C6 1/4 Mile Performance Challenge
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St. Jude Donor '08
I can be added to the list finally!!!!! I am heading for my 10!!!!
2007 C6 M6
490 rwhp/442 torque
Callaway Honker CAI | Spinmonster Ported FAST 90mm | LG G6X3 Cam | Trick Flow 225's milled to 62cc | LG Pro Z06 headers | Catless | Z06 B&B Bullets | RPM Stage III 4.10's, diff, and shafts | 17" ZR1 wheels with MT ET Streets
Ennis, Tx 11-15-08 Temp in low 50's Negative DA Lots of wind blowing NW
60' 1.732
330' 4.822
1/8 7.309
MPH 101.12
1000' 9.438
1/4 11.194
MPH 129.02
2007 C6 M6
490 rwhp/442 torque
Callaway Honker CAI | Spinmonster Ported FAST 90mm | LG G6X3 Cam | Trick Flow 225's milled to 62cc | LG Pro Z06 headers | Catless | Z06 B&B Bullets | RPM Stage III 4.10's, diff, and shafts | 17" ZR1 wheels with MT ET Streets
Ennis, Tx 11-15-08 Temp in low 50's Negative DA Lots of wind blowing NW
60' 1.732
330' 4.822
1/8 7.309
MPH 101.12
1000' 9.438
1/4 11.194
MPH 129.02
A couple of questions please - 1. Do you have to shift to 5th (and if not, what do you have your rev limiter at?), and 2. What's your launch technique - do you scan, and if so, what rpm are you launching and shifting at? That MPH is capable of 10.7's with a 1.5 launch (not that I can get 1.5 launches but my buddies can.
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Great pass - man that car is making some power as evidenced by those MPH's!!
A couple of questions please - 1. Do you have to shift to 5th (and if not, what do you have your rev limiter at?), and 2. What's your launch technique - do you scan, and if so, what rpm are you launching and shifting at? That MPH is capable of 10.7's with a 1.5 launch (not that I can get 1.5 launches but my buddies can.
A couple of questions please - 1. Do you have to shift to 5th (and if not, what do you have your rev limiter at?), and 2. What's your launch technique - do you scan, and if so, what rpm are you launching and shifting at? That MPH is capable of 10.7's with a 1.5 launch (not that I can get 1.5 launches but my buddies can.
i am a noob at all this so my launch technique is odd...on that run i got up to the line..reved it and just listened...odd enough i didn't look at the rpm...i went by the sound of my car....haha...i would assume it was about 2500rpm...
i think rev limiter is at 6800 or 6850...i only had to go into 4th...i was crossing the 1/4 almost at redline in 4th every run...
i shifting about 6850rpm...as close as i could to rev limiter so i could have enough to pass through the 1/4...
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St. Jude Donor '08
i am a noob at all this so my launch technique is odd...on that run i got up to the line..reved it and just listened...odd enough i didn't look at the rpm...i went by the sound of my car....haha...i would assume it was about 2500rpm...
i think rev limiter is at 6800 or 6850...i only had to go into 4th...i was crossing the 1/4 almost at redline in 4th every run...
i shifting about 6850rpm...as close as i could to rev limiter so i could have enough to pass through the 1/4...
i think rev limiter is at 6800 or 6850...i only had to go into 4th...i was crossing the 1/4 almost at redline in 4th every run...
i shifting about 6850rpm...as close as i could to rev limiter so i could have enough to pass through the 1/4...
What 17 M/T's? Must be the tall 305 DR's or the bias plys to stay out of 5th at that trap with 4:10's?
And it's not noob to not look at the tach, I hardly ever look at mine, I know the sound to listen for as I launch and go through the gears, I don't look at the tach either!
Can't watch the tach and the tree at the same time and chopping down the tree is 98% of a bracket race.
Last edited by Joe_G; Nov 16, 2008 at 10:10 PM.
Melting Slicks
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Cool - take the launch up higher and you'll get your 10 sec pass...I'm playing between 4k and 5k now with my new FAST, don't have it down yet.
