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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dgrant3830
I think we all would like to hear what the seller has/had to say about this....so please update us when you can.
Sure will. I have a PM and an email into the seller. I'm confident we'll be able to work out something.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
The only reason I don't think is going to work is that if there were a way to re-glue it and have it hold, I think GM would have found it. Rather than replacing the top with a different material as they ended up doing.
GM originally put out a fix to the dealers to inject an urethane foam into the frame but gave up on that. Probably because the dealers where having a trouble applying it without getting the foam on the trim or fabric.

GM would not have found it anyway...It would have been someone like 3M.

I would definitely contact 3M to get their advice. They make all kinds of industrial adhesives including one to glue a door skin to the frame. I have no doubt if the area was prepped right and clean, it will stick. I think the manufacture simply did not clean or prep the area where the top was glued to the frame.

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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dgrant3830
I think we all would like to hear what the seller has/had to say about this....so please update us when you can.
Hey Guys –

A bit more help if you would…

Do you think I’m being unreasonable asking the seller to make good on the top in spite of the fact so much time (75 days) have lapsed since the top arrived?

The seller claims the top was off a buddy’s ’09 and that there was nothing wrong with the top when he sent it. I asked him to get it covered under warranty if that’s the case or provide a refund. To me, the year of the top was misrepresented.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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Ask the seller for the VIN# of the car it came off from then check with a GM dealer on that fact. Contact a moderator for whatever possible assistance but insure you carefully follow the forum rules. I do not know the types of material used for the various tops but as the other posts in this thread, they are probably correct but its something you can verify with a dealer. I think mine is black material and mine's an '07 with no issues of delamination nor covered in the recall.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Mike
Hey Guys –

A bit more help if you would…

Do you think I’m being unreasonable asking the seller to make good on the top in spite of the fact so much time (75 days) have lapsed since the top arrived?

The seller claims the top was off a buddy’s ’09 and that there was nothing wrong with the top when he sent it. I asked him to get it covered under warranty if that’s the case or provide a refund. To me, the year of the top was misrepresented.
Yeah, right, it's off my buddy's 2009.

I would send him a registered letter saying this: "I don't care if you got if from man in the moon. You sold to me without disclosure of the material defect. This is a safety issue. Either return my money or I will be forced to take legal action for the cost of the top plus legal costs".

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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dgrant3830
I think we all would like to hear what the seller has/had to say about this....so please update us when you can.
One final report fellas. I got hosed.

The seller claims too much time has passed and my report to him "smells fishy". One of the Moderators was very helpful but I realize he has limited power to intercede on my behalf. I know it's a fraudulent transaction and I suspect the seller, deep down, does too.

I'm chalking the $275 up to further tuition to the school of hard knocks. I now know that I will never buy another top that is black under the headliner…

I appreciate y'all who provided assistance!
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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this is a joke, i am the one who sold the top anybody who has bought anything from me will tell you i stand behind anything i sell, i sold the top shipped it he recieved it and posted on the forum http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-p...-for-sale.html

so what do you do 90 days later when all of the sudden the top is garbage? little strange to me i think? good then bad now, thats bull, but thanks to all who chimed in without gettin the facts,
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bentley14
this is a joke, i am the one who sold the top anybody who has bought anything from me will tell you i stand behind anything i sell, i sold the top shipped it he recieved it and posted on the forum http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-p...-for-sale.html

so what do you do 90 days later when all of the sudden the top is garbage? little strange to me i think? good then bad now, thats bull, but thanks to all who chimed in without gettin the facts,
I'd meet him part way. There is no way the top would go bad just sitting around for 90 days. Plus if you sold it as an 09, you misrepresented it since it's a black polycarbonate top that was produced in 06 at the latest.

But, that's up to you, but I'd give him his money back.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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there is no way thats the top that i sent, but whatever you would like to think is fine with me, this could go back in forth forever but bottom line is i know the truth and im sure there are others here that know this is crap
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bentley14
there is no way thats the top that i sent, but whatever you would like to think is fine with me, this could go back in forth forever but bottom line is i know the truth and im sure there are others here that know this is crap
So you are saying this guy had the audacity to keep your good 09 top and then try to get you to take back an old delaminated top for a full refund? And not only that but he posted his problem on the forum for everyone to see. That's possible, but it's also possible that your buddy duped you into thinking he had an 09 top when it was really an older polycarbonate top. Or maybe your friend bought a used 09 and didn't realize someone had an older top on it. There are a lot of possibilities.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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maybe where he got the top (bentley) was sold to him wrong. and so he didnt know the difference and sold it as what HE thought it was. the guy(fat mike) should of said something earlier. i mean 3 months, c'mon, thats a long time to not figure something out. i'd just eat it cuz i took so damn long. i vouch for Bentley cuz i've done plenty of dealing with him and he is straight up.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by glennhl
I'd meet him part way. There is no way the top would go bad just sitting around for 90 days.
That's not true at all. "Just sitting around" is a very typical precursor to failure of the glue joint. And when it starts it can be hard to detect at all, and can get worse in a hurry.

GM should replace every last one of these in existence, no matter how it got purchased. That the recall applied only to cars purchased with the tops (and not the tops themselves) is a dumb legal loophole.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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This may be not for nothing at this point but the "90 days" was actually 75 days. I realize it's an excessive period and that's why I didn't bring Bobby's name into the thread.

Here's why it took me so long to notify him. I bought the top, unpackaged it, looked at the four corners that had gotten rubbed during transit and put the top away in a storage closet. I rec'd the top at my business and put the top away for safe keeping until after Christmas till my b-i-l could paint the top.

The top was advertised as a top from an '09 so why did I need to inspect it further? The corners were rubbed but I was going to have the top painted so the rubbed areas were of little concern. Also, I had no clue how to identify whether it was anything than what was advertised.

I recently pulled the top from storage to give the top to my b-i-l and it was he who saw the corners of the top were coming apart at all four corners. My local dealer pulled the frame from the top to see if there was a number on the top. It took very little effort to separate the frame so the adhesive that was used had gotten to the point it was terrible.

Based upon what I've read about the man, I suspect Bobby had no clue that he was selling a top that was anything other than a top from an '09.

However, the top I received from him is the only C6 (painted) top that I have now or ever had in my possession. To me, the bottom line is that he didn't send me a top from an '09.

For anyone looking to buy a top, make sure you know what you're buying.
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