Big brake calipers
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They usually have their own brackets that adapt to the OEM locations. They also have larger rotors that require different wheels. The only ones that will bolt on are the C6 Z06 calipers. But you'll need the bigger rotors and after market wheels also.
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Brembo makes a kit.. but honestly I'd just get the C6 Z06 calipers.. 6 piston (brembo) monoblocks.. a set of Hawk pads, some Stoptech stainless lines, and aftermarket two piece rotors in your flavor of style.
Nice stopping power, top of the line components, and less of a hit on the wallet.. Plus the Z06 brakes say Corvette on them
Nice stopping power, top of the line components, and less of a hit on the wallet.. Plus the Z06 brakes say Corvette on them
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Brembo makes a kit.. but honestly I'd just get the C6 Z06 calipers.. 6 piston (brembo) monoblocks.. a set of Hawk pads, some Stoptech stainless lines, and aftermarket two piece rotors in your flavor of style.
Nice stopping power, top of the line components, and less of a hit on the wallet.. Plus the Z06 brakes say Corvette on them
Nice stopping power, top of the line components, and less of a hit on the wallet.. Plus the Z06 brakes say Corvette on them
Huh? The Z06 calipers are not made by Brembo and they are not even close to the performance of Brembo or Stoptech.
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i read it online a while ago.. a quick google popped this up: http://wheeltalk.fancal.net/?p=918 if it's not true then oh well.. As for not even close.. an aftermarket/upgraded brake setup utilizing the C6Z calipers is more then enough for the average Corvette enthusiast not to mention MUCH MUCH less expensive.
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PBR is the Z06 brake manufacturer. I agree even the stock C6 brakes are plenty for most people. If you really want an upgrade over the stock C6 calipers the Z06 calipers are not the way to go. You might as well pony up the dollars to get a real upgrade in performance not just bling. If you want just bling and dont plan to see any racetrack duty I guess the Z06 brakes will do fine.
It’s weird how in one sentence you said that you agree the C6Z brakes are “plenty” for most.. yet in the next you say they’re just not the way to go..?
What makes you think the C6Z calipers are “just bling”? Obviously they perform well enough to stop the C6Z.. Who do you know who pushes their brakes to their limits on the street? Keep in mind I wasn’t talking about an OE setup but a custom setup that utilizes the C6Z 6 piston monoblock calipers.
If you were to purchase two piece rotors you’d drop the same weight per corner.. if you buy a better pad then OE like a hawk you’ve got all the characteristics of an aftermarket BBK pad.. and I even said throw in some stainless lines.. Overall you'd have then created a custom BBK kit that’s far improved over the stock setup.. If the OE C6Z is plenty enough.. then the custom setup I've described is more then enough, and a 3,000$+ aftermarket BBK is just overkill.
The STOPTECH like kits have a market don't get me wrong.. but to me those who try to justify BBK purchases who seldom hit the track are in itfor the bling and not the performance benefits. I'm more of a performance for the dollar kind of guy myself.
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PBR is the Z06 brake manufacturer. I agree even the stock C6 brakes are plenty for most people. If you really want an upgrade over the stock C6 calipers the Z06 calipers are not the way to go. You might as well pony up the dollars to get a real upgrade in performance not just bling. If you want just bling and dont plan to see any racetrack duty I guess the Z06 brakes will do fine.
Last edited by Minkster; Jan 30, 2007 at 02:31 PM.
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You might want to check with the guys at Spring Mtn Race Driving school on that. They use the stock calipers for their C6 Z06s, and only upgrade the pads. I've had my car (is has C6 Z06 Brakes front/rear and SS lines) there for HPDEs, and they was excellent, no fade and really hauls the car down from speed repeatedly. My stock pads did fine too. Now if you're going full blown racing, I would agree to get aftermarket, but mainly for the ability to use thicker pads. Stock Z06 pads are thinner and have not lasted a full race according to people who have turned their cars into race machines. Z06 Calipers would be fine if they accepted thicker pads, and for HPDE events they are fine. Overkill on the street, but look good
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You might want to check with the guys at Spring Mtn Race Driving school on that. They use the stock calipers for their C6 Z06s, and only upgrade the pads. I've had my car (is has C6 Z06 Brakes front/rear and SS lines) there for HPDEs, and they was excellent, no fade and really hauls the car down from speed repeatedly. My stock pads did fine too. Now if you're going full blown racing, I would agree to get aftermarket, but mainly for the ability to use thicker pads. Stock Z06 pads are thinner and have not lasted a full race according to people who have turned their cars into race machines. Z06 Calipers would be fine if they accepted thicker pads, and for HPDE events they are fine. Overkill on the street, but look good
I've taken apart and reassembled C6Z, Stoptech, Baer 6S, Brembo and Rotora calipers and I can't see any functional difference between them and the C6Z calipers. The only caliper that has any real difference is the Baer monoblock, as instead of dust shields, they use 2 inner seals per piston. Probably the best setup for the track, as dust boots are the only parts that really fail. Pad thickness is the only downside in my opinion.