What 17 M/T's? Must be the tall 305 DR's or the bias plys to stay out of 5th at that trap with 4:10's?
And it's not noob to not look at the tach, I hardly ever look at mine, I know the sound to listen for as I launch and go through the gears, I don't look at the tach either! Can't watch the tach and the tree at the same time and chopping down the tree is 98% of a bracket race.
What 17 M/T's? Must be the tall 305 DR's or the bias plys to stay out of 5th at that trap with 4:10's?
And it's not noob to not look at the tach, I hardly ever look at mine, I know the sound to listen for as I launch and go through the gears, I don't look at the tach either!
Can't watch the tach and the tree at the same time and chopping down the tree is 98% of a bracket race.i am running the bias ply MT ET Street 26x11.50 17.
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St. Jude Donor '08
The tall bias plys explain being able to stay in 4th at your traps. Do you have bias skinnys up front too? I had the bias plys but didn't like the wobbly feel up top, and I didn't want to go with skinnys so I got rid of them.
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That's ignorant if you're seriuos.
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Melting Slicks
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Well, don't forget, when you're going for a record run, don't worry about the tree - it doesn't affect your ET! Just get your revs set and go on a bright green.
The tall bias plys explain being able to stay in 4th at your traps. Do you have bias skinnys up front too? I had the bias plys but didn't like the wobbly feel up top, and I didn't want to go with skinnys so I got rid of them.
The tall bias plys explain being able to stay in 4th at your traps. Do you have bias skinnys up front too? I had the bias plys but didn't like the wobbly feel up top, and I didn't want to go with skinnys so I got rid of them.
no bias skinnies up front...i am running my stock 18" wheels and bfg kdw2's up front with the 17" wheels and MT ET Streets out back....i didn't get of the wobbly feel up top...only wobbly i got was shifting 1st to 2nd and a little after 2nd...it swayed a little but nothing to be worried or scared about...i had fronts set to 42psi and rears set at 17psi...
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Hardly ignorant. Ignorance would be to believe the fantasy that the fastest cars in the country, no matter the make, are all concentrated in NJ/NY at one track. It's a proven fact that that part of the country has outstanding weather conditions that provide fantastic density altitudes when compared to the rest of the country. High pressure seems to dominate that area. You're delusional if you believe your car would run the same times everywhere else. Come to Phoenix and try, you'll be slower by .4 secs and 3-4 mph on one of our best weather days compared to ATCO.
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Hardly ignorant. Ignorance would be to believe the fantasy that the fastest cars in the country, no matter the make, are all concentrated in NJ/NY at one track. It's a proven fact that that part of the country has outstanding weather conditions that provide fantastic density altitudes when compared to the rest of the country. High pressure seems to dominate that area. You're delusional if you believe your car would run the same times everywhere else. Come to Phoenix and try, you'll be slower by .4 secs and 3-4 mph on one of our best weather days compared to ATCO.
That's mighty bold of you to take that kind of liberty with everyone's hard earned track times.
I supposed all of the NHRA records of the likes of Eddie Hill, Kenny Bernstein or John Force should ALSO now be amended because some of them were accomplished at tracks other than Phoenix and/or one that YOU didn't approve of.
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So let's get this straight...if those who race at a track in NJ have an "alleged" unfair advantage and their results should be tossed out because they couldn't possibly duplicate those times in Phoenix then wouldn't it also hold true that the guy (or gal) who run's in Sacramento should ALSO have his times thrown out because they couldn't run those times in say, Denver?
That's mighty bold of you to take that kind of liberty with everyone's hard earned track times.
I supposed all of the NHRA records of the likes of Eddie Hill, Kenny Bernstein or John Force should ALSO now be amended because some of them were accomplished at tracks other than Phoenix and/or one that YOU didn't approve of.
That's mighty bold of you to take that kind of liberty with everyone's hard earned track times.
I supposed all of the NHRA records of the likes of Eddie Hill, Kenny Bernstein or John Force should ALSO now be amended because some of them were accomplished at tracks other than Phoenix and/or one that YOU didn't approve of.
