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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
thats actually funny.



Uhh what list did I claim to be on or even want to be on?



the real question is why do you? Youve been a Callaway basher as long as I can remember. I think its funny how you talk so much about Vararam and being at the top of a list, especially when you have every single mod, sans internals, done to your car. Meanwhile the Callaway is a CAI and intake alone with full TM working against them. No tune. No headers. No gears. Stock cats. No pullies. No high stall converter. Not to mention you didn't even run at the same track they did.



RPO B2k 500+hp/700lbft from a nearly stock car. Not bad in my book.



Well Ive been here since 1999. I only average 1 more post a day than you. It seems you talk as much as I do.
thanks sometimes i get a good one in thats what makes it fun.

you didn't

i have never bashed Callaway most their cars and ideas are beautiful
if i had the cash and the deal was right id buy one. i personally dont like the new speedster but you cant please everybody all the time

my car has bolt/ons only stock internals

how do you define nearly stock 10lbs boost want to race in the 1/4

that one more post a day is used to bash vararam
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
Can I get the english version of that please?
Translation:

I love my emissions compliant ( ), modified car which I race and race at Atco (which is so far below sea level, trash floats when it mists), the fastest track around. I say it is close to stock (with only a 1/2 doz. items) and if I had an LS3, I would already be on the top of the list.

Because you do not have a C6 (you C4 degenerate ), you could never know or experience what I know. That is just not possible.
Someguys have got a handle on this new language, but I had to type it with one finger, can you guess which one, Surf?????
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
Apparently you don't read much....including the rest of this thread.

So far the Honker on the LS3 is out performing everyone else as a single mod with DR's.


Someguys appreciate bringing facts back into this thread. Good stuff!
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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Someguys appreciate bringing facts back into this thread. Good stuff!
it would be nice if it was true.
but your facts are wrong! atco is above sea level, have ran better at etown. this signature is the only real fact
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SomeGuy
Someguys appreciate bringing facts back into this thread. Good stuff!
Only reason, nobody was running a Vararam at that track that day
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bunk22
Only reason, nobody was running a Vararam at that track that day
so true Chris now thats a fact back into the thread.
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bunk22
Only reason, nobody was running a Vararam at that track that day
Seems that there have been plenty of time to change the fact that the Honker ran the numbers, making it the best.

Surely, if it could be done (without the laundry list of other bolt-on parts claimed as "stock") then I am sure it would have

Looking at the list, MCV seems to run pretty quick with his car(s) and the apparent honesty of the level of modifications sounds a whole lot better than saying a convertor doesn't "help" with an e.t.

But hey, let's not continue debating time slips. This thread is about quality, or lack thereof
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SomeGuy
Seems that there have been plenty of time to change the fact that the Honker ran the numbers, making it the best.

Surely, if it could be done (without the laundry list of other bolt-on parts claimed as "stock") then I am sure it would have

Looking at the list, MCV seems to run pretty quick with his car(s) and the apparent honesty of the level of modifications sounds a whole lot better than saying a convertor doesn't "help" with an e.t.

But hey, let's not continue debating time slips. This thread is about quality, or lack thereof
hears some more bad facts where does anyone say a converter doesnt help. it was said equalize, doesnt that mean helps. heres another i dont claim to be stock and callaway isnt either, and with all my mods the Callaway LS3 puts down more rwhp and rwtq than my LS2, now thats a fact
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SomeGuy
Seems that there have been plenty of time to change the fact that the Honker ran the numbers, making it the best.

Surely, if it could be done (without the laundry list of other bolt-on parts claimed as "stock") then I am sure it would have

Looking at the list, MCV seems to run pretty quick with his car(s) and the apparent honesty of the level of modifications sounds a whole lot better than saying a convertor doesn't "help" with an e.t.

But hey, let's not continue debating time slips. This thread is about quality, or lack thereof
The only way to settle it is same day, same track, VR vs the rest. If any vendor wants to prove their cai is the quickest, they have to bring down the best and thats VR. That way the same conditions for both cars. Running at a fast track (good prep with good air) will give better times stock than cars with headers and cai at a poor track in bad air. Of course it is what it is so we simply put the cars in order of times. The best way to look at it is what one gained, hopefully back to back with their cai over stock. The VR has been established as the one to beat.

