Locked-out in Learn Mode
I then had trouble setting the third sensor. I went to open the driver’s door and discovered I was locked out of the car. The weird thing is my car is not programmed to lock automagically. I could see the DIC still said “accessory mode’” but I don’t think it was still in learn mode. Fortunately, I was home so I got my second fob and opened the locked car.
I guess I’ve always left the driver’s door open when in learn mode resetting the TPS’s before. Why would the car lock when I shut the door and would being in learn mode have anything to do with this? Could shutting the driver’s door and the car locking somehow terminate learn mode or does learn mode time-out after a few minutes in the absence of a signal? I don't think 2 or 3 minutes could have elapsed.
BEZ06….if you’re out there do you have any thoughts about this? It’s too late now but I may try to replicate this again on Monday.
The learn mode will time out if:
- A sensor ID is not sent to the TPMS within one minute of activating the learn mode
- A total of 5 minutes passes in the learn mode without completing the process
- The ignition is turned off
It doesn't sound as if any of those happened, unless closing the door did something like turning the ignition off.
Like you, I always leave the door open and the fob sitting on the console. There's always a chime dinging away, but I just put up with it and have never closed the door while in the learn mode.
Glad you had another fob or your key available!!
Bob
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The learn mode will time out if:
- A sensor ID is not sent to the TPMS within one minute of activating the learn mode
- A total of 5 minutes passes in the learn mode without completing the process
- The ignition is turned off
It doesn't sound as if any of those happened, unless closing the door did something like turning the ignition off.
Like you, I always leave the door open and the fob sitting on the console. There's always a chime dinging away, but I just put up with it and have never closed the door while in the learn mode.
Glad you had another fob or your key available!!
Bob

I have to run to the dentist and do some other things later but hopefully I'll have time to switch back to my street wheels this afternoon. Maybe I pressed the lock button accidently when going into learn mode but I'm going to try to replicate the same scenario to see if the lockout happens again. I just couldn't see any way being in learn mode (and closing the door) would engage the automatic lock feature. I'll let you know what happens.
Thanks for your replies.
Last edited by Wayne O; Jan 15, 2009 at 01:43 PM.
I repeat the entire procedure again but I do not close the door after setting the 2nd sensor...all the TPS's re-set without a hitch.
Bob/BEZ06 or anyone else with a C6 and a TPMS tool...would you please try what I did (closing the driver's door after setting the first 2 sensors) to see if the same thing happens to you or if I'm the anomaly.
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR SECOND FOB/KEY HANDY IN CASE YOU'RE LOCKED OUT.
Please let me know what happens. I sincerely appreciate your time and assistance.
Last edited by Wayne O; Jan 15, 2009 at 01:44 PM.
I had the EXACT SAME THING HAPPEN TO ME a month ago! Anyways, upon coming home, I contacted one of The Three Wise Men on the CF...Shopdog. Here is my story, his replies and a possible solution of making sure you passive locking disabled:I had an odd thing happen to me while out of town Drag racing at MIR. I use Drag radials and have a cannister I made under 35 psi pressure with two senors in it. I also have one of those TPMS tools. Anyways. I was taking my DR's off and putting my oem emt's back on ready to go home. I took out my TPMS tool to reset the tires and pressed those two buttons on the FOB to start the process. I left the FOB in the car with the drivers side door open. I was going around the car resetting the sensors and having a bit of problem on one tire. Irritated, I also got tired of hearing the chime from the door being opened so I closed it and continued resetting my tires.
To my surprise when done, the drivers door was locked with the FOB inside the car? Luckily this was not a major issue as I had that trunk key in my wallet and got in that way. But why did it lock the door on me? Thanks
It'll do that if you have passive locking set. When you open the door, the car starts issuing challenges to the fob, and uses triangulation on its responses to see if a fob has exited the car. If one has, it will perform the auto lock 8 seconds after the door is closed. If it doesn't see a fob leave the car before the door closes, it won't auto lock. However, it'll only challenge for the fob for a limited time, about a minute, before it gives up looking. If the door is still open after that, when you do eventually close the door, it'll auto lock even though you left the fob in the car. This is a quirk in the security programming.
Thanks much for taking the time to reply to me. I assume if I dont not have passive locking set, then I wont get locked out the car with the FOB inside the car and the door closed 3 minutes later?
Right. No passive lock, you won't be locked out. It won't lock unless you push the lock button on the fob
One last questiion-with passive lock on, does it automatically lock the doors after you enter the car and then close the door?
Passive locking isn't involved with the doors locking when you start to drive off. That's a different GM feature you can't defeat. Any time the car gets going faster than 8 MPH, the doors automatically lock.
