My C6 handles a better than my C5 did. I could tell right away. What exactly is wrong with the handling of your C6?
geometry change from c5 z to c6?
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geometry change from c5 z to c6?
Pick up points, control arms rack location or spindles different? Other than longer wheelbase? If so, how?
My c5 was so sweet, and c6 is one of the worst handling cars I've driven
My c5 was so sweet, and c6 is one of the worst handling cars I've driven
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Do you have a base C6? If so, than your C5Z did have better handling. You need to upgrade the sway bars to the Z51 sways or ZO6 sways. That will make a big difference.
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I would agree that calling the C6 one of the worst handling cars is a bit childish, and is why I didn't respond to the original post.
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He said C5 Z in the title. I actually did a search and there are a few that prefer the handling of the C5Z over the C6. Some of the discussions were on this forum.
I would agree that calling the C6 one of the worst handling cars is a bit childish, and is why I didn't respond to the original post.
San
I would agree that calling the C6 one of the worst handling cars is a bit childish, and is why I didn't respond to the original post.
San
If he has the base C6, then yes the C5Z is a lot better. That is why he should upgrade the sway bars for a big improvement.
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not childish, serious question
Same person who won 9 straight prosolos in SS, in 3 different c5z's , cant keep up with F stock in the c6z.
call me really frustrated.
the car plows through any radius turn, has very little rear brakes so you cant trail brake it in, has no engine backtorque to help it turn in due to the tall gearing, and yet it skitters the tail out in just about any transition.
it is always either plowing or drifting, whereas in most any other car, and certainly in any c5z, I can keep the car very neutral through any transition or radius turn with no such issues.
the next thing i am going to try is to put c5z shocks, bars and tires on it, because the spring rates arent too much different. in theory if the pick up points are the same it should then handle exactly like a c5z.
I thought the spindles, control arms, etc. were the same or at least interchangeable.
but before i bother i want to understand how this car could possibly be so bad when the c5 was so good, and I want to know if the geometry is different.
if anyone has any info please help.
Same person who won 9 straight prosolos in SS, in 3 different c5z's , cant keep up with F stock in the c6z.
call me really frustrated.
the car plows through any radius turn, has very little rear brakes so you cant trail brake it in, has no engine backtorque to help it turn in due to the tall gearing, and yet it skitters the tail out in just about any transition.
it is always either plowing or drifting, whereas in most any other car, and certainly in any c5z, I can keep the car very neutral through any transition or radius turn with no such issues.
the next thing i am going to try is to put c5z shocks, bars and tires on it, because the spring rates arent too much different. in theory if the pick up points are the same it should then handle exactly like a c5z.
I thought the spindles, control arms, etc. were the same or at least interchangeable.
but before i bother i want to understand how this car could possibly be so bad when the c5 was so good, and I want to know if the geometry is different.
if anyone has any info please help.
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What else have you driven other than the C5 which is a great car. I think you're the first person I've heard to say the C6 handles poorly. Everyone else on the planet seems to love it. What in particular don't you like?
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not childish, serious question
Same person who won 9 straight prosolos in SS, in 3 different c5z's , cant keep up with F stock in the c6z.
call me really frustrated.
the car plows through any radius turn, has very little rear brakes so you cant trail brake it in, has no engine backtorque to help it turn in due to the tall gearing, and yet it skitters the tail out in just about any transition.
it is always either plowing or drifting, whereas in most any other car, and certainly in any c5z, I can keep the car very neutral through any transition or radius turn with no such issues.
the next thing i am going to try is to put c5z shocks, bars and tires on it, because the spring rates arent too much different. in theory if the pick up points are the same it should then handle exactly like a c5z.
I thought the spindles, control arms, etc. were the same or at least interchangeable.
but before i bother i want to understand how this car could possibly be so bad when the c5 was so good, and I want to know if the geometry is different.
if anyone has any info please help.
Same person who won 9 straight prosolos in SS, in 3 different c5z's , cant keep up with F stock in the c6z.
call me really frustrated.
the car plows through any radius turn, has very little rear brakes so you cant trail brake it in, has no engine backtorque to help it turn in due to the tall gearing, and yet it skitters the tail out in just about any transition.
it is always either plowing or drifting, whereas in most any other car, and certainly in any c5z, I can keep the car very neutral through any transition or radius turn with no such issues.
the next thing i am going to try is to put c5z shocks, bars and tires on it, because the spring rates arent too much different. in theory if the pick up points are the same it should then handle exactly like a c5z.
I thought the spindles, control arms, etc. were the same or at least interchangeable.
but before i bother i want to understand how this car could possibly be so bad when the c5 was so good, and I want to know if the geometry is different.
if anyone has any info please help.
I haven't driven a C5Z, let alone a C5. My C6 is my first Corvette, and while it handles differently than my other car, I couldn't put it in a "worst handling" category, and mine is the base model (coilovers staring me in the face as we speak).
When I saw your post I looked at your profile to verify you weren't a troll, as it seemed harsh. Sorry to hear you're not happy with the handling. Hopefully some of the gurus here can help.
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I had a C5 Z06 50th Anniversary Edition with 18000 miles, drove it across the country, put about 8K miles on it, couldn't stand the way it felt: it was too long and it was hard to determine where the handling limits were. It felt more like a big powerboat than a sportscar.
Bought a C6 and haven't looked back since. My C6 Z51 is better in every single possible way and even if you didn't like the C6 for one reason or another, you better have driven nothing but race cars and exotics to make as idiotic a statement as to say that it is one of the worse handling cars you've ever driven.
Either that or you are a troll. I'm thinking the latter.
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What are your alignment settings? You have to get a little tricky with the alignment to make the C6Z autocross well on stock size wheels and tires. If you are ASP what wheels tires are you using?
The c5-c6 are quite different according to the NCM.
"Suspension. None of the suspension bits has been carried over from C5. The short-long arm and transverse leaf spring independent suspension configuration remains, but the cradles, control arms, knuckles, springs, dampers, bushings, stabilizer bars, and steering gear are all redesigned. "
The c5-c6 are quite different according to the NCM.
"Suspension. None of the suspension bits has been carried over from C5. The short-long arm and transverse leaf spring independent suspension configuration remains, but the cradles, control arms, knuckles, springs, dampers, bushings, stabilizer bars, and steering gear are all redesigned. "
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well i intended to run SS... but i am really slow so far, uniquely slow in this car.
i may go to ASP, as part of the problem is front brake bias and not enough front tire; my plan was essentially to use c5 shocks and bars, with the same wheels rod is running on.
however, that logic is flawed if the pick up points and spindles are different.
i bought the car having read that they were the same; thus thinking it would solo like a c5, save for bar and wheel changes. not so.
i still really want to know the dimensional differences between c5 and c6. the c6 shop manual does not even show frame dimensions.
i may go to ASP, as part of the problem is front brake bias and not enough front tire; my plan was essentially to use c5 shocks and bars, with the same wheels rod is running on.
however, that logic is flawed if the pick up points and spindles are different.
i bought the car having read that they were the same; thus thinking it would solo like a c5, save for bar and wheel changes. not so.
i still really want to know the dimensional differences between c5 and c6. the c6 shop manual does not even show frame dimensions.