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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Where is the best place to buy and what should you pay for the tool ?(magnet)
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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The C6 does not use a magnet. It uses a transmitter that has to be told to resend it's code to the car, assuming you're using new transmitters that didn't come from the factory with the car.

Search is your friend. Expect to pay around $140 (IIRC) if you buy your own. My local tire store charged me 20 bucks.

To get the car into learn mode, depress lock and unlock simultaneously on your fob while the car is in ACC mode.

Then go around: LF, RF, RR, LR, and have each TPMS send it's signal using the little computer tool. Your horn will chirp each time.

Drive away happy!
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Thanks... searching now
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Bought Mine from Wright Tools!
$140.00,I'll try and find the phone # if You need it.
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 1bdasvt
Bought Mine from Wright Tools!
$140.00,I'll try and find the phone # if You need it.
1bdasvt.......... What brand did you get?
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman57
1bdasvt.......... What brand did you get?
Bartec,it's suppose to be very simple to use!
Talk to Jim at Wright Tool,800-783-9826 x194,,,,tell Him George sent You!

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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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I suggest you PM BEZ06...he's the resident expert on TPMS tools. I got a Schrader-Bridgeport tool from him some time back. I've heard Wright Tools is also a good source.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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I don't have any TPMS reset tools right now.

The Bartec Trackside is a great tool. It's very simple, and works great with our simple C6 sensors, which only require a continuous wave transmission from the tool. The Trackside is designed to only work on the C6 (and they have a Viper model and a Mustang model).

As of last September with the 2008 model year, Federal Law requires ALL 4-wheeled vehicles less than 10,000 lbs to have sensors and a TPMS.

With all the different sensors, the manufacturers have built them to require various different coded/pulsed transmissions from the tool to trigger all the different sensors. Even though the Trackside can be purchased for around $140 plus shipping, you might like to spend a little more to work with the sensors on your othe vehicles so when you rotate the tires on your wife's car you can reset the TPMS.

Most of these universal tools go for $325 and up on that popular auction website, but sometimes you can find one for down around $200 or so.

I do have a set of brand new sensors for $30 each.

Bob

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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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If you have a programmer, I wonder if you can use aftermarket sensors to work with the car?
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
If you have a programmer, I wonder if you can use aftermarket sensors to work with the car?
Our sensors are made by Schrader.

When they are sold through GM they are a dark gray color and have the GM Part# (25758220) molded into the case.






The only "aftermarket" sensor that will work with the C6 is the exact same sensor sold by Schrader or other sources that distribute the Schrader sensors directly from them. That sensor looks exactly the same as the GM sensor, but is a red color, and is Schrader Part# 20076.





So.....there is no "aftermarket" sensor and no way to program the TPMS to work with any other than the Schrader sensor distributed by GM or purchased directly from a Schrader distrubutor.

With the Federal Law that requires sensors and a TPMS in ALL cars starting with 2008 model year an on, I believe Tire Rack and NAPA are starting to stock many of the Schrader sensors. Hopefully they'll be a little cheaper than the OE ones from a dealer.

Our forum vendors Gene Culley, Fichtner, and Bob's House Of Wheels have good prices on new sensors, and I think Bob has some of the red ones direct from Schrader.

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I was hoping a set of sensors from a truck or something would fit, they are dirt cheap on ebay.
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
I was hoping a set of sensors from a truck or something would fit, they are dirt cheap on ebay.
Nope.....at least nothing I know will work except the gray colored Schrader sensors sold by GM as part# 25758220 or the same sensor in the red color sold by sources that get them directly from Schrader as part# 20076.

All of the different sensors send out different digitized data streams, and nothing that I know of except those above will work with the C6.

Well.....a handful of very early 2005 C6's had a Schrader sensor that was GM Part# 10354988, but they are obsolete and I don't think there are any in the GM parts line anymore.

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thx, i need to figure what i want to do before i put my race tires on. Since I travel a long way to go races, I know I would have to carry spares. If thats the case, the tire in the trunk will definitely give me hell. Let me see what I can do, thanks
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
thx, i need to figure what i want to do before i put my race tires on. Since I travel a long way to go races, I know I would have to carry spares. If thats the case, the tire in the trunk will definitely give me hell. Let me see what I can do, thanks
Well....I've got a set of brand new sensors for $30 each + $3 shipping.