If we are talking quality, well, VR probably isn't going to win that race.
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
hears some more bad facts ......

Yes calling a high stall converter an "equalizer" is bad facts. You must not know how they work or you wouldn't see it that way.

Originally Posted by bunk22
The only way to settle it is same day, same track, VR vs the rest.
Hmmm When did a VR on a pure stock LS3 best Callaway's time? If it hasn't then it hasn't been proven.
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim_H
Why am I putting words in your mouth?
Dude you need to get your short term memory loss checked out.
I always check stuff, its what i do, and as far as i am concerned, if the install was done right, that would have never happen. Oh and by the way i am typing with the same finger.
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
Yes calling a high stall converter an "equalizer" is bad facts. You must not know how they work or you wouldn't see it that way.



Hmmm When did a VR on a pure stock LS3 best Callaway's time? If it hasn't then it hasn't been proven.
off course it is an equalizer for the manual. manual, come off starting line higher rpm. high stall converter, come off starting line higher rpm
if it has any air intake other than stock its not stock. when did the callaway ls3 beat the pure stock ls2 when did the callaway bolt/on ls2 or ls3 beat my 11.14
http://www.cartek.net/videos/Dennis1114.wmv
theirs my video as much resource's that callaway has wheres theirs
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony B4
I always check stuff, its what i do, and as far as i am concerned, if the install was done right, that would have never happen. Oh and by the way i am typing with the same finger.
Why not take the other finger out of your nose (or where ever its stuck) and type with both
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
off course it is an equalizer for the manual. manual, come off starting line higher rpm. high stall converter, come off starting line higher rpm
if it has any air intake other than stock its not stock. when did the callaway ls3 beat the pure stock ls2 when did the callaway bolt/on ls2 or ls3 beat my 11.14
http://www.cartek.net/videos/Dennis1114.wmv
theirs my video as much resource's that callaway has wheres theirs
When Callaway beats that then i will listen And Dennis will probrably beat their 550 package too, with just bolt ons.

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Regarding the gasket issue, the VR is supposed to be installed into the car with the upper and lower pieces already put together. My question is, what about normal cleaning of the filter? Are you supposed to take the entire unit out including the bottom piece? If so, that's not a very good design. If not, how is that different from installing the bottom first and then attaching the top piece after the bottom piece is in? The seal will be broken every time you take it apart to clean the filter. I'm a little confused.
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
off course it is an equalizer for the manual. manual, come off starting line higher rpm. high stall converter, come off starting line higher rpm
if it has any air intake other than stock its not stock. when did the callaway ls3 beat the pure stock ls2 when did the callaway bolt/on ls2 or ls3 beat my 11.14
http://www.cartek.net/videos/Dennis1114.wmv
theirs my video as much resource's that callaway has wheres theirs

When did gears and a high stall converter become a bolt on part? Are stroker motors, turbo kits, and nitrous considered bolt on too b/c they use bolts?

Stab and steer is good for you.
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
Hmmm When did a VR on a pure stock LS3 best Callaway's time? If it hasn't then it hasn't been proven.
So we are only talking about LS3 motors? Do you even run your car, don't see your times listed? The point is, the gains are usually 3-4 mph with the VR over stock. What are the gains with the others over stock? We aren't talking the best times, we've already concluded that it's apples and oranges. If we want to go there, the fastest car on that list has less power with the VR. It's about gains over stock and from what I've seen, it's the VR. If another cai wants to prove em wrong, race em at the track...time for a shootout.

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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
When did gears and a high stall converter become a bolt on part? Are stroker motors, turbo kits, and nitrous considered bolt on too b/c they use bolts?

Stab and steer is good for you.
i dont make the rules. i play by them, the bolt/on rules were around before i got on the list. do you want to race your callaway car in the 1/4
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
i dont make the rules. i play by them, the bolt/on rules were around before i got on the list. do you want to race your callaway car in the 1/4
Gears and a TC are not considered bolt ons.

wanna race yours in a standing mile?
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
Gears and a TC are not considered bolt ons.

wanna race yours in a standing mile?
hell yea my car still hits 210 in the



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