C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

What causes cam failure?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 01:10 PM
  #1  
mfoti's Avatar
mfoti
Thread Starter
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 233
Likes: 1
Default What causes cam failure?

Noticing some threads of aftermarket performance cams that have been pulled and noticed to be chewed up, metal in the engine, etc. Is this a screwed up install or does the cam swap come with additional risks that aren't openly discussed. I know dual springs are a no-brainer but other than a dropped valve what is the potential for a problem?
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 02:19 PM
  #2  
dbradley's Avatar
dbradley
Pro
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 672
Likes: 1
From: Sapulpa Oklahoma
Default

Most of these threads refer to flat tappet cams, not rollers. With recent changes in chemistry in engine oils to meet government emission requirements, the oils don't provide needed lubricity for the lifter/lobe break in procedure for older styled engines. The use of oils such as Delo or Rotella and GM EOS will help to prevent the failure on startup. These products still have the 'old' formulas and seem to prevent the dreaded first time startup failure.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 02:25 PM
  #3  
johnodrake's Avatar
johnodrake
Moderator
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Veteran: Navy
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 40,891
Likes: 4,345
From: Lakewood Ranch, FL
Default

I would guess a poor install - including an improperly lubed cam. I would always use a known, reputable installer.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 03:54 PM
  #4  
andreas g.'s Avatar
andreas g.
Drifting
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 125
From: laguna niguel ca
Default

billet cams, hardened cam lobes, plus roller lifters, equals no cam failures that I've ever heard of on LS type motors. If they exist at all there very rare. I think a cam my simply break in two before they would go flat as they say.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 04:04 PM
  #5  
EuroRod's Avatar
EuroRod
Race Director
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 18,396
Likes: 169
Default

Like they say, cam failures are pretty darn rare these days, with roller lifters. Extreme valve spring pressure is one source of potential cause, but they usually cause the roller to fail first. I'd speculate that it could be improper adjustment. However, when they do fail, is a royal PITA, for sure.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 04:16 PM
  #6  
mfoti's Avatar
mfoti
Thread Starter
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 233
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by EuroRod
Like they say, cam failures are pretty darn rare these days, with roller lifters. Extreme valve spring pressure is one source of potential cause, but they usually cause the roller to fail first. I'd speculate that it could be improper adjustment. However, when they do fail, is a royal PITA, for sure.
So if a roller/lifter fails can/will that trash an engine?
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 04:54 PM
  #7  
k0bun's Avatar
k0bun
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,891
Likes: 1
From: NJ..."the way I saw it, everyone takes a beating sometimes."
Default

As long as the cam is porperly installed with the necessary valvetrain upgrades, I don't see there being many failures. I would trust an aftermarket cam in my engine more than I would aftermarket rockers. JMO
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 05:44 PM
  #8  
TEXASRANGER's Avatar
TEXASRANGER
HOOK-EM HORNS
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,517
Likes: 842
From: Port Aransas, Texas Tx
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

Originally Posted by dbradley
Most of these threads refer to flat tappet cams, not rollers. With recent changes in chemistry in engine oils to meet government emission requirements, the oils don't provide needed lubricity for the lifter/lobe break in procedure for older styled engines. The use of oils such as Delo or Rotella and GM EOS will help to prevent the failure on startup. These products still have the 'old' formulas and seem to prevent the dreaded first time startup failure.
You must use an oil with zinc etc. to break in a new cam on an old engine and I would do this for sure on a new engine as well.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To What causes cam failure?

Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:39 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE