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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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1. I live in southern AZ...would think this would be a problem here, but wind chill in Tucson is 7 degrees.

2. In recent cold spells my manual 6 speed has a tough time shifting and getting into reverse is nearly impossible some times.

What causes this? Can't the Corvette only operate properly above 40 degrees.

I'm using the dot 4 (I think) clutch fluid and just had the system serviced about 3 months ago.

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The fluid in the tranny is cold and doesn't flow well below 40* so the synchros need a little longer to match-up. After a few miles, the fluid should warm up enough. Until then I double clutch and don't slam the gears.

To me, the TR6060 seems more sensitive to this than the t56. There are several threads on here about notchiness of the TR6060 in the winter.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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My 2006 Z51 M6 car didn't like R or 2nd gear until it was warmed up if it was below 50 degree's outside.

I changed the fluid to RedLine D4 ATF and it was better..but still not happy.

My current 2008 Z06 does about the same thing and I short shift the car into 3rd until it warms up and just completely skip 2nd gear.

I am not sure if it is a tolerance on the syncro assembly that causes them to be so tight when they are cold or what the issue is. I have talked to the guys at RPM and they have all said it was a syncro issue.
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Originally Posted by Anthony @ LGMotorsports
I changed the fluid to RedLine D4 ATF and it was better..but still not happy.
I'm doing that in the next week or so. I hope it helps a bit.

My current 2008 Z06 does about the same thing and I short shift the car into 3rd until it warms up and just completely skip 2nd gear.
I'll do that too. either by pass 2nd gear or go straight into 2nd from neutral as long as the car is at least barely rolling such as almost coming to a stop at a light that just changed to green.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
I'm doing that in the next week or so. I hope it helps a bit.

I'll do that too. either by pass 2nd gear or go straight into 2nd from neutral as long as the car is at least barely rolling such as almost coming to a stop at a light that just changed to green.
I know, real pain in the butt. One would have thought GM would have fixed it, but it could be something that is there for hot function, not so much cold. I have tried going N then 2nd, didn't seem to help much, so I just skip it completely until I have 10-15 miles on it.

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My car did that here in Cali in 70 degree weather until I got about 7K on the clock, now it is much better. I couldn't shift at 2K without it being very notchy, if I briought it up to an area where I didn't need the clutch to shift it was fine. It was irritating as hell! But I have no idea what mine would do in those temps. I would say synchro tolerancing is probably a big factor.

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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 12:13 AM
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I forgot to add that if I shifted around 1300rpm's fast it was actually pretty good when cold. I tried the slow shifting and skipping gears, but the fast shifting at very low rpm's worked pretty good.

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I forgot to add that if I shifted around 1300rpm's fast it was actually pretty good when cold.
Even when cold, that's way lower than I shift.
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Mine will nibble a little when the temps are low. If you shift slowly you can get the car into second. Just can't do it fast. The lube warms up within a mile of my house so after that it is like driving the car any other day. My two C5s did the same thing. Nothing to worry about.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Mine will nibble a little when the temps are low. If you shift slowly you can get the car into second. Just can't do it fast. The lube warms up within a mile of my house so after that it is like driving the car any other day. My two C5s did the same thing. Nothing to worry about.

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I could not do mine fast at any normal shifting rpm range either. Not even slowly, it was way notchy. The real low shifting fast somehow worked well, I was trying everything since mine did not get any better by the time I got to work. I was about to take it out and send it to RPM, I just couldn't take it.
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Let it warm up for 10-15 minuets and that will help.
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Originally Posted by Dulimon
Let it warm up for 10-15 minuets and that will help.
10 or 15 minutes of driving (i.e. movement) cures it.
If you were suggesting sitting and idling, that will help an A6, but it isn't going do anything very useful for a M6. I wouldn't suggest idling an A6 for more than a minute unless it was super cold out.
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