Blower Cam considerations.
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From: Fredericksburg VA
Blower Cam considerations.
I'm looking to put a blower cam on my 2005 C6 which has about 6 lbs of boost from the A&A SC. (Plus boost a pump, 60 Lbs injectors, thermostat swapped out, and some porting on the intake). My problem is I very much like the sound of a big cam that lopes at idle; but I'm told a good blower cam that produces maximum power doesn't have these characteristics. I've looked at the England Green Mayhem II and the ECS blower cam: I understand the England green to not produce as much power but has a nastier sound, where as the ECS sounds basically stock but produces the most power. What advice can some of the more experienced members provide? I'm not as concerned about drivability as I am the visceral quality of a car that sounds sweet (music to my ears); and I am less concerned about the sound than I am about performance (where rubber meets the road). Ultimately I'd give up a little of one for the other. If Cam 'A' produces 610 HP and sounds stock & Cam 'B' produces 600 HP but sounds like a beast then I'd take Cam 'B' because 10 HP just isn't worth the sacrifice. I know nothing is that simple: So if anyone has a story to share or some numbers to post, then please let me know (I love the hobby and love learning).
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Take a look at our blower cam selection in the FI Section.
Our Stinger Cam is worth a good 50hp and has a nice lope to it.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...ower-cams.html
Our Stinger Cam is worth a good 50hp and has a nice lope to it.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...ower-cams.html
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From: Fredericksburg VA
Could any one fill me in?
I understand the basics of what I am looking for but I have no real data on what trade offs are being made. most blower cams I hear on you-tube sound stock...
Last edited by bwfredette; Sep 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM.
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We offer a number of forced induction cams for the cars, depending on displacement.
You are right, most of them do not have a big lopey sound to them as there is not a lot of overlap in the cam to build boost.
Here are a couple of ours...
G5XB
G6XB
Of course we can go bigger, or grind anything you want, but that is typically what our normal blower cams are going to sound like.
Generally I will see a 30-40 rwhp increase NA, and 45-60 rwhp on a blown car (8-10 psi)
You are right, most of them do not have a big lopey sound to them as there is not a lot of overlap in the cam to build boost.
Here are a couple of ours...
G5XB
G6XB
Of course we can go bigger, or grind anything you want, but that is typically what our normal blower cams are going to sound like.
Generally I will see a 30-40 rwhp increase NA, and 45-60 rwhp on a blown car (8-10 psi)
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Take a look at our blower cam selection in the FI Section.
Our Stinger Cam is worth a good 50hp and has a nice lope to it.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...ower-cams.html
Our Stinger Cam is worth a good 50hp and has a nice lope to it.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...ower-cams.html
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More info on spins cam?
I didn't see anything on the web about Spins cam. I enjoy his threads; I'd like to check out his cam. He realy knows what he's talking about from I can tell.
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I seen a lot of videos of A&A FI with the EG W hiplash cam... anyone tried this? They sound awesome but I believe EG recommends the Mayhem II. and I would tend to take professional advice over YouTube 
. Still any input is welcome. Thus far I have come to a short list:
ECS’s Blower CAM
EG’s Mayhem II
Ragin Racin’s Stinger CAM
LG’s G5XB
EPP’s Blower cam
A&A blower cam
More replys would be great. I'm looking for a good low and mid torque cam more than a top end one. Also I'm not interested in a sleeper because I like the sound asociated with a big cam.
I'd like to make 600 to 650 after I'm done with everything. I have the T-trim kit, and 60 Lbs injectors with a boost a pump. I'll put a meth kit on and get it tuned after the cam job. Am I being realistic?
I want to know where the compromises are and which cam falls in to those nitches of compromise. I've listed the cams and stats side by side, but none have published all of the numbers to calculate all the factors I need to make a good choice, that's why I started this thread. I figured that the experience of every one would be the best source for knowledge.
. Still any input is welcome. Thus far I have come to a short list:ECS’s Blower CAM
EG’s Mayhem II
Ragin Racin’s Stinger CAM
LG’s G5XB
EPP’s Blower cam
A&A blower cam
More replys would be great. I'm looking for a good low and mid torque cam more than a top end one. Also I'm not interested in a sleeper because I like the sound asociated with a big cam.
I'd like to make 600 to 650 after I'm done with everything. I have the T-trim kit, and 60 Lbs injectors with a boost a pump. I'll put a meth kit on and get it tuned after the cam job. Am I being realistic?
I want to know where the compromises are and which cam falls in to those nitches of compromise. I've listed the cams and stats side by side, but none have published all of the numbers to calculate all the factors I need to make a good choice, that's why I started this thread. I figured that the experience of every one would be the best source for knowledge.
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I like the ECS blower cam. It makes the best area under the curve and with a low idle it lopes hard or at a high idle you wont know its there. Its all in the tuning.
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I'd stick with a smaller cam if you're concerned more about low and mid range power, as a centri is gonna make more top end and a lot of overlap from a big cam bleeds off boost. As Spin stated, you can idle it slower to get it to lope.
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yeah,, nobody even knows i have a cam unless i have the idle set to 650. at 700 or more its butter smooth.
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How about the install is it a difficult cam to degree in?
I'm consdering pulling the motor and installing a stroker kit or at minimal forged pistons and rods. I'd be pulling half the engine apart for the cam anyhow I figure.
BUT
that leads me to waning to port the heads,oh and then the rear end and... I half to pick a stoping point.
I'm consdering pulling the motor and installing a stroker kit or at minimal forged pistons and rods. I'd be pulling half the engine apart for the cam anyhow I figure.
BUT
that leads me to waning to port the heads,oh and then the rear end and... I half to pick a stoping point.
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Blower Cam
I have a Livernois Stage 2C cam spec'd. at 224/236 .612/.612 & 117LSA on my A6 LS2 with CNC'd L92 heads, Edelbrock E-force blower, Kooks L/T's and Z06 fuel pump with a BAP. Below are my dyno results @ 8 PSI and a couple of links to videos which were both done under less than ideal conditions. I'm currently running with a stock converter, but plan to move up to a 2800 RPM stall converter in the spring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef55X66UFu8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjy7jXofMPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef55X66UFu8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjy7jXofMPc
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The specs are on the video. I don't think it's a blower cam as this was installed before the blower went on the car. It doesn't have alot of torque but I can't tell anyway with the stock clutch... If I get into boost right now the clutch just lets go. 
I'm picking up a stage 3 clutch next week.
http://www.youtube.com/user/themagicm#p/u/4/7VEoXIq_WmA
I'm picking up a stage 3 clutch next week. http://www.youtube.com/user/themagicm#p/u/4/7VEoXIq_WmA
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In any event, that sounds perfect to me. Loud when you want it and quiet for sanity on the hiway but always with a bit of lope as american muscle should have; nice cam.