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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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My guru tuner, Member Tom Wong with his own shop and dyno with great knowledge says mines OFF. It drives that way with no way to use the power, The computer does not seem to be cutting anything.
My visit to the track was greeted with massive spin and some wheel hop pasting second too hard. Sent me staight to the wall almost totaled the car and the track. I know better than to do much on the line as off idle
slip the clutch slow step toward the floor then easy shift and the Car
opens up hard. I'm looking at Drag radials. My 2.016 sixty still pulling 11's @120 supports my 433 on the Dyno Jet. Dam good for an ls-3 with headers and Vararam
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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Once you get the 60ft down, you got low-mid 11`s all day.

I bet your MPH will also come up too, with a better 60ft.

As far as TM goes, i believe TM can be removed from the manuals, but not from the autos. Autos have TM removed on the shifts but not on the launch.

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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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I've got TM removed from my car for the shifts as well as the launch.

I was getting what appeared to be TM when I launched the car as my spark advance would drop by up to 20 degrees. I was however able to tune it out so that now when I launch, it only drops by one or two degrees at most.
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
My guru tuner, Member Tom Wong with his own shop and dyno with great knowledge says mines OFF. It drives that way with no way to use the power, The computer does not seem to be cutting anything.
My visit to the track was greeted with massive spin and some wheel hop pasting second too hard. Sent me staight to the wall almost totaled the car and the track. I know better than to do much on the line as off idle
slip the clutch slow step toward the floor then easy shift and the Car
opens up hard. I'm looking at Drag radials. My 2.016 sixty still pulling 11's @120 supports my 433 on the Dyno Jet. Dam good for an ls-3 with headers and Vararam
Did you leave AH on, in comp mode? Spinning the wheels at 55mph CAN get your attention.

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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
My guru tuner, Member Tom Wong with his own shop and dyno with great knowledge says mines OFF. It drives that way with no way to use the power, The computer does not seem to be cutting anything.
My visit to the track was greeted with massive spin and some wheel hop pasting second too hard. Sent me staight to the wall almost totaled the car and the track. I know better than to do much on the line as off idle
slip the clutch slow step toward the floor then easy shift and the Car
opens up hard. I'm looking at Drag radials.
Drag radials will definitely help reduce that wheel spin problem (and hopefully the wheel hop problem as well) but that doesn't necessarily mean that this new found grip/traction won't suddenly invoke more TM again.
Your sixty foots will come down for sure though, then ya have the stock clutch to worry about.
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Originally Posted by thesubfloor
I've got TM removed from my car for the shifts as well as the launch.

I was getting what appeared to be TM when I launched the car as my spark advance would drop by up to 20 degrees. I was however able to tune it out so that now when I launch, it only drops by one or two degrees at most.
Nice, your sixty foots should be stellar then.
Though I know you might've had some other issues keeping them from really shining through.
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Nice, your sixty foots should be stellar then.
Though I know you might've had some other issues keeping them from really shining through.

On Friday night my best 60ft time was 1.784 which is pretty good considering my drag radials have over 100 passes on them.

They do help with the wheelspin but as you can see from one of my logs, I do still get some during the 1-2 and 3-4 shift (as shown by the green line in the topmost chart):

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I got the retard at launch as well, moreso with the drs I tried a few months ago, but my tuner did the tweaks like you speak of to reduce that hinderance. I can't wait to get to the track again to see how well I can make the MT drs work. Last time there, my trans shifted so hard on the 2-3 that I broke traction and had to abort a few runs on the PS2s. Breaking traction and getting AH to hit at mid 1/4 mile track at near 98-100MPH....now that'll get your attention.
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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I got the retard at launch as well, moreso with the drs I tried a few months ago, but my tuner did the tweaks like you speak of to reduce that hinderance. I can't wait to get to the track again to see how well I can make the MT drs work. Last time there, my trans shifted so hard on the 2-3 that I broke traction and had to abort a few runs on the PS2s. Breaking traction and getting AH to hit at mid 1/4 mile track at near 98-100MPH....now that'll get your attention.
I hear ya - I break traction so often that I've gotten used to it.

I also had a similar experience at 106MPH when there was somebody who spilled something towards the end of the track. At first I just thought it might have been my transmission exhibiting a flare-up between shifts but when I came around and looked at my scan I realized what had actually happened. Scary!
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thesubfloor,

If TM was removed on the launch, wouldn`t you be cutting 1.4-1.5 60fts with your power?

The best i have cut to date is a 1.72 60ft.
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If TM was removed on the launch, wouldn`t you be cutting 1.4-1.5 60fts with your power?

The best i have cut to date is a 1.72 60ft.
I only wish I could pull that kind of 60ft but at 417RWHP, I'm putting out numbers that are only marginally more than stock.

I think the reason that my car is quick is due more to the gears and stall converter than horsepower.
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Originally Posted by thesubfloor
I only wish I could pull that kind of 60ft but at 417RWHP, I'm putting out numbers that are only marginally more than stock.

I think the reason that my car is quick is due more to the gears and stall converter than horsepower.
I wouldn`t put all my cards in the dyno numbers, you did run 11.48@123mph.

I think your 60ft has alot of room for improvement...There has to be TM there in your launch. Just my .02
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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all i know is im just a little LS2 bolt/on and have seen 1.4s 60 fts and if tm is trully off on the launch, you should have better then my 1.4s and1.5s because i know mines not off
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does torque management ONLY intervene when there is tire spin? I notice my power delivery in my 08 MN6 is "inconsistant" at times even with the same water temps and ambient temps, feels like the ECU is doing something to reduce power sometimes, but a loss of traction hasn't occured
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I wouldn`t put all my cards in the dyno numbers, you did run 11.48@123mph.

I think your 60ft has alot of room for improvement...There has to be TM there in your launch. Just my .02
Was your best 60ft on drag radials or run flats?

According to what I've seen in my tune the TM is turned off but I'll shoot my tuner an e-mail to see if either something was missed or if there really is no way to turn it off on a launch. I do know that without a decent burnout I don't notice any hesitation and can spin the tires halfway down the track.
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all i know is im just a little LS2 bolt/on and have seen 1.4s 60 fts and if tm is trully off on the launch, you should have better then my 1.4s and1.5s because i know mines not off
What tire/psi combo are you running?

My times were with 275/40 MT Street ET radials.
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bfgs p295x35x18 anywere from 21.5 -26 lbs depending on track prep and out side temp
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bfgs p295x35x18 anywere from 21.5 -26 lbs depending on track prep and out side temp
I think my low numbers might be partially attributable to the track which is actually kind of sloppy. Were your numbers with or without VHT having been sprayed?

I've also raced at Infineon a few times and have been able to pull slightly better numbers than I have at Sacramento.
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with good track prep and with no track prep, in the lanes the street tire cars tore up the track in on hot days and freezing cold days, on very humid and on damp days from 4 days rain straight, at 10 oclock at night cold damp and moisture on the windows and fenders. it will run 1.5s by adjusting air pressure and burnout, very consistant mt streets are suppose to be better
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with good track prep and with no track prep, in the lanes the street tire cars tore up the track in on hot days and freezing cold days, on very humid and on damp days from 4 days rain straight, at 10 oclock at night cold damp and moisture on the windows and fenders. it will run 1.5s by adjusting air pressure and burnout, very consistant mt streets are suppose to be better
Makes me wonder why I can't run better times then, although it might have something to do with the fact I blew up my transmission that Friday night and it's at the dealership getting a new valve body as we speak.
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