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By the time you buy better rotors/pads/etc. You could probably spend just a little more for the Brembo,PFC,Stoptech and have a much better brake package.
Just IMO.
Someone like Gary from Hardbar or is probably much more qualified to answer your questions.
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Burning Brakes
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for one, pad replacement cost. Have you priced any C6Z06 pads?
By the time you buy better rotors/pads/etc. You could probably spend just a little more for the Brembo,PBR,Stoptech and have a much better brake package.
Just IMO.
Someone like Gary from Hardbar or is probably much more qualified to answer your questions.
By the time you buy better rotors/pads/etc. You could probably spend just a little more for the Brembo,PBR,Stoptech and have a much better brake package.
Just IMO.
Someone like Gary from Hardbar or is probably much more qualified to answer your questions.
Racing Brake sells front+rear 2-piece rotor sets for around 1300, Z06 calipers front+rear are around 1K for all four, with the Hawk pads you looking at an awesome front/rear setup for the price of most front setups.
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The groves, heat from hard braking and the heat of the hot pads, next to a cooler rotor cause the rotors to crack.
Most guys who seriours track the new Z get two sets of pads and a spare set of rotors for EACH track weekend.
New 2 pice rotors will have some affect. Better pads will have some effect too. Using a thinker pad is the best solution. Unfortunitly a thicker pad does not fit in this caliper.
So going to a 2 piece rotor, non-drilled and slotted, and race pads, Hawk or Carbotech for example, and fresh DOT 4 racing brake fluid, SUper Blue, Motul or Castrol SRF. and the brakes work great.
Just rember one set of pads per weekend. Race pads can be driven to and from and event, but really should not be used on the street as they will squeek like crazy, and dust too.
HTH
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For normal street use these brakes are great. For on track use as in a HPDE or open track time, the Federo pads are too soft and too thin. The thin pad is used up very quickly in most cases with in one day. Drivers dont check their brakes enough. When the pad is warn down to the backing plat, which happens quite frequently, the backing plate will start to scrape groves into the rotors from constant hard braking.
The groves, heat from hard braking and the heat of the hot pads, next to a cooler rotor cause the rotors to crack.
Most guys who seriours track the new Z get two sets of pads and a spare set of rotors for EACH track weekend.
New 2 pice rotors will have some affect. Better pads will have some effect too. Using a thinker pad is the best solution. Unfortunitly a thicker pad does not fit in this caliper.
So going to a 2 piece rotor, non-drilled and slotted, and race pads, Hawk or Carbotech for example, and fresh DOT 4 racing brake fluid, SUper Blue, Motul or Castrol SRF. and the brakes work great.
Just rember one set of pads per weekend. Race pads can be driven to and from and event, but really should not be used on the street as they will squeek like crazy, and dust too.
HTH
The groves, heat from hard braking and the heat of the hot pads, next to a cooler rotor cause the rotors to crack.
Most guys who seriours track the new Z get two sets of pads and a spare set of rotors for EACH track weekend.
New 2 pice rotors will have some affect. Better pads will have some effect too. Using a thinker pad is the best solution. Unfortunitly a thicker pad does not fit in this caliper.
So going to a 2 piece rotor, non-drilled and slotted, and race pads, Hawk or Carbotech for example, and fresh DOT 4 racing brake fluid, SUper Blue, Motul or Castrol SRF. and the brakes work great.
Just rember one set of pads per weekend. Race pads can be driven to and from and event, but really should not be used on the street as they will squeek like crazy, and dust too.
HTH
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I have seen several sets of Brembos from turbo 911's and vipers pretty cheap and would like to run them on my car. I guess the question is: are brackets available to adapt them, do I need to change my rotors and where can I find the correct part numbers. Bremo's web site sucks for this type of lookup.
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I agree,
I've taken apart and reassembled C6Z, Stoptech, Baer 6S, Brembo and Rotora calipers and I can't see any functional difference between them and the C6Z calipers. The only caliper that has any real difference is the Baer monoblock, as instead of dust shields, they use 2 inner seals per piston. Probably the best setup for the track, as dust boots are the only parts that really fail. Pad thickness is the only downside in my opinion.
I've taken apart and reassembled C6Z, Stoptech, Baer 6S, Brembo and Rotora calipers and I can't see any functional difference between them and the C6Z calipers. The only caliper that has any real difference is the Baer monoblock, as instead of dust shields, they use 2 inner seals per piston. Probably the best setup for the track, as dust boots are the only parts that really fail. Pad thickness is the only downside in my opinion.
