Hi Guys, What Do You Think About This Two, I Have A 06 Z51 A6vert., Tb Spacer, And Corsa Sport, And I May Take It To Get The Pc Tuned.

 

Just close your eyes and pick one-they are both excellent units.I have the Vortex rammer and love it,but just as many have the Snakecharmer and are happy with it.They both do what they claim,and you will like the smoothness and overall drivability that CAI adds to you car.

 

I have a vortex rammer and two spare filters. All in excellent condition. I am installing a supercharger and will not be able to use it anymore....works great. Send me a pm if interested. Was about 600 for the rammer and 2 spare filters....I'll give you a good deal

 

Both seem to be nice units. I have the Vararam, and I have timeslips before and after install showing about a 3 tenths improvement in 1/4 mile time. Bone stock, my best was 13.2 and just after the Vararam I managed a best 12.9. It works! My best time is now a 12.4 with Current mods including Vararam, TB spacer, LG Longtubes, Highflow Cats, and Diablo Tuner. Hope this info helps.

 

The Vararam has cold air with ram-air, the other is cold air only

 

The Vortex system is both a cold air and ram air. Actually our ram surface area is about 100 sq inches vs theres at 20sq inches. Our filter also has a merge cone built inside to speed up the velocity of the air coming in. We pick up the ram air directly from the lower air dam which is designed by GM to force the max air to the radiator cavity. We also now hold the record for the fastest C6 stock with minor bolt ons at 11.40's

Ernie
www.BreathlessPerformance.com

 

we use both. both are great products and work well. it just comes down to cost and prefrence. both good for .3 at the strip easily

 

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Ted

 

Both are good units, most have a personal preference one way or the other. Ive seen and used both, but until someone does a sequential test on the exact same car by swapping the intake in back to back testing, using track times coupled with data logging, I don't think anyone will ever know if there is much of a difference, if at all, during actual driving or racing conditions between the two. I can tell you this, both units produce noticeable gains, especially if the car is tuned upon installation.

The Vararam is a true ram air; when the vehicle is moving, air is collected through a scoop and forced directly through a filter and up to the throttle body under pressure, similar to what happens in a jet or turbine engine. This causes a Venturi effect; when air flows through a tube or pipe with a constriction or decreasing diameter in it, the velocity must increase through the constriction to satisfy the equation of continuity. I have seen scanning logs that show pressure and flow gains as speed increases with with Vararam, especially over 75 mph. The faster you go, the higher the pressure and air flow. Another thing I have definitely seen during tuning is lower overall Intake Air Temps using the Vararam than any other CAI. Not a tremendous difference, but lower temps for certain, especially at slower speeds.

The Vortex has a collection chamber that air is forced into, but it still has to be drawn through the cone filter which protrudes into the collection box and then up to the throttle body. Air is only forced into a square collection box, it is not directed or funneled through a tube directly into the TB. It does have a nice big area for collecting air and there are different box designs (clear or black) that some may prefer for aesthetics.

Even with the difference in design, I think both would be fairly equal at the speeds most of us drive at. There seems to be two sides to the advantages and disadvantages (along with brand loyalty) to these as well as the Callaway Honker, the Hurricane, the Blackwing, etc but in the end, any one of them will add notable power over the restrictive stock air box, and will be a quality performing and better looking addition to your C6.

 

What he said.

 

20 sq inches?Lot more than that plus no mention of the 2 inch pleats.
It will move as much or more than your filter that's for sure! better check that again! , Plus the lower air dam can
build NO pressure as the radiator cavity is Just that and it is full of fins that bleed all the pressure as designed! To cooling! With the Vararam, air thats pick up by the scoup,has no where to go as it's out front in the air stream. Real air pressure!
plus yours, is compared on the vararam website to the Vararam! Real results! BPP unit may be good but don't knock the Vararam!

 

do you mean that cone filters are not good?
because even the vararam has a filter, what makes it defferent?

 

we can debate all we want, but the fact is, the Vortex is built by people that race. The vararam is built by people that don't race as it is has overheated on the road course.

 

From the website, I only see the hose and the box. The box looks to fit over the shroud. How exactly is air rammed in there? It's not even facing the direction that the air would come from (front). Am I missing something?

 

go with the vararam. it has held the c6 bolt/on record more times, and longer, than BPP.and will again i don't think the cai made the difference it was the fact of more hp from the LS3, and a good set up, and great driver

 

If the cai makes no difference, why would anyone get one? Am I not understanding what you said?

 

the vara ram is better. i am saying i have had the bolt/on record 4-5 times. i have the lowly ls2 the new bolt/on record holder has an ls3 which is more power they have 30-50 more hp over the ls2. i went from a 12.91 to a 12.38 with the vr same da. i haven't seen any ls2 with a bpp beat my record lets compare apples to apples. i don't own vararam or get anything from them
yes you read it wrong the cold air bpp didnt make the ls3 win the extra 30-50 hp did and also the a6

 

Tuned in.

 

Talking about records, looks like we hold the fastest 08 A6 bolt on products at 11.44 at 119 mph.

That is with the Vortex Ram Induction system not the Vararam

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1855241

Ernie
www.BreathlessPerformance.com

 

i agree with that statement 100%