Last edited by siffert; Jan 15, 2009 at 02:34 PM.
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I had the EXACT SAME THING HAPPEN TO ME a month ago! Anyways, upon coming home, I contacted one of The Three Wise Men on the CF...Shopdog. I really think you somehow still have passive locking set. I thought I didnt but I did. Here is my story and solution:I had an odd thing happen to me while out of town Drag racing at MIR. I use Drag radials and have a cannister I made under 35 psi pressure with two senors in it. I also have one of those TPMS tools. Anyways. I was taking my DR's off and putting my oem emt's back on ready to go home. I took out my TPMS tool to reset the tires and pressed those two buttons on the FOB to start the process. I left the FOB in the car with the drivers side door open. I was going around the car resetting the sensors and having a bit of problem on one tire. Irritated, I also got tired of hearing the chime from the door being opened so I closed it and continued resetting my tires.
To my surprise when done, the drivers door was locked with the FOB inside the car? Luckily this was not a major issue as I had that trunk key in my wallet and got in that way. But why did it lock the door on me? Thanks
It'll do that if you have passive locking set. When you open the door, the car starts issuing challenges to the fob, and uses triangulation on its responses to see if a fob has exited the car. If one has, it will perform the auto lock 8 seconds after the door is closed. If it doesn't see a fob leave the car before the door closes, it won't auto lock. However, it'll only challenge for the fob for a limited time, about a minute, before it gives up looking. If the door is still open after that, when you do eventually close the door, it'll auto lock even though you left the fob in the car. This is a quirk in the security programming.
Thanks much for taking the time to reply to me. I assume if I dont not have passive locking set, then I wont get locked out the car with the FOB inside the car and the door closed 3 minutes later?
Right. No passive lock, you won't be locked out. It won't lock unless you push the lock button on the fob
One last questiion-with passive lock on, does it automatically lock the doors after you enter the car and then close the door?
Passive locking isn't involved with the doors locking when you start to drive off. That's a different GM feature you can't defeat. Any time the car gets going faster than 8 MPH, the doors automatically lock.
Now I wonder how passive locking in silent mode came to be activated. I've never used this feature preferring to lock the car myself. The car has never locked automatically previously. I did have some work done to my car recently including using a Tech 2 tool to disable the F55 suspension. I don't see the connection but any time someone else works on your car, you never know.
It's too late now but I'll go into the personalization settings in the morning. Surprisingly, I expect I will find passive locking now enabled. I will disable it.
THANKS for sharing your experience and solving my mystery.
Last edited by Wayne O; Jan 15, 2009 at 01:44 PM.
Now I wonder how passive locking in silent mode came to be activated. I've never used this feature preferring to lock the car myself. The car has never locked automatically previously. I did have some work done to my car recently including using a Tech 2 tool to disable the F55 suspension. I don't see the connection but any time someone else works on your car, you never know.
It's too late now but I'll go into the personalization settings in the morning. Surprisingly, I expect I will find passive locking now enabled. I will disable it.
THANKS for sharing your experience and solving my mystery.
Last edited by siffert; Jan 15, 2009 at 02:36 PM.
just kidding!
How do I know it was? I never lock my car when it's parked in the garage. Countless times over the years (after the car sat overnight in the garage) I could always open the door without the fob.
When I use the Corvette I always carry the fob (with the car key and a house key) in the left front pocket of my jeans. I'm not one to leave the fob inside the car except when I reset the TPS's.Perhaps because I need the fob in my hands to engage learn mode (and knowing I have to get back in the car in a couple minutes to shut-down accessory mode) I just set the fob on top of the console and get out to reset the TPS's. This goes against my customary practice of always carrying the fob in my pocket but I've never had any problems in the past.
I agree it's not an ideal practice. Of course, I've never shut the driver's door mid-way through re-setting the sensors before nor did I ever have automatic door locking enabled (albeit it seems to be now). I honestly don't know how automatic door locking could have been enabled unless it was done by the shop where my car was for a couple weeks. I'm shutting-off automatic door locking and I will keep the fob with me (when re-setting TPS's) in the future.
Last edited by Wayne O; Jan 15, 2009 at 01:44 PM.
I checked my personalization settings yesterday and as I originally thought, my car is not setup for automatic door locking. This morning as always, the car I left unlocked remained unlocked...I opened the door without having the fob.
Accordingly, the original mystery remains. I'll consider it an anomaly. When re-setting the TPS's in the future, I'll keep the fob/key in my pocket and I won't shut the driver's door.

Thanks for everyone's help.

















