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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Your claim is not far fetched. Bad plugs or incorrectly gapped plugs do have an impact on power and efficiency. If nothing was disconnected/broken in the process, the surgin could be too lean/too rich a mixture as things inside the chambers have suddenly changed. Disconnect the battery to reset the PCM. Drive the car for a few hundred miles before re-tuning.

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hi Rick, i took your advise and the little bit of surging i had is now gone. i guess there will be no need for a re tune.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Whats the correct gap on the factory AC spark plugs? I wonder if mine were properly gapped at the dealer since they probably believe the box that says they're already gapped correctly.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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I worked at AutoZone while in college, there is no such thing as a pre-gaped plug; and going from bad to good plugs does make a difference.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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Greeting Major,

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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Glad it all worked out for you Dal, sounds like you were careful with the tips on the new plugs as well.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Whats the correct gap on the factory AC spark plugs? I wonder if mine were properly gapped at the dealer since they probably believe the box that says they're already gapped correctly.
the correct gap should be .040 on the original ac delco's (or any other brand for that matter). however i would be very surprised if you find any of them gapped properly based on what i experienced and from what others have been posting.

again, it is not a big deal but if we are going to spend tons of money for more power and better running cars why not do the simple, free things too.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Glad it all worked out for you Dal, sounds like you were careful with the tips on the new plugs as well.
i probably would not have been if i had not read another post where the guy had broken the very first two he tried to re gap. reading his post made me mindful of it and i was very gentle which is not my usual style. i always break stuff.. the tips on this new iridium plugs are nealy like pin heads. very thin!!
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Is there any instance where a tuner will purposefully gap plugs differently? Should they all be the same? Will different cylinders have diff gaps if tuned that way?????
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:20 AM
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Sounds like gapping is tricky. Does this require a special tool?? Im obviously no tech but would like to do this myself without making it worse.
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Originally Posted by SgtRod
Sounds like gapping is tricky. Does this require a special tool?? Im obviously no tech but would like to do this myself without making it worse.
I use gapping blades that belonged to my grandfather - he was a mechanic and they're at least 60 years old. Is there something more high-tech to use?
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Originally Posted by coletrickle
Is there any instance where a tuner will purposefully gap plugs differently? Should they all be the same? Will different cylinders have diff gaps if tuned that way?????
Engine builders have all sorts of different ideas on what works and what doesn't. Forced Induction requires a completely different gap and some real race engines do to. There are some builders that even will index the plug to position the gap to a desired position in the combustion camber. It all depends on how much time and effort you are willing to give. IF a race team has maxed out everything else, plugs can give them a edge and few more horsepower.

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PS back in the day, we did the dyno testing for the first split-fire plugs, a-hole still owes us money....
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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damn, I gotta check mine...I feel like I should be making more power with my mods than the dyno showed.

good thread.
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Originally Posted by DAL01
hi Rick, i took your advise and the little bit of surging i had is now gone. i guess there will be no need for a re tune.
tks, dal

Good deal! No matter how small the mod is, always reset the PCM.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy@DRM
Engine builders have all sorts of different ideas on what works and what doesn't. Forced Induction requires a completely different gap and some real race engines do to. There are some builders that even will index the plug to position the gap to a desired position in the combustion camber. It all depends on how much time and effort you are willing to give. IF a race team has maxed out everything else, plugs can give them a edge and few more horsepower.

Randy
PS back in the day, we did the dyno testing for the first split-fire plugs, a-hole still owes us money....

Randy,

Did the splitfires showed any gains over conventional?


Guys,

A plug change will only make a major difference if something is wrong with your current plugs. Don't expect a bunch of power from a simple plug swap.

Rick
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Good post. Thanks for sharing.
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Originally Posted by USAF-Vette
Randy,

Did the splitfires showed any gains over conventional?


Guys,

A plug change will only make a major difference if something is wrong with your current plugs. Don't expect a bunch of power from a simple plug swap.

Rick
Rick

Ive said this for years!!!!! Plugs degrade so slowly that we become use to the way the engine runs as they start to lose their newness.

When a new set of plugs are installed we IMMEDIATELY see a big improvement. Which is really most of the time back to original performance/ idle quality levels.

BC
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Originally Posted by USAF-Vette
Randy,

Did the splitfires showed any gains over conventional?

Rick
From memory the prototypes made a extra 2 horsepower and the production ones were pretty much the same as a stocker.

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Checked all mine and they were all either .037 or .038 with one set at exactly .040. Not a big deal as someone else said, but good for piece of mind. God, that took me all of a half hour going VERY slowly. I remember the 4-6 hour ordeals on Fbodies back in the day.

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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SgtRod
Sounds like gapping is tricky. Does this require a special tool?? Im obviously no tech but would like to do this myself without making it worse.
I found this instructional video on You Tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk70oyUEftY
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mez
I found this instructional video on You Tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk70oyUEftY
and now my coin spark plug gapper goes into the trash!
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