit was it makes the stock catback sound a lot better!
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This Glenn agrees with Glennhl. Headers (LG Pro long tubes in the case of both Glenns) definitely wake the car up & give considerably more power than a cat-back system alone. In my case I actually did install a set of Borla Stingers & removed them less than 24 hours later because of drone. Thankfully the company I bought them from took them back & is giving me a full refund. Some don't mind the drone but there was no way I as going to be able to live with it. Way too much for my taste. Anyway it was a lesson learned, make sure no matter what cat-back system you get you listen to it first. I have heard the Corsa Sports (on a dealer car w/ stock exhaust manifolds) & it had no drone. Don't know how it sounds with headers though. In the end I'm just going to stick with my stock cans, they sound pretty sweet with my LGs. Besides I really don't think 4-5 rwhp & sound is worth 1K large.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Originally Posted by glennhl
I put LG Long Tubes on my 06 and kept the stock catback. I agree, I couldn't get myself to spend over $1000 for just a couple of horsepower. The headers added 26 rwhp and 39 ft lbs of torque and that's without a tune. The added benefit was it makes the stock catback sound a lot better!
How much does LG Long Tubes cost and how much more or less does it cost to install them and do you get alot more tunnel heat in the cabin.
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LG longtubes with high flow cats are about $1895. Install varies but if someone isn't ripping you off about $200 should do it. Yes, you will get more heat in through the console because the setup moves the cats from right near the engine to under the floor of the passenger compartment. Most people who worry about the interior heat install an Elite Engineering Thermal Abs or something similar. LG has a ceramin coated tunnel plate plus some insulation that goes into the tunnel.
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Just put B&B bullets on my M6 today. There is a ton of drone at 1500 rpm, pretty much unlivable, with either windows up or down, there is very little at 1000 rpm, and tad at 2000 rpm. BUT, it sounds so good at accelleration or downshifting, I'll just alter my driving style to keep it away from 1500 rpm. If you have an auto, stay away!!! There certainly was a big increase in power, it no longer chirps 2nd gear anymore, it rips the tires unitl it hooks back up. I loved them when i first started it up, hated them on my first ride, and now that i learned how to keep the drone down, I love them again!!!
Last edited by jsk96z28; Oct 1, 2006 at 10:21 PM.
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Originally Posted by FLGiordano
LG longtubes with high flow cats are about $1895. Install varies but if someone isn't ripping you off about $200 should do it. Yes, you will get more heat in through the console because the setup moves the cats from right near the engine to under the floor of the passenger compartment. Most people who worry about the interior heat install an Elite Engineering Thermal Abs or something similar. LG has a ceramin coated tunnel plate plus some insulation that goes into the tunnel.
Thanks for the info. 
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jsk96z28 -
I installed my B&B Bullets in the Cold winter month of December on my 2005 C6 Vert AUTOMATIC Daily Driver.
35 degree temps, top up, windows up, non-stop weather until April.
I'll bet you understand why I swapped them out.
I drove a C6 Manual tranny with Bullets recently (the guy who bought my Bullets).
Targa top off, 80 degree temps, windows down, manual tranny, I Loved it!
Howard
I installed my B&B Bullets in the Cold winter month of December on my 2005 C6 Vert AUTOMATIC Daily Driver.
35 degree temps, top up, windows up, non-stop weather until April.
I'll bet you understand why I swapped them out.
I drove a C6 Manual tranny with Bullets recently (the guy who bought my Bullets).
Targa top off, 80 degree temps, windows down, manual tranny, I Loved it!
Howard
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I've got the LG's with no cats and GHL, love it.
Here's a clip. Car is cold and the tune is running a little rich so bare
with the smoke and moisture.
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...gAnch=imgAnch1
Here's a clip. Car is cold and the tune is running a little rich so bare
with the smoke and moisture.
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...gAnch=imgAnch1
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Originally Posted by LAXTPS
Going crazy looking to pick out the right exhaust up grade for my C6 2006 Vette. Any one have a couple of picutures and comments on the GM performance system. I heard its made by Borla, any thruth to that? B&B Route 66 seems to look more like the stock system but comments seem pro and con on sound quailty. Doing it for the sound, I agree 20 -30 Hoursepower is meaningless on a 400 HP Vette.
Thanks,
Thanks,
Once you add headers, the game changes and you have to re-evaluate.
I'm not sure why people always bitch that mufflers don't add performance. For me, the sound, look, and feel of the car is just as important as performance. Are aftermarket wheels a waste of cash too? If you really wanted a sleeper, there are better choices than a 2 door sports car with huge rubber...
Last edited by Flareside; Oct 3, 2006 at 10:13 AM.
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Originally Posted by Flareside
On an otherwise stock car (i.e., no headers), you are on the right track when looking at the RT66. This system shares nothing with the bullets other than the tips. It has minimal drone, and the sound is a incredibly good, deep, musclecar tone. I preferred it to all the others I tried on my car before headers. The Borla system also sounds interesting, I'd love to try it on my car sometime.
Once you add headers, the game changes and you have to re-evaluate.
I'm not sure why people always bitch that mufflers don't add performance. For me, the sound, look, and feel of the car is just as important as performance. Are aftermarket wheels a waste of cash too? If you really wanted a sleeper, there are better choices than a 2 door sports car with huge rubber...
