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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SHOOTER 49
This thread and others just won't go away.
In conclusion, I would wonder how many people bought a C6 because they thought it would lay a ''whuppin' ''on a Z. I would suspect that most wanted a ride that was more refined and had features not available on the Z06---BUT WOULD RUN CLOSE TO IT.

Remember each buyer of a C6 could have spent LESS for a leftover Z06 and we chose not to do so. WE JUST DON'T CARE.
Amen to that brotha. Who gives a rat's ***? I had a C5 and wanted a step up, but I didn't want a C5 Z06 cause it was basically a rougher, faster C5. I love my Z51 C6...it's a keeper.

If someone loves their C5 Z06, he should keep it. I certainly don't snub my noses at them cause mine is newer. It's just a different Vette, just like a blue auto converible is to my red 6spd coupe.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by EB20003
Definitely. A Z06 is still a Z06 no matter how old it is. The original Z06s from the 60s, the RPO Z06 package first offered on ’63 models is quite collectable now.

Chevy made 199 Z06s during the 60s. Of those 199, many likely were used for play versus strictly racing as only 124 cars were delivered without radios and just 63 with the 36-gallon fuel tank - though the tank was a benefit only to long races.

I am quite sure that 43 years from now, the '01-'04 Z06 will be every bit as collectible as those early cars are now.
They probably will not be nearly as collectible as the early cars because of the numbers produced. But they will always be a performance legend and will always command a higher price than a base model.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RichieRich
Amen to that brotha. Who gives a rat's ***? I had a C5 and wanted a step up, but I didn't want a C5 Z06 cause it was basically a rougher, faster C5. I love my Z51 C6...it's a keeper.

If someone loves their C5 Z06, he should keep it. I certainly don't snub my noses at them cause mine is newer. It's just a different Vette, just like a blue auto converible is to my red 6spd coupe.
The thread might die, but the debate never will. It will continue to spring up elsewhere in one form or another. Sort of like the LT4 vs LS1 debate we saw following the intro of the C5.

As more performance modification options for the C6 appear it will wane as many of the people here will no longer be stock anyway.

Laron's example is that of a person who has been reading too many internet posts about 12.4 second Z06s. Dare I say it could be part of the reason why he ended up modifying the LS1 engine in his A4 C5, to an LS6 engine found in the Z06. He seems to be enamored with the Z06.

Of course those of us who have some experience drag racing, knowledge about torque curves, gearing....... know what kinds of results such a modification produced in an automatic with a 1600stall converter and 2.73 gears in it.

8297, 8635, 5683 are the production nbrs for the 02,'03, 04 Zs. Anyone who thinks that each purchaser, or even most purchasers, or even 50% of the purchasers, of those cars is capable of running a 12 second quarter mile with it is dreaming.

In fact, the guy doing all the talking about how much more powerful the Z06 is vs the C6........drives an automatic C5. And I doubt he could drive a Z to a 12 second time slip without a good bit of practice.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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Enough of this Z06 business. I have a set of 275-40-17 M/t drag radials mounted on WS6 wheels does anyone know if they will fit? How much do you think they will take off of the 60' times?
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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EB2003....

This was fun and I appreciate your courage in posting that 13.6....

If that dosent prove your an honest person not many things will....

But Im curios..What was your mph?

If you were 107 or 108 (typical C5 times) then your not gonna squeeze more than a 13.1 out of her bone stock...

If you were in the 112 range though...Im sure you'll get high 12's out of her with practice...

AND YES THE DEBATE WILL NEVER END....

Im just a die hard stock performance guy...I love to see what the vehicles do straight from the factory...It's almost like pitting manafactuer against manufactuer...

The C6 has some good things going for it and I can see why some people would prefer it over the C5Z...

But for someone like me who cares about going as fast as possible there would be no contest...

But I know most people arent like me and care about every tenth....Lots of people who buy these cars would be happy just knowing that there car dose 0-60 mph in 4 seconds...

