Which is more fun...BLOWER or H/C ??
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St. Jude Donor '08
Which is more fun...BLOWER or H/C ??
Which is more fun for the street and strip(1/4) a Blower or N/A heads and cam? I have been thinking about doing one of these mods .
I would like to hear from both sides. I also would like to hear the PRO`s and CON`s of each mod also,hopefully the PRO`s with their setups will chime in. I already have a H/C combo in mind with my tuner CARTEK,but i would still would like to hear of different setups and also Vettes with just Blowers and headers without going into the motor.
I would like to hear from both sides. I also would like to hear the PRO`s and CON`s of each mod also,hopefully the PRO`s with their setups will chime in. I already have a H/C combo in mind with my tuner CARTEK,but i would still would like to hear of different setups and also Vettes with just Blowers and headers without going into the motor.
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Well my car has heads/cam, and I've driven other cars with blowers. Some good things about a H/C setup are that it sounds great, the lope feels cool, its very reliable, and the power is very consistent. Downsides are that depending on the cam, there can be some loss of driveability, it will also make most exhausts you love drone too much, and also not many women will think the shaking car is a cool thing, lol. If you ever want to remove the parts its not as easy as removing a blower.
Blowers sound really REALLY cool, especially maggies or KB's. The power is great, and the car keeps pulling right up to redline. Normally aspirated cars usually start to drop off a little right before redline, but blown cars just keep on going, and its a really great feeling. Some downsides are that blowers are very sensitive (or so I've heard) to changes in ambient temps, so your hp is not very consistent. Also, if you ever plan to autocross or roadrace your car, then blowers and turbos are not ideal due to heat issues. With blowers there can also be belt slip issues but I havent seen that be a really big problem with current setups.
I'm sure there's more but these are just a few point off the top of my head
Blowers sound really REALLY cool, especially maggies or KB's. The power is great, and the car keeps pulling right up to redline. Normally aspirated cars usually start to drop off a little right before redline, but blown cars just keep on going, and its a really great feeling. Some downsides are that blowers are very sensitive (or so I've heard) to changes in ambient temps, so your hp is not very consistent. Also, if you ever plan to autocross or roadrace your car, then blowers and turbos are not ideal due to heat issues. With blowers there can also be belt slip issues but I havent seen that be a really big problem with current setups.
I'm sure there's more but these are just a few point off the top of my head
Burning Brakes
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the corvette in my opinion was meant to be n/a...with the high compression it is not ideal for superchargers and not to mention a vette just sounds wicked with a nice lope
superchargers are good and all...but i just dont think they are that exciting. i have had 2 supercharged cars in the past...a 95 gt 5.0L mustang (started out n/a then supercharged...then sold) and a 97 cobra (started supercharged then went to n/a) and n/a was always more fun, especially when i would beat someone in a race, the win just felt that much more gratifying!
and if you have the right set up you wont lose drivability and your car can pull all the way to redline
superchargers are good and all...but i just dont think they are that exciting. i have had 2 supercharged cars in the past...a 95 gt 5.0L mustang (started out n/a then supercharged...then sold) and a 97 cobra (started supercharged then went to n/a) and n/a was always more fun, especially when i would beat someone in a race, the win just felt that much more gratifying!
and if you have the right set up you wont lose drivability and your car can pull all the way to redline
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the corvette in my opinion was meant to be n/a...with the high compression it is not ideal for superchargers and not to mention a vette just sounds wicked with a nice lope
superchargers are good and all...but i just dont think they are that exciting. i have had 2 supercharged cars in the past...a 95 gt 5.0L mustang (started out n/a then supercharged...then sold) and a 97 cobra (started supercharged then went to n/a) and n/a was always more fun, especially when i would beat someone in a race, the win just felt that much more gratifying!
and if you have the right set up you wont lose drivability and your car can pull all the way to redline
superchargers are good and all...but i just dont think they are that exciting. i have had 2 supercharged cars in the past...a 95 gt 5.0L mustang (started out n/a then supercharged...then sold) and a 97 cobra (started supercharged then went to n/a) and n/a was always more fun, especially when i would beat someone in a race, the win just felt that much more gratifying!
and if you have the right set up you wont lose drivability and your car can pull all the way to redline
Had an 03 Cobra Convertible before my C6. I miss the supercharger and massive low end torque. Don't get me wrong, I love my vette and the smooth ride and awesome control. That said, nothing beats a blown car for instant and awesome torque! Additionally the sound is awesome! Planning a maggie upgrade for my car in the near future!
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St. Jude Donor '08
Believe me if $$,$$$ was no object it would be twin`s for sure
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St. Jude Donor '08
Well my car has heads/cam, and I've driven other cars with blowers. Some good things about a H/C setup are that it sounds great, the lope feels cool, its very reliable, and the power is very consistent. Downsides are that depending on the cam, there can be some loss of driveability, it will also make most exhausts you love drone too much, and also not many women will think the shaking car is a cool thing, lol. If you ever want to remove the parts its not as easy as removing a blower.
Blowers sound really REALLY cool, especially maggies or KB's. The power is great, and the car keeps pulling right up to redline. Normally aspirated cars usually start to drop off a little right before redline, but blown cars just keep on going, and its a really great feeling. Some downsides are that blowers are very sensitive (or so I've heard) to changes in ambient temps, so your hp is not very consistent. Also, if you ever plan to autocross or roadrace your car, then blowers and turbos are not ideal due to heat issues. With blowers there can also be belt slip issues but I havent seen that be a really big problem with current setups.
I'm sure there's more but these are just a few point off the top of my head
Blowers sound really REALLY cool, especially maggies or KB's. The power is great, and the car keeps pulling right up to redline. Normally aspirated cars usually start to drop off a little right before redline, but blown cars just keep on going, and its a really great feeling. Some downsides are that blowers are very sensitive (or so I've heard) to changes in ambient temps, so your hp is not very consistent. Also, if you ever plan to autocross or roadrace your car, then blowers and turbos are not ideal due to heat issues. With blowers there can also be belt slip issues but I havent seen that be a really big problem with current setups.
I'm sure there's more but these are just a few point off the top of my head
- With everything said , and I have a Procharger - Love it to death , but the high (85+) temps WILL take their toll in the hot months .
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Funny thing is twins don't end up being much more expensive than the maggie when you add it all up -
Twins - you don't need new FRCs or a new hood. Total cost between 8-10k depending on if you install it yourself or have it done professionally.
Maggie - About $8500 installed with new FRC's, hood and paint.
In the end, not much difference...
Twins - you don't need new FRCs or a new hood. Total cost between 8-10k depending on if you install it yourself or have it done professionally.
Maggie - About $8500 installed with new FRC's, hood and paint.
In the end, not much difference...
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If the twin T idea sounds like a winner, you could check out STS.
I'm still not sold on the rear turbo thing but, it is interesting..
i've played with both versions (in mustangs)
the lumpy idle and the driveability issues drove me nuts N/A
blowers cause things to get $$$ when something goes wrong.
or, you can do both and get the nightmares from both (current)
to do over again, i'd go turbo and worry about the money later.
to put into perspective.
to gain 100rwhp N/A. your looking at a somewhat serious combo.
you could drive it everyday but, what is your tolerence level?
100rwhp on a blower will drive like stock.
I'm still not sold on the rear turbo thing but, it is interesting..
i've played with both versions (in mustangs)
the lumpy idle and the driveability issues drove me nuts N/A
blowers cause things to get $$$ when something goes wrong.
or, you can do both and get the nightmares from both (current)
to do over again, i'd go turbo and worry about the money later.
to put into perspective.
to gain 100rwhp N/A. your looking at a somewhat serious combo.
you could drive it everyday but, what is your tolerence level?
100rwhp on a blower will drive like stock.
