Cam install Labor Hours?
Melting Slicks
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From: Allentown PA
If I were you I'd even reconsider retracting your claim, everyone right now knows you are lying and you are only kidding yourself.
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Racer
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From: odessa TX
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A cam swap on a C6 inside of 2 hours????I'd pay to see that.
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=1
While this is a C5 and did involve taking the heads off, it would take at least 2 hours to get all of the $#!* out just to get to the stock cam, even if you left the heads on.
Then there is getting the new cam in and buttoning everything back up.
Frankly CYA-Vett, and while I am not doubting you, I am amazed that anyone can claim even 6 hours. 2 is completely out of the question and about as believable as a man disassembling an entire car in 2 hours. You must really be moving. Are you working alone?
You could build 20 C6s a week all by your lonesome. Just bring him the parts and watch him work. You could replace about a dozen workers in that plant, and go a long way towards solving GMs financial problems.
UDRIVESLOW????? You sure don't work slow.
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; Dec 22, 2006 at 10:27 PM.
Racer
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From: odessa TX
how much????
everyone is welcome to watch..
its not hard to do..
I just charge 350 to 500 for the cam..
the labor depends on what i think of you...
I normaly only charge 500 bucks for labor...
if i do it at the dealership..
ill have to charge the 16.5 hrs at 86$per hr....
so it pays to be cool..
just think before you talk...
how many of you guys( not the other dealer techs out there)
remove every thing as the book says?try this.. remove the hood....
remove the valve covers, rocker arms, push rods....
remove the air filter, intake tube, and air front air scoop. remove the p/s pump ***. alternator,water pump. remove the radiator and condensor (THIS SHOULD TAKE NO MORE THAN 45 MINUTES)
p/s rack..(not the front suspension and sub frame) remove the harm. balancer.
remove front cover..
remove the timing chain and gear from the cam.. spin the cam ...
remove cam..
reverse to install...
if you cant do it in under 2 hrs... thats why you dont work at a corvette dealership........
AND I WOULD NEVER ATTEMPT TO SAY OR MAKE PEOPLE THINK THAT I COULD TAKE THE PLACE OF THE HARD WORKING STAFF AT GM..
THEY ARE SOME OF THE HARDEST WORKING GUYS AND GALS I KNOW..
THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR BUILDING SUCH A GREAT SPORTS CAR..
I LOVE IT... THANK YOU...AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS
UDRIVESLOW
everyone is welcome to watch..
its not hard to do..
I just charge 350 to 500 for the cam..
the labor depends on what i think of you...
I normaly only charge 500 bucks for labor...
if i do it at the dealership..
ill have to charge the 16.5 hrs at 86$per hr....
so it pays to be cool..
just think before you talk...
how many of you guys( not the other dealer techs out there)
remove every thing as the book says?try this.. remove the hood....
remove the valve covers, rocker arms, push rods....
remove the air filter, intake tube, and air front air scoop. remove the p/s pump ***. alternator,water pump. remove the radiator and condensor (THIS SHOULD TAKE NO MORE THAN 45 MINUTES)
p/s rack..(not the front suspension and sub frame) remove the harm. balancer.
remove front cover..
remove the timing chain and gear from the cam.. spin the cam ...
remove cam..
reverse to install...
if you cant do it in under 2 hrs... thats why you dont work at a corvette dealership........
AND I WOULD NEVER ATTEMPT TO SAY OR MAKE PEOPLE THINK THAT I COULD TAKE THE PLACE OF THE HARD WORKING STAFF AT GM..
THEY ARE SOME OF THE HARDEST WORKING GUYS AND GALS I KNOW..
THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR BUILDING SUCH A GREAT SPORTS CAR..
I LOVE IT... THANK YOU...AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS
UDRIVESLOW
Last edited by UDRIVESLOW; Dec 22, 2006 at 07:30 PM.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I've watched some excellent techs at HP Sales work on these vettes. The story goes the lead tech can R&R a cam before lunch (they start at 9 am). He does this stuff every day, knows every socket to have ready, the best angle to get every bolt off and just exactly how to remove the rack. It's like tying his shoes to him he does it so often. I really think he can do it.
I've R&R'd 2 clutches on these cars with a buddy, the 2nd time went a lot faster, about 8 hours and we're not techs. I actually think these cars are not bad at all to work on, compared to the old iron I'm used to (I've got a 71 442 vert and a 72 Hurst/Olds). I guess because none of the bolts are rusted in place on the Vette!!
I've R&R'd 2 clutches on these cars with a buddy, the 2nd time went a lot faster, about 8 hours and we're not techs. I actually think these cars are not bad at all to work on, compared to the old iron I'm used to (I've got a 71 442 vert and a 72 Hurst/Olds). I guess because none of the bolts are rusted in place on the Vette!!
Melting Slicks
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From: Allentown PA
just think before you talk...
how many of you guys( not the other dealer techs out there)
remove every thing as the book says?try this.. remove the hood....
remove the valve covers, rocker arms, push rods....
remove the air filter, intake tube, and air front air scoop. remove the p/s pump ***. alternator,water pump. remove the radiator and condensor (THIS SHOULD TAKE NO MORE THAN 45 MINUTES)
p/s rack..(not the front suspension and sub frame) remove the harm. balancer.
remove front cover..
remove the timing chain and gear from the cam.. spin the cam ...
remove cam..
reverse to install...
if you cant do it in under 2 hrs... thats why you dont work at a corvette dealership........