And a C5 or Z or C6 is capable of hitting that standard...Then it comes to whats the newest and what looks the nicest to you...

The C6 is gonna win that catergory....Maybe not in the visual 50/50 Id say...But the interior is beautiful...

So I no what you guys are saying. The only reason I ever jump into these post is cas it makes me upset when I here people saying that there C6 is as fast as the Z....

Then I look at there best 1/4 mile and it's like 13.0 at 109

I can go post so many stock C5 guys times who had similar numbers.....That wouldnt even give a Z much of a run...

BUT YOU GUYS DID OPEN MY EYES SOME....THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE GETTING INTO THE 12'S BONE STOCK THEN I THOUGHT...AND IM HAPPY ABOUT THAT....

MAYBE LIKE YOU GUYS SAID WITH TIME WELL SEE SOME BETTER DRIVERS AND NUMBERS...MAYBE.....................
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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Here's the data base .. knock yourselves out!

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--...ag-Racing.html
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1955 BelAir
Here's the data base .. knock yourselves out!

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--...ag-Racing.html

Wow, thanks for the link BelAir. That will keep me busy for a while
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by zippin zee
Enough of this Z06 business. I have a set of 275-40-17 M/t drag radials mounted on WS6 wheels does anyone know if they will fit? How much do you think they will take off of the 60' times?
When I had my car dynoed last week, there was a 600HP SVT Cobra that would be coming in with a busted rear. To show you how small a world it is, I had just seen this car at the track 5 days prior and did not even realize that the guy had broken.

The guy was running the new Mickey Thompson Drag radial. Nice tire too. He was running them as his every day tire and had actually picked up a nail in one of them. It was a 17 inch tire mounted on Ford Cobra wheels.

I asked one of the mechanics if the tire would work on my car and he said that a 17 inch wheel would not clear my brakes. So FWIW, from the information I got last Wednesday, the answer is no.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EB20003
I asked one of the mechanics if the tire would work on my car and he said that a 17 inch wheel would not clear my brakes. So FWIW, from the information I got last Wednesday, the answer is no.
Have you seen how much clearance you have between your caliper and the wheel? If I'm not mistaken, you have the same rear brake setup as a C5 and the clearance with the 18" wheels is huge. I don't think it would be a problem. I have a friend who is installing the C6Z06 front brakes on his C5Z with the stock 17" wheels. I don't see how it would be a problem putting 17" on the rear. If you really want to do it, I wouldn't let some mechanic tell you it can't be done.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Just came back from Englishtown got to make two runs! A decent run and a really ugly one!

First run

26 lbs in rear tires
Sixty foot 2.136
330 5.581
1/8 mile 8.392
1/8 mph 88.80
1000 ft 10.784
¼ mile 12.833
Mph 109.44

I was spinning the tires off the line and having trouble keeping it straight out of the hole leaving at an idle.

For the second run

I figured I would reduce the tire pressure to 24 pounds and still leave at an idle. It was now dark and much colder. Two cars had broke and my car cooled off. Unfortunately, I was in the lane in which the car broke!

I blew the tires away smoking them as I looked at the wall then straightened it out and tried to get on it again

Sixty foot 2.804
331 8.459
1/8 mile 12.210
1/8 mph 72.81
1000 ft 14.936
¼ mile 17.157
Mph 102.02

There was another C6 who was running "No Time" but I had to leave to get my tire goop off the sides and *** end of my car before it hardened.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by laron
EB2003....

This was fun and I appreciate your courage in posting that 13.6....
How about at blistering 17.152 @ 102.2
Stuff happens.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy D
How about at blistering 17.152 @ 102.2
Stuff happens.
You might better check the odometer. I believe your back wheels may have traveled a half mile on that pass.
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Originally Posted by Tommy D
Just came back from Englishtown got to make two runs! A decent run and a really ugly one!

