Dented Headers, would you buy??
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From: Lewisville TX
Dented Headers, would you buy??
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-p...-shipping.html
These are for sale on another post, so i hope someone doens't jump on them before me but oh well.
They are the header I know i am going to get. LG Superpro 1 3/4 with the 2.5" connection to the cat-back and it comes with cats.
The deal is hard to pass up and almost has enough parts in it to make the buy worth while. The smaller rounded dent on the drivers header isn't as much of a concern as the passenger side header dent that appears it was either hammered or grated for a longer length of the header pipe. 3rd picture on the top
Any commnets on if these would affect performance or any adverse affects to the engine would be helpful.
Headers may get dented all the time on install and if you don't see them you may never know, but I am not an expert so i would rather "poll the audience"
These are for sale on another post, so i hope someone doens't jump on them before me but oh well.
They are the header I know i am going to get. LG Superpro 1 3/4 with the 2.5" connection to the cat-back and it comes with cats.
The deal is hard to pass up and almost has enough parts in it to make the buy worth while. The smaller rounded dent on the drivers header isn't as much of a concern as the passenger side header dent that appears it was either hammered or grated for a longer length of the header pipe. 3rd picture on the top
Any commnets on if these would affect performance or any adverse affects to the engine would be helpful.
Headers may get dented all the time on install and if you don't see them you may never know, but I am not an expert so i would rather "poll the audience"
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Not a chance! Hard to tell how severe the damage is from pics but looks pretty significant. Reduced airflow, uneven pressure and weakend steel where those indents look pretty bad. If it were scratches or just marring on the tubes and only astetic damage fine but these are severly damaged and will effect performance. Im surprised they are trying to sell them. They should just eat the loss instead of trying to pawn off a badly damaged product. IMO.
Melting Slicks
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I went off track and caught an FIA curb with the bottom of the car and my drivers side header. It was a significant dent. I removed the header and took it to my fabricator. He cut out the dented area with a plasma torch, hammered the piece back into shape and welded it back in.
Good as new!
It might cost you $100 to get the dents repaired, but you'll still be money ahead.
Good as new!
It might cost you $100 to get the dents repaired, but you'll still be money ahead.
Melting Slicks
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If you are a "show" car guy who is more interested in how they "look" instead of how they perform, then you should probably pass.
If you are a bargain hunter who isn't afraid of a bit of "cutting and welding" then go for it!
PS. I'd call Anthony at LG and talk to him about it. I'm certain that they have the capability to repair them!
Last edited by OCCOMSRAZOR; Jun 23, 2010 at 12:29 PM.
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Getting them fixed is an option but its not like theres one little place that needs repair. Not to mention that some of those dents look close to full penetration and puncture. The maroon must of put a maul to them to try get them to "fit". Cutting out those badly damaged sections and trying to hammer them into compliance wont work so well. They might get them into place to weld but that steel will always be in a weakend state. I do some welding but not an SS expert. Slag on the inside of the welded patches will also intefere with flow. And I dont see anyone fixing all those areas for $100. Maybe a certified SS welder will step in.Also, the monkeys who tried to manhandle these things into place likely weakend the welds at the header flange. Those tubes are a large lever and its easy to crank down and damage those welds where the flange and tubes meet. I wouldnt use them on my car. Headaches down the road. I would run away.
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There's a reason headers are mandrel bent instead of just using a pipe bender.
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I got a set of dented up headers for my 05 off a wreck for an unbelevable price. One dent was pretty nasty so I cut out the dent and welded in a new piece. I have not had any issues with them. I say if you like the price get them!
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I had a car come in with two of the primarys crushed to the point where they were almost half thier original size. The damage was from an angry speed bump, so it crushed one tube on each header right where they pass the back of the engine block. The car was treated to a chassis dyno session before and after , net RWHP gain from the repair = 0. HP and TQ curves were exactly identical before and after.
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Thanks for that info I am going to go ahead and get them.
Also going to get a ported FAST 102 and a tunnel plate from EE. Trying to think of anything else little that i might be forgetting.
Also going to get a ported FAST 102 and a tunnel plate from EE. Trying to think of anything else little that i might be forgetting.
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Well after talking to LG i am torn again. Bobby at LG was saying he would steer clear of them. He noted the cylinder temperature would be different, i would guess for difference in exhaust pressure versus the other longtubes. Anything that messes with the internals sounds bad.
Mixed opinions has me want to wait and lean more towards the safe side but its a nice deal on the headers too. Repairing them probably isn't worth the money since i would rather it be whole and probably not worth the $$.
Guess ill be waiting now it seems like unless someone has some positive light to shed on this one.
Mixed opinions has me want to wait and lean more towards the safe side but its a nice deal on the headers too. Repairing them probably isn't worth the money since i would rather it be whole and probably not worth the $$.
Guess ill be waiting now it seems like unless someone has some positive light to shed on this one.
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Well after talking to LG i am torn again. Bobby at LG was saying he would steer clear of them. He noted the cylinder temperature would be different, i would guess for difference in exhaust pressure versus the other longtubes. Anything that messes with the internals sounds bad.
Mixed opinions has me want to wait and lean more towards the safe side but its a nice deal on the headers too. Repairing them probably isn't worth the money since i would rather it be whole and probably not worth the $$.
Guess ill be waiting now it seems like unless someone has some positive light to shed on this one.
Mixed opinions has me want to wait and lean more towards the safe side but its a nice deal on the headers too. Repairing them probably isn't worth the money since i would rather it be whole and probably not worth the $$.
Guess ill be waiting now it seems like unless someone has some positive light to shed on this one.
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Those dent repairs are NOT that difficult or expensive to repair. Unless you want to get show quality headers, why not get then and have the couple small areas fix. Take a good sheet metal man a couple hours and they will be good as new.
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Dude, if you're looking for "cheap" why not just get the chinese headers (obx) that the guy talks about in his post. they'll fit fine and perform 95% as good and you can pick up a catted set brand new for like 800 bucks.
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Wow, rough audience here. There is no issue with them. Buy them and get it repaired and save big bucks. Some guys wont run a runflat with a plug. I have done this on 2 cars and 4 plugs to any speed and they all held until the tires were bald and I got replacements. I just got rid of a front with 25K on a plug. It was there for 5 years. I bought it used for 50 bucks because no one wants them. Lots of myths out there.
Ignore the perfectionists and save the money. Buy them.
Ignore the perfectionists and save the money. Buy them.