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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Default 638 HP LS9 Crate Engine WILL BE AVAILABLE

Not sure if this was posted already, but GM Performance Parts will be selling the crate engine in the fall of next year!! Check out the link below:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/28/s...-crate-engine/
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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That would be the mother of all mods to my '08!
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Wonder what the cost for that bad boy will be. Gene? Gene?
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Sweet but give me an APS kit (for more power) and the difference in cash.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
Sweet but give me an APS kit (for more power) and the difference in cash.
Moot point.


Put an APS kit on that LS9, then see where you're at.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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If it becomes available, it will be showcased at SEMA next week. I will be there and hopefully will see it there. No doubt it will most likely be the most expensive GM crate engine ever
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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it wont be that easy to install it

According to GM, the engine comes fully dressed, with an ignition system, exhaust manifolds and supercharger, and only needs an external oil tank and coolant tank (for the charge cooler), an ECU and wiring harness
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Originally Posted by C6 DVL
it wont be that easy to install it



It won't be that hard but it won't be a cake walk either. The LS9 takes a differenent PCM than the current LS7 cars, also it has a totally different fuel pump and pump control circuitry. It can be done, it won't be cheap but it is definitely do-able. All of the connectors and terminals are available so building a harness for a retrofit is not that hard, but it is time consuming.

I have already purchased a ZR1 instrument cluster and a PCM to play with The cluster should be relatively easy to drop in place as all of its signals comes to it via the CAN network communications from the PCM and BCM. Which lucky for us should talk easily seeing its on its own GM CAN network within the car.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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LS9 would be nice to have for a collector, but our Procharged LS2s are making more power than the Stock Blown LS9. It's the whole car concept that makes the ZR1 the "King". The LS9 is still an LS motor.
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LS9 would be nice to have for a collector, but our Procharged LS2s are making more power than the Stock Blown LS9. It's the whole car concept that makes the ZR1 the "King". The LS9 is still an LS motor.
Thats true, I just want the factory controls for boost! No more BS with dealing with aftermarking tuning solutions when its done with GM's multi-millions of dollars of R&D.
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Is the clutch available too? The crank has a greater number of bolts than the other LS engines requiring the use of the ZR1's clutch or at least it's flywheel.

Price is the next factor. A warrantied forged 6 liter with any S/C will be less than what GM wants for the current 427/LS7.

Still, the ZR1 is an amazing vehicle and it has a great engine.

For the lucky guy that drops that kind of green into a daily driver with a warranty and the new car scent, its all the best auto's have to offer.
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Is the clutch available too? The crank has a greater number of bolts than the other LS engines requiring the use of the ZR1's clutch or at least it's flywheel.

Price is the next factor. A warrantied forged 6 liter with any S/C will be less than what GM wants for the current 427/LS7.

Still, the ZR1 is an amazing vehicle and it has a great engine.

For the lucky guy that drops that kind of green into a daily driver with a warranty and the new car scent, its all the best auto's have to offer.
Spin the clutch is available, the crank has 9 bolts vs 6 bolts, and the pressure plate is several MM smaller in diameter. It would be nice if someone would come out with a LS7 flywheel that would accept the LS9 disc and pressure plate, it would be great to be able to use a GM LS9 clutch on our LS series engines seeing how there is so many problems with the aftermarket twin discs not to mention the shear expense.
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Originally Posted by tjwong
Spin the clutch is available, the crank has 9 bolts vs 6 bolts, and the pressure plate is several MM smaller in diameter. It would be nice if someone would come out with a LS7 flywheel that would accept the LS9 disc and pressure plate, it would be great to be able to use a GM LS9 clutch on our LS series engines seeing how there is so many problems with the aftermarket twin discs not to mention the shear expense.
If someone makes this LS7 flywheel that accepts the LS9 disc and pressure plate they would make a bundle !
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Originally Posted by FU
If someone makes this LS7 flywheel that accepts the LS9 disc and pressure plate they would make a bundle !
I am trying to talk to Fidanza to do this very exact thing, but so far they have not returned my calls
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The engine's easy, I want the ZR1 tranny! (At least the 5th & 6th gears!)
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Why buy the whole engine when GM will be selling the S/C for 3,500 retail?? I know what I'm waiting for.. Would be a hell of alot easier.
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Originally Posted by SlickShoes
Moot point.


Put an APS kit on that LS9, then see where you're at.

Yea, only $10-15K more

There are be FAR better choices (Turbo 402+'s) than an Eaton LS9
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Why buy the whole engine when GM will be selling the S/C for 3,500 retail?? I know what I'm waiting for.. Would be a hell of alot easier.
Correct, actually Kenne Bell's 2.8H would dominate that little Eaton and be a ton of fun for far less coin, as if that even matters with modding C6's. Turbos are far better.
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Originally Posted by tjwong
I am trying to talk to Fidanza to do this very exact thing, but so far they have not returned my calls
Tried e-mailing them. Maybe if we bombard them with e-mails etc. they'll get the hint
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