First run

26 lbs in rear tires
Sixty foot 2.136
330 5.581
1/8 mile 8.392
1/8 mph 88.80
1000 ft 10.784
¼ mile 12.833
Mph 109.44

I was spinning the tires off the line and having trouble keeping it straight out of the hole leaving at an idle.

For the second run

I figured I would reduce the tire pressure to 24 pounds and still leave at an idle. It was now dark and much colder. Two cars had broke and my car cooled off. Unfortunately, I was in the lane in which the car broke!

I blew the tires away smoking them as I looked at the wall then straightened it out and tried to get on it again

Sixty foot 2.804
331 8.459
1/8 mile 12.210
1/8 mph 72.81
1000 ft 14.936
¼ mile 17.157
Mph 102.02

There was another C6 who was running "No Time" but I had to leave to get my tire goop off the sides and *** end of my car before it hardened.

Woa, I thought my 2.55 60ft time was a record.

But you are right, you have to take the good with the bad.

Nice first run. Dude you are getting close to consistent 12s.

Didn't that 12.8x just move you up a notch on the list?
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Woa, I thought my 2.55 60ft time was a record.

But you are right, you have to take the good with the bad.

Nice first run. Dude you are getting close to consistent 12s.
Thanks, I really though I could get it to run quicker. The weather is getting too cold, too quickly and the car just over powers the stock tires. I really can not lower the tire pressure any more. My only other option would be to launch the car off at an idle and then get on it gradually.

I think that this may be it for this season and I'll try again next year.

BTW anyone else running their car ?
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Originally Posted by zippin zee
You might better check the odometer. I believe your back wheels may have traveled a half mile on that pass.

Actually, they were all over the sides, back, and wheel wells of the car
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I'm traveling this week, sitting in a hotel room with limited access to the web. I have to say that this thread has become quite friendly - THANKS!

Also, these last few about Tommys run have been funny as hell! Reminds me of my early runs at the track!
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Originally Posted by jschindler
I'm traveling this week, sitting in a hotel room with limited access to the web. I have to say that this thread has become quite friendly - THANKS!

Also, these last few about Tommys run have been funny as hell! Reminds me of my early runs at the track!
YUP, on occasion I can provide quite a bit of entertainment. This run was by far the most ugly. My previous ugly run was a sideways 13. 80 @108 smoking the tires down most of the quarter with my supercharged mustang in 94. That time all my buddies were there

This time I made a quick exit what blue Vette, did you see a Blue Vette.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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Here is a new set of times posted today in C6 Gen:

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I didn't pull any magizine numbers but I had a lot of fun and learned alot for next time...
Car - 2005 Z51 1SB MN6, Factory Supercars, 34 Psi front, 27 Psi rear
Atleast a 1/2 hr cool down between runs
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Temp - 60deg.
Bar - 29.6
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40 % humidity

1st run
Reaction .6619 ( BAD - I know)
60ft- 2.35
E/T 13.41 @ 107.4 MPH

2nd Run (Missed 3RD Gear)
Reaction .2780
60Ft- 2.32
E/T 13.92@ 106.1 MPH

3rd Run
Reaction .3101
60Ft - 2.29
E/T 13.25 @ 110.6 MPH


as a side note my girlfriend ran VERY Consistant 13.7's in her stock TA and our friend in his rail went 8.09!
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 1955 BelAir
My car is NOT stock .. LG Longtubes w/3" X-pipe, Corsa Sports, Halltech Stinger and tune by Jeremy Formato.

I was at the 'Corvette Challenge' race today .. and the 'bone stock' C5, with a well seasoned driver turned 13.9's all day. There were a couple of modded C5 ZO6's that have run mid 11's that could not get out of the low 12's.

My point is this .. the results are going to be as diverse as the drivers, cars, tracks and temps.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...87&forum_id=90

Correct, my car ran 12.98 Sat. night stock at 108. There are so many variables. Also, I am an auto w/3:15 gears.
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Ok, so we have a contest for the fastest.

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