That's not dirt cheap, but it's the cheapest new C6 sensors on the planet.

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Originally Posted by 1bdasvt
Bartec,it's suppose to be very simple to use!
Talk to Jim at Wright Tool,800-783-9826 x194,,,,tell Him George sent You!
I used that one also and it worked perfectly.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BEZ06
Our forum vendors Gene Culley, Fichtner, and Bob's House Of Wheels have good prices on new sensors, and I think Bob has some of the red ones direct from Schrader.

Bob
You forgot fourm vendor Fred Beans Parts. Actually when I went looking for them, Fred Beans had the best price of all the vendors, but nowhere near your rock bottom $30.00 price. Now for C6 sensors....that is indeed dirt cheap!
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How good is the Bartec tool anyway? For $120, it seems hard to beat unless someone has a cheaper way. What other car does it work for?
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
How good is the Bartec tool anyway? For $120, it seems hard to beat unless someone has a cheaper way. What other car does it work for?
The Bartec Trackside is a great tool - but it only works on the C6 (and they have a Viper version and a Mustang version). Check out:

http://www.bartecusa.com/products.html

The Trackside is the first tool shown on the website above.

The 2nd tool, the Tech 300, is a MUCH better tool. The Tech 300 is a completely universal tool that will work ALL sensors that require a radio frequency transmission to trigger them, and it's upgradeable for free as new sensors come out with new triggering protocols. It can usually be found on that popular online auction website for around $350. Keep on the lookout and you'll see them (or other universal tools such as the TIPS/KTi) for down around $200 to $250 from time to time.

By Federal Law, starting with the 2008 model year, ALL 4-wheeled vehicles under 10,000 lbs must have sensors and a TPMS. So....even though it costs more, you might like to get a universal tool if you can find one for low $200's.

BTW, the cheapest price I know of for the Trackside is about $150 ($140 + shipping).

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This is odd. I can not figure out why on my 07 Saturn Aura to get the sensors relearned when I rotated my tires all I had to do was get it in the learn mode then lower the air pressure a bit and the horn sounded. Then go to the next tire and drop it a few pounds, etc, etc. This was the procedure in the owners manual!
So on my 08 Corvette I have to buy a tool!!!
It seems like the magnet method is just getting the sensor to send a signal, so now I'm wondering if just lowering the tire pressure will do the same?
Anyone tried it? No need for me to do it yet.
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Originally Posted by RxCritical
This is odd. I can not figure out why on my 07 Saturn Aura to get the sensors relearned when I rotated my tires all I had to do was get it in the learn mode then lower the air pressure a bit and the horn sounded. Then go to the next tire and drop it a few pounds, etc, etc. This was the procedure in the owners manual!
So on my 08 Corvette I have to buy a tool!!!
It seems like the magnet method is just getting the sensor to send a signal, so now I'm wondering if just lowering the tire pressure will do the same?
Anyone tried it? No need for me to do it yet.
The C6 sensors require a radio frequency transmission from a TPMS reset tool. Our Schrader sensors only require the simplest transmission - a 5 to 7 second continuous wave transmission of the 125 kHz VLF (Very Low Frequency) signal. Many sensors on other vehicles require sort of a Morse code pulsed/coded signal to trigger them.

The C5 sensors are triggered by a magnet, and the sensors on other vehicles can be triggered by the air pressure change method you mention, but not the C6 sensors.

The only thing I know of that will trigger the C6 sensors is the transmission from the tool. Well....if you have a VERY early '05 you might be able to use a magnet. A handful of the early '05's built before about August '04 had a sensor that, like the C5, was triggered by a magnet. I've had several dealers do a GM parts distribution search for me and they say there are none left in the system. If you put the part# in a parts search website it comes up with "obsolete part#, superceded by part# 25758220", which is the current sensor that requires the 125 kHz signal to trigger it.

So......you need the tool.

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