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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Can you remove or reduce torque management with the Diablosport Tuner? If yes how?
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No.

a good tunner might be able too. But not any hand held units
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Or for the price of the handheld and a bit more you can get HP Tuners and do it yourself.
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Also true that you can do your own vasectomy.

But like tuning a PCM, the vasectory requires skill usually not had by first-timers, and the consequence of mistakes is not small.

So it's good advice that anyone operating on your PCM, or johnson, should be experienced and competent in the procedure.

Just a thought.

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PS...Usually the guys recommending you tune your own PCM are IT professionals.
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Also true that you can do your own vasectomy.
But like tuning a PCM, the vasectory requires skill usually not had by first-timers, and the consequence of mistakes is not small.
So it's good advice that anyone operating on your PCM, or johnson, should be experienced and competent in the procedure.
Just a thought.
PS...Usually the guys recommending you tune your own PCM are IT professionals.
True. No matter how good I thought I was, I would NEVER attempt to tune my own car, especially once the more serious mods (heads and cam, forced induction, nitrous etc.) are involved.
I would only take it to the professional tuners (Cartek Racing etc.) that have had years of experience, R&D and track/dyno passes working with the LSX series of motors/PCMs.
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If you look at the DiabloSport website and look at the installation instructions for the Diablo U7194 it says you can eliminate it on some vehicles but it does not recommend you doing it on trucks or SUV's. Seeing as a Corvette is neither of those then can I do it????
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YOur car, go ahead. But a few ppl have had a bit of experience with hand helds and going to a tuner.

Heck anyone can buy the software and hook up to your puter to the ECM. But do you know what you are doing?

Which tables to set where?? That is where the experience of a tuner comes in.

Good Luck with which ever way you go.

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I'm not familar with the 06-07 Predator. With the 05 Predator the user cannot make adjustments to Torque Management. However, I believe the default tunes have Torque Management altered.
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I emailed DiabloSport and they said with the Diablo-Tune they turn the TM off on the C6 Corvette.
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I emailed DiabloSport and they said with the Diablo-Tune they turn the TM off on the C6 Corvette.
They might turn some of it off yes, but there are so many tables and even more hidden tables within other hidden tables that there is NO WAY that a handheld tuner/programmer is going to even come close to matching what a skilled/knowledgeable human utilizing HP Tuners/EFI Live/LS2 Edit etc can do.
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Also true that you can do your own vasectomy.

But like tuning a PCM, the vasectory requires skill usually not had by first-timers, and the consequence of mistakes is not small.

So it's good advice that anyone operating on your PCM, or johnson, should be experienced and competent in the procedure.

Just a thought.

Ranger

PS...Usually the guys recommending you tune your own PCM are IT professionals.


Don't be penny wise and pound foolish. Unless you have the experience or related skills.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
They might turn some of it off yes, but there are so many tables and even more hidden tables within other hidden tables that there is NO WAY that a handheld tuner/programmer is going to even come close to matching what a skilled/knowledgeable human utilizing HP Tuners/EFI Live/LS2 Edit etc can do.
Diablosport uses their Chipmaster Revolution software to develop tunes which are then downloaded into the hand-held units. The software is similar to HP Tuners or LS2 Edit. Assuming the software has the same tables as HP Tuners and LS2 Edit then they have the same capabilities. Of course a tune is only as good as the tuner.
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There are alot of tunes out there. Be careful. Be sure you have some way to evaluate what your engine is doing. Not just on the dyno, but daily driving, you would be suprised. A tuner can datalog to see if you are getting alot of knock retard, and pulling timing, for example. Or the tune you bought might decrease the sensitivity to report KR and eat up your motor. A tuner can pick that up. If you do it yourself, take time to see what to do. It is a good learning experience. There is quite a bit there, and bulletin boards to help galore. You can get alot of safe power increase. Apply good scientific method. Verify safe operation. Measure everything.
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Also true that you can do your own vasectomy.

But like tuning a PCM, the vasectory requires skill usually not had by first-timers, and the consequence of mistakes is not small.

So it's good advice that anyone operating on your PCM, or johnson, should be experienced and competent in the procedure.

Just a thought.

Ranger

PS...Usually the guys recommending you tune your own PCM are IT professionals.
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Originally Posted by steve286
I emailed DiabloSport and they said with the Diablo-Tune they turn the TM off on the C6 Corvette.
have you been to the track to see how it runs with the predator yet?
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Originally Posted by kelp
There are alot of tunes out there. Be careful. Be sure you have some way to evaluate what your engine is doing. Not just on the dyno, but daily driving, you would be suprised. A tuner can datalog to see if you are getting alot of knock retard, and pulling timing, for example. Or the tune you bought might decrease the sensitivity to report KR and eat up your motor. A tuner can pick that up. If you do it yourself, take time to see what to do. It is a good learning experience. There is quite a bit there, and bulletin boards to help galore. You can get alot of safe power increase. Apply good scientific method. Verify safe operation. Measure everything.
I agree with this. If you are willing to invest the time reading and asking questions the help is out there. Frankly, it's not magic and you don't need to be an IT guru. HP Tuners logging software is fantastic to verify the results of what you've done.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
They might turn some of it off yes, but there are so many tables and even more hidden tables within other hidden tables that there is NO WAY that a handheld tuner/programmer is going to even come close to matching what a skilled/knowledgeable human utilizing HP Tuners/EFI Live/LS2 Edit etc can do.


We can do a mail order tune if you would like us to disable your TM. Just shoot me a PM if interested.

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