AND I WOULD NEVER ATTEMPT TO SAY OR MAKE PEOPLE THINK THAT I COULD TAKE THE PLACE OF THE HARD WORKING STAFF AT GM..
THEY ARE SOME OF THE HARDEST WORKING GUYS AND GALS I KNOW..
THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR BUILDING SUCH A GREAT SPORTS CAR..
I LOVE IT... THANK YOU...AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS
UDRIVESLOW
how many of you guys( not the other dealer techs out there)
remove every thing as the book says?try this.. remove the hood....
remove the valve covers, rocker arms, push rods....
remove the air filter, intake tube, and air front air scoop. remove the p/s pump ***. alternator,water pump. remove the radiator and condensor (THIS SHOULD TAKE NO MORE THAN 45 MINUTES)
p/s rack..(not the front suspension and sub frame) remove the harm. balancer.
remove front cover..
remove the timing chain and gear from the cam.. spin the cam ...
remove cam..
reverse to install...
if you cant do it in under 2 hrs... thats why you dont work at a corvette dealership........
AND I WOULD NEVER ATTEMPT TO SAY OR MAKE PEOPLE THINK THAT I COULD TAKE THE PLACE OF THE HARD WORKING STAFF AT GM..
THEY ARE SOME OF THE HARDEST WORKING GUYS AND GALS I KNOW..
THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR BUILDING SUCH A GREAT SPORTS CAR..
I LOVE IT... THANK YOU...AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS
UDRIVESLOW
It's ok if you made up the entire story, it's time to cut your losses and own up to it. We're talking about a cam swap, not an air cleaner swap.
This thread is getting laughable.
Melting Slicks
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From: Allentown PA
That is just under 6 hours with a buddy, not by myself. I never rushed through it by myself but I suspect it would take over 6 hours, especially if you include the springs.
Racer
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From: odessa TX
Ok, the more you talk the more you discredit yourself. Your cam swap includes removing the condensor? Since when? You are the ONLY guy who has ever removed the condensor for a cam swap. I guess you dont like AC? It will take some time to recharge the entire system. Now you have one hour to complete the swap, good luck...and smoke one for me
It's ok if you made up the entire story, it's time to cut your losses and own up to it. We're talking about a cam swap, not an air cleaner swap.
This thread is getting laughable.
It's ok if you made up the entire story, it's time to cut your losses and own up to it. We're talking about a cam swap, not an air cleaner swap.
This thread is getting laughable.
yet alone work on one...
have you ever worked with a/c?
it takes 10 minutes or less to evac an ac...
I'm done.......
you go on ahead and do what you do...
I'm sure you can do something thing faster than me..if that makes you feel better about your mechanical skills...
like I can't cook worth a damn...
it may take you 10 minutes to cook a hamburger it will take me 1 hr to figure out how I will try to cook it.......
anyway....
I'm going to try and cook a turkey this year...
since my wife is like 9 1/2 months pregnant...
so any help with that please chime in...
udriveslow
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.....try this.. remove the hood....
remove the valve covers, rocker arms, push rods....
remove the air filter, intake tube, and air front air scoop. remove the p/s pump ***. alternator,water pump. remove the radiator and condensor (THIS SHOULD TAKE NO MORE THAN 45 MINUTES).....
remove the valve covers, rocker arms, push rods....
remove the air filter, intake tube, and air front air scoop. remove the p/s pump ***. alternator,water pump. remove the radiator and condensor (THIS SHOULD TAKE NO MORE THAN 45 MINUTES).....
.
Wow, were you working in a chop shop before you became a GM tech?
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; Dec 22, 2006 at 10:47 PM.
Melting Slicks
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Racer
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From: odessa TX
that hurt.......
I havnt laughed that hard in a while......
and by the way...
my child hood is not up.for discussion ....
I'm not a gm world class tech for nothing....
I better be good for what they pay me
udriveslow
I havnt laughed that hard in a while......
and by the way...
my child hood is not up.for discussion ....
I'm not a gm world class tech for nothing....
I better be good for what they pay me
udriveslow
Drifting
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From: Nevada
Deep fried all the way, inject marinade of your choice the night before, cook 3 minutes per pound @ 350 degrees. Best bird you will have ever ate.
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From: Southampton NJ
I'm starting to wonder if you have ever seen a corvette.....
yet alone work on one...
have you ever worked with a/c?
it takes 10 minutes or less to evac an ac...
I'm done.......
you go on ahead and do what you do...
I'm sure you can do something thing faster than me..if that makes you feel better about your mechanical skills...
like I can't cook worth a damn...
it may take you 10 minutes to cook a hamburger it will take me 1 hr to figure out how I will try to cook it.......
anyway....
I'm going to try and cook a turkey this year...
since my wife is like 9 1/2 months pregnant...
so any help with that please chime in...
udriveslow
yet alone work on one...
have you ever worked with a/c?
it takes 10 minutes or less to evac an ac...
I'm done.......
you go on ahead and do what you do...
I'm sure you can do something thing faster than me..if that makes you feel better about your mechanical skills...
like I can't cook worth a damn...
it may take you 10 minutes to cook a hamburger it will take me 1 hr to figure out how I will try to cook it.......
anyway....
I'm going to try and cook a turkey this year...
since my wife is like 9 1/2 months pregnant...
so any help with that please chime in...
udriveslow
Melting Slicks
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From: Allentown PA
Congrats on the new child (soon)
Shortly you won't have 2 hours to do anything.
Maybe you can limit yourself to 1/2 hour head swaps??