Density altitude is a major factor in how a car runs (and even a plane's performance). (And I won't bother getting into the differences between a nitro methane forced induction race car and our corvettes).
I find it amusing that the guys that enjoy this fantastic DA deny it's existence, while those that suffer under horrible DA complain about it constantly (me included). lol
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i've raced in jersey 2 times, when i was running in the nmra, the east coast is ridiculous for fast times
d/a is just lower, especially this time of year, i've seen tracks hit -2000 ft before
d/a is just lower, especially this time of year, i've seen tracks hit -2000 ft before
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AirBus has a point that Atco/ Englishtown are 2 of the fastest tracks in the country. I raced at those tracks with my Super Pro 63 Nova for 13 years. I always found E-town to be slightly faster than Atco maybe .05-.10.. I also ran at Maple Grove in PA. at times and found that track to about .20 slower than the N.J. tracks, at least for me.
Since I now do my racing at Beech Bend in Ky.. I can't compare how I would run at the Jersey tracks. But I can give an example of how one Jersey racer runs when he goes to Beech Bend for the Forum CruiseIn drags. Before the last CruiseIn, MrMojo was running 12.5-12.6's at E-town. This past May MrMojo ran most of his runs in the low 13's before figureing out how to get a 12.9 out of his car...
We all know that great weather leads to great times, and being closer to sea level has it advantages as well....
Since I now do my racing at Beech Bend in Ky.. I can't compare how I would run at the Jersey tracks. But I can give an example of how one Jersey racer runs when he goes to Beech Bend for the Forum CruiseIn drags. Before the last CruiseIn, MrMojo was running 12.5-12.6's at E-town. This past May MrMojo ran most of his runs in the low 13's before figureing out how to get a 12.9 out of his car...
We all know that great weather leads to great times, and being closer to sea level has it advantages as well....
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Ok folks……..please take the DA and other issues like how this list is administered to PM/E-mail or another thread if you must............keep this thread on topic.
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A word about the rules, we abide by the forum rules. Zippen Zee who started the thread has given me the list to maintain. There will be no arguments only discussion! I will have any argumentive posts removed from the thread. If you ignore the forum rules, you will be subject to whatever actions the moderators decide as appropriate.
Ok folks……..please take the DA and other issues like how this list is administered to PM/E-mail or another thread if you must............keep this thread on topic.
PS, FWIW, a 1.49 60' in SC is a 1.49 60' in VA........but, I always post my DAs with my slips
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Drifting
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Joe, you run on MT DR's correct? What pressure do you run them at and what launch rpm do you use? Reason I ask is because I was getting some HORRBILE wheel hop on these DR's and am wanting to know how to correct it.
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St. Jude Donor '08
18 lbs. I launch around 5k, if I bog below 4k it's a 1.9 60 foot for me. Problem is now with my FAST I'm spinning at 5k and bogging at 4k so I need to work on it. My DR's are done though, I'm buying some new one should have them this weekend for our first Corvette Challenge at the new Palm Beach International.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Here are some more tips I follow www.rangeracceleration.com
If you have hp tuners I can show you a log, here's an old one, I doubt you can read it very well on here and I've gotten a lot faster since I copied this one. Actually this is pre-cam so I used to launch lower as you can see here.
Last edited by Joe_G; Nov 18, 2008 at 09:44 PM.
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I have HP-tuners and I log all of my passes. Do you have any recent passes logged? If so, would you pm them to me? My launch rpm was obviously too low as it was 3100rpm at its highest and it would almost stall the car onces the DR's bit. My logs showed rpms dropped to right at 1000 
. I was too afraid to launch any higher because of the hop. I am going to try 15~18lbs this weekend and a 4k rpm launch. Hopefully I won't have much hop and the rear will stay put lol.
. I was too afraid to launch any higher because of the hop. I am going to try 15~18lbs this weekend and a 4k rpm launch. Hopefully I won't have much hop and the rear will stay put lol.