Burning Brakes
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From: Midland, TX........ 550 RWHP/520 RWTQ (A6)
For "fun on the street", it's hard to beat a maggie. I've driven most of the packages out there and they all have their advantages, but I kept coming back to the maggie. The massive low end torque is what I was looking for........without the complexity of a TT setup. I've had cammed cars in the past and they definitely turn heads, but I became tired of the lopey idle after a while (if your going to change cams...it might as well sound good).My suggestion is to drive (or ride in) every package you can.
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I didn't look at your wheel/tire combo (if mentioned), but with the Vortech SQ making 477 rwtq and 506 rwhp I have trouble hooking up in the lower gears. I think it's tremendous fun, I think more low-end torque would just mean that more rubber would be on the road.
The torque of a positive displacement blower would be pretty cool to take off in 2nd or 3rd gear from lower rpms and get pinned to the seat.
Bonus of the centrifugal sc (especially the Vortech SQ) - no hood change needed, can hardly tell it's supercharged if you don't know what you're listening for, gets 33+ highway mpg, etc...
I'm lucky I live in areas where finding long, straight country roads is a minute and a half drive. If it were more city driving I might have leaned more towards the maggie
The torque of a positive displacement blower would be pretty cool to take off in 2nd or 3rd gear from lower rpms and get pinned to the seat.
Bonus of the centrifugal sc (especially the Vortech SQ) - no hood change needed, can hardly tell it's supercharged if you don't know what you're listening for, gets 33+ highway mpg, etc...
I'm lucky I live in areas where finding long, straight country roads is a minute and a half drive. If it were more city driving I might have leaned more towards the maggie
Burning Brakes
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From: Midland, TX........ 550 RWHP/520 RWTQ (A6)
You're right about the traction problems (that's half the fun).......but you have to remember that with a positive displacement blower, you don't have to put your foot into it to feel the torque.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Thanks for all the posts so far I just got back from driving a 06 Z06 and what a fricking difference in power from my car,i was just amazed at the torque in that car. Keep them coming
I just got back from driving a 06 Z06 and what a fricking difference in power from my car,i was just amazed at the torque in that car. Keep them coming
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Funny thing is twins don't end up being much more expensive than the maggie when you add it all up -
Twins - you don't need new FRCs or a new hood. Total cost between 8-10k depending on if you install it yourself or have it done professionally.
Maggie - About $8500 installed with new FRC's, hood and paint.
In the end, not much difference...
Twins - you don't need new FRCs or a new hood. Total cost between 8-10k depending on if you install it yourself or have it done professionally.
Maggie - About $8500 installed with new FRC's, hood and paint.
In the end, not much difference...
Burning Brakes
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From: St. Louis MO
Had an 03 Cobra Convertible before my C6. I miss the supercharger and massive low end torque. Don't get me wrong, I love my vette and the smooth ride and awesome control. That said, nothing beats a blown car for instant and awesome torque! Additionally the sound is awesome! Planning a maggie upgrade for my car in the near future!
Cheers
Cheers
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I don't know that one is more fun than the other but instead of putting a SC on a stock, cast-piston engine, my preference was the fully built, naturally aspirated LPE 403 motor. I like a strong, forged-component motor. I went with a mid-range cam and suffer no drivability issues on the street. With the LGM long tube headers and Corsa Sport exhaust the car sounds awesome and there is no drone (even running on a road course with many nice, modified cars people constantly tell me how great the car sounds). The car runs as good as it sounds!
There's no right or wrong but I know what does it for me.
There's no right or wrong but I know what does it for me.
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From: KINGS PARK NY
Which is more fun for the street and strip(1/4) a Blower or N/A heads and cam? I have been thinking about doing one of these mods .
I would like to hear from both sides. I also would like to hear the PRO`s and CON`s of each mod also,hopefully the PRO`s with their setups will chime in. I already have a H/C combo in mind with my tuner CARTEK,but i would still would like to hear of different setups and also Vettes with just Blowers and headers without going into the motor.
I would like to hear from both sides. I also would like to hear the PRO`s and CON`s of each mod also,hopefully the PRO`s with their setups will chime in. I already have a H/C combo in mind with my tuner CARTEK,but i would still would like to hear of different setups and also Vettes with just Blowers and headers without going into the motor.
BOTH