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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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CONGRATS...Your Cartek prepared LS2 with only bolt-on's is almost as fast as the Cartek's head and cam LS3 which just ran an incredible 10.63. How is this possible? The LS3 with Cartek heads and BIG cam is at least 100HP more than yours. You must have found a way to reduce the weight of your car by hundreds of pounds. Can't wait to see your car run..I'm very impressed!!!!
You'll never be able to launch a manual c6 as hard as an auto on sticky tires without the rear letting going auto vettes will always be faster at the track then manuals because you cant push them as hard. I dont need to hear the crap about i have a so and so rear in my car and it holds up...you just dont drag race enough or run on a sticky enough tire to push your car and the c5s rear must work better being mounted different for some reason. A good example is look at mustangs running 10.8-9s at a 120 mph then look at stock Zs running the same thing at 128mph the difference you can launch the f*** out of a straight drive stang the same launch would destroy a Vette....I'd like to see what a stock Z would run with an auto 3800 stall with 3.73.....mid 10s FTW Congrats Dennis put a nice H/C setup on it and lets see some nines.

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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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You'll never be able to launch a manual c6 as hard as an auto on sticky tires without the rear letting going auto vettes will always be faster at the track then manuals because you cant push them as hard. I dont need to hear the crap about i have a so and so rear in my car and it holds up...you just dont drag race enough or run on a sticky enough tire to push your car and the c5s rear must work better being mounted different for some reason.
I think you hit the nail right on the head.
I have seen far too many manual C6s bust various parts of their rears to even remember.
And yes, generally speaking the manual (and the 3.15 version of the automatic) C5 rears were/are much stronger, be it that they're mounted differently or even that the actual unit might be a more stout design.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Damn impressive run Dennis!!
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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Congrats once again Dennis and thanks for taking us along for the ride!!!!!!!! Awesome time!!!!!!
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Dennis, wicked run! Keep the thing bolt on and keep going. Super job.

I've got a Cartek C5 rear in mine and I've yet to push it hard. We'll see maybe this spring. I've got a nice trailer now

1.4x... simply amazing.
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Dennis, wicked run! Keep the thing bolt on and keep going. Super job.

I've got a Cartek C5 rear in mine and I've yet to push it hard. We'll see maybe this spring. I've got a nice trailer now

1.4x... simply amazing.
If I were Dennis I would keep the bolton setup which he has yet to realize its max potential with the recent changes. It must drive the H&C
guys crazy when they see his times & MPH.

I just dont see where the LS3 has proven itself even with boltons.
However Cams out of ECS & LG have done some magic on the LS3 cars.
Those cars are running with the Z's ??
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LSCHLEM
However Cams out of ECS & LG have done some magic on the LS3 cars.
We've done pretty well too.

http://www.cartek.net/videos/joechcls3.wmv

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We've done pretty well too.

http://www.cartek.net/videos/joechcls3.wmv

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thanks RJ and thanks Leon, i think i need 1 more good day then i got to go cam or h&c, Cartek has giving me a great package and helped me all the way, its great when a shop helps 100% all the way to the track to the end of the day, and the video too
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
thanks RJ and thanks Leon, i think i need 1 more good day then i got to go cam or h&c, Cartek has giving me a great package and helped me all the way, its great when a shop helps 100% all the way to the track to the end of the day, and the video too
Dennis, I dont blame you for wanting to change to something else. You
have been running a bolton car for a long time consistently breaking your own records. In the H&C world there has been some pretty wild
et's & MPH comming out of ECS & Cartek. They however have the LS3
or L92 base. It would be nice to see you retain the fast and Cartek
come up with a H&C combo to compliment what you got in spite of a
14 CU IN disadvantage from the get go. But then you have a way of comming out in front with disadvantages. Good luck in whatever you decide to do. Leon
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Originally Posted by LSCHLEM


I just dont see where the LS3 has proven itself even with boltons.
I tell ya what, you cover my route for a week or two, and I'll drive to Sacramento and wait for some good air, or better yet cover it for a few weeks, and I'll head to the east coast for some of their killer air. Then maybe the LS3 will be proven in your eyes...


Back to Dennis, that car would run well on any coast, but he would not see those #s on our tracks...
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but if i could find a +300 da or less it would still run 10.8s. if i was rich and had a trailer, i guess if i was rich i would already have the trailer i would have already been there
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LSCHLEM
Dennis, I dont blame you for wanting to change to something else. You
have been running a bolton car for a long time consistently breaking your own records. In the H&C world there has been some pretty wild
et's & MPH comming out of ECS & Cartek. They however have the LS3
or L92 base. It would be nice to see you retain the fast and Cartek
come up with a H&C combo to compliment what you got in spite of a
14 CU IN disadvantage from the get go. But then you have a way of comming out in front with disadvantages. Good luck in whatever you decide to do. Leon
thanks Leon, i will try my best
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
but if i could find a +300 da or less it would still run 10.8s. if i was rich and had a trailer, i guess if i was rich i would already have the trailer i would have already been there


And if I was rich, I'd have a trailer as well...

I'm still trying, but for now I gota go run the route.


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Originally Posted by jbsblownc5
I tell ya what, you cover my route for a week or two, and I'll drive to Sacramento and wait for some good air, or better yet cover it for a few weeks, and I'll head to the east coast for some of their killer air. Then maybe the LS3 will be proven in your eyes...


Back to Dennis, that car would run well on any coast, but he would not see those #s on our tracks...
I thaught a while back you would come east for some better air. Ive heard the DA argument for some time. I commend you on the new record for Man transmittion bolton. But remember in spite of the
atmospherics out there " You have the torco advantage"
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jbsblownc5
Back to Dennis, that car would run well on any coast, but he would not see those #s on our tracks...
And even though it's quite likely that you would ultimately run a new best (and possibly even hit the 10s), it's a pretty safe bet that you also wouldn't see his numbers out here either...it takes a lot more than just hopping into the car and making a quick pass or two to shave off nearly a full 7/10ths of ET, even for a stellar driver like yourself.
That colder air and 2000+ foot shift in DA comes with a whole new set of barriers and obstacles too, especially for a manual car.
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I can't figure out how it takes you ~3.9sec to cover the big end(660-1320) about the same as geared manual h/c ls2/3(atleast 100hp more than you) when both of y'all are "locked" in 1:1 gear before the end of the 1/8, didn't appear to be that much of a tail wind from the video...congrats tho, the car runs strong anyway you look at it!
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
didn't appear to be that much of a tail wind from the video...
True, there wasn't much wind at all in any direction there that day which is quite rare for this time of year at that track. When I ran my 11.83 there two weeks ago the head wind was a real pain in the butt.
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I can't figure out how it takes you ~3.9sec to cover the big end(660-1320) about the same as geared manual h/c ls2/3(atleast 100hp more than you) when both of y'all are "locked" in 1:1 gear before the end of the 1/8, didn't appear to be that much of a tail wind from the video...congrats tho, the car runs strong anyway you look at it!
i dont think im locked in to 1:1 unless the converter is locked which it wasnt, that 60 ft and converter multiplying tq is like a slingshot
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
i dont think im locked in to 1:1 unless the converter is locked which it wasnt, that 60 ft and converter multiplying tq is like a slingshot
I understand that the converter is multiplying torque on the launch, but I imagine it's locked (minimize slipping) once in third (1:1) which happens before you cross the 1/8 marker (assuming 3.73 and 26" tire) then from there to the traps is just sheer power accelerating you (~4700-6100 rpm)...just curious if you run any octane booster or meth injection?
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