I hope, with better weather and shifting.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I hear ya.
I'm just spewing out facts so everyone can can make their own assessments. Gary has some more 1.3 to come.
Chaz's car can cut a bottom 1.4x on the right track.
This is good for the c6 guys to step up their game, both ls2 and ls3.
The competition is great for et's.
I'm just spewing out facts so everyone can can make their own assessments. Gary has some more 1.3 to come.
Chaz's car can cut a bottom 1.4x on the right track.
This is good for the c6 guys to step up their game, both ls2 and ls3.
The competition is great for et's.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Fartpipe has stock 3.42 gears....Can't use him in this comparison.
Torque is already proven since Gary's Z out traps and 60fts better than Chaz.
You seem to ignore the top end power of both...Like I said, your agruements don't hold water.
You said you were done yesterday...I don't believe you! Hahaha!!!
Torque is already proven since Gary's Z out traps and 60fts better than Chaz.
You seem to ignore the top end power of both...Like I said, your agruements don't hold water.
You said you were done yesterday...I don't believe you! Hahaha!!!
What are you talking about top end power? Horsepower is equal.
The 427 has a ton more average torque 4500-7000.
I think your entire comparision of a 364 to a 427 is ludicrous - think about it. You're saying "of course a 364 can trap 134 mph in conditions at least 1000 DA less than optimal...look at these 427's, they can do it in optimal DA!".
My point is, the exact opposite...if 427's can do it...how can 364's? What's the magic mod?
Hey look, the guy did the time. He doesn't want to tell any other secrets, that's his business. I'm assuming he's being genuine and doesn't have NOS or a stroker kit in the car. If that assumption is wrong, and he's misrepresenting what he's got, then that's dirty pool and not in the spirit of the Forum.
Given my assumption I've been trying for 2 days to get info on the magic mod. I think people would be more inclined to buy if they knew what they were buying...tough to repeat magic.
That's my whole point in this guys. Nothing more and I'm not a hater, Chazc6 is to be commended for great m6 driving in my book.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtOPy_lp2QY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28xG4...553F4&index=23
I believe that Mike was definitely leaving some on the table, especially with that launch.
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St. Jude Donor '10
I said I was done last night buddy!
What are you talking about top end power? Horsepower is equal.
The 427 has a ton more average torque 4500-7000.
I think your entire comparision of a 364 to a 427 is ludicrous - think about it. You're saying "of course a 364 can trap 134 mph in conditions at least 1000 DA less than optimal...look at these 427's, they can do it in optimal DA!".
My point is, the exact opposite...if 427's can do it...how can 364's? What's the magic mod?
Hey look, the guy did the time. He doesn't want to tell any other secrets, that's his business. I'm assuming he's being genuine and doesn't have NOS or a stroker kit in the car. If that assumption is wrong, and he's misrepresenting what he's got, then that's dirty pool and not in the spirit of the Forum.
Given my assumption I've been trying for 2 days to get info on the magic mod. I think people would be more inclined to buy if they knew what they were buying...tough to repeat magic.
That's my whole point in this guys. Nothing more and I'm not a hater, Chazc6 is to be commended for great m6 driving in my book.
What are you talking about top end power? Horsepower is equal.
The 427 has a ton more average torque 4500-7000.
I think your entire comparision of a 364 to a 427 is ludicrous - think about it. You're saying "of course a 364 can trap 134 mph in conditions at least 1000 DA less than optimal...look at these 427's, they can do it in optimal DA!".
My point is, the exact opposite...if 427's can do it...how can 364's? What's the magic mod?
Hey look, the guy did the time. He doesn't want to tell any other secrets, that's his business. I'm assuming he's being genuine and doesn't have NOS or a stroker kit in the car. If that assumption is wrong, and he's misrepresenting what he's got, then that's dirty pool and not in the spirit of the Forum.
Given my assumption I've been trying for 2 days to get info on the magic mod. I think people would be more inclined to buy if they knew what they were buying...tough to repeat magic.
That's my whole point in this guys. Nothing more and I'm not a hater, Chazc6 is to be commended for great m6 driving in my book.
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Just to let you know.
I'm not the type of person that would cheat, lie or misrepresent myself over a car. My higher power is my witness and to thy own self be true, i have nothing to hide. There's no stroker, no nitrous or any work to the short block. I'll challenge anybody on the specs of my car and short block. I suggest that if anyone has serious doubt, find someone in NJ to check out my car. I'm not the only guy with over 500 hp rwhp running mid 10.s, Maybe it's the experience we have and learned how to apply it, there's a few guys in the 10.s making less than 500 rwhp. If you read my post earlier, when i sliced off 32 lbs of rotation weight, it shaved another 160 lbs off a 2965 lbs car in the 1/4 mi, that alone added 2 mph. No secrets just a good combo & tune. I pray not spray.
I'm not the type of person that would cheat, lie or misrepresent myself over a car. My higher power is my witness and to thy own self be true, i have nothing to hide. There's no stroker, no nitrous or any work to the short block. I'll challenge anybody on the specs of my car and short block. I suggest that if anyone has serious doubt, find someone in NJ to check out my car. I'm not the only guy with over 500 hp rwhp running mid 10.s, Maybe it's the experience we have and learned how to apply it, there's a few guys in the 10.s making less than 500 rwhp. If you read my post earlier, when i sliced off 32 lbs of rotation weight, it shaved another 160 lbs off a 2965 lbs car in the 1/4 mi, that alone added 2 mph. No secrets just a good combo & tune. I pray not spray.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Hey look, the guy did the time. He doesn't want to tell any other secrets, that's his business. I'm assuming he's being genuine and doesn't have NOS or a stroker kit in the car. If that assumption is wrong, and he's misrepresenting what he's got, then that's dirty pool and not in the spirit of the Forum.
I'm not the type of person that would cheat, lie or misrepresent myself or car. My higher power is my witness and to thy own self be true, i have nothing to hide. There's no stroker, no nitrous or any work to the short block. I'll challenge anybody on the specs of my car and short block. I suggest that if anyone has serious doubt, fine someone in NJ to check out my car. I'm not the only guy with over 500 hp rwhp running mid 10.s, Maybe it's the experience we have and learned how to apply it, there's guys in the 10.s making less than 500 rwhp. If you read my post earlier, when i shave 32 lbs of rotation weight was like taking another 160 lbs off a 2965 lbs car, that alone added 2 mph. No magic, just a good combo, tune. I pray not spray.
I'm not the type of person that would cheat, lie or misrepresent myself or car. My higher power is my witness and to thy own self be true, i have nothing to hide. There's no stroker, no nitrous or any work to the short block. I'll challenge anybody on the specs of my car and short block. I suggest that if anyone has serious doubt, fine someone in NJ to check out my car. I'm not the only guy with over 500 hp rwhp running mid 10.s, Maybe it's the experience we have and learned how to apply it, there's guys in the 10.s making less than 500 rwhp. If you read my post earlier, when i shave 32 lbs of rotation weight was like taking another 160 lbs off a 2965 lbs car, that alone added 2 mph. No magic, just a good combo, tune. I pray not spray.
Good info on the rotating weight, I didn't ask what clutch you had...what is it?
Chaz, you have set the bar.
And I hope you don't take any ill will from my comments - none intended and I hope none expressed.
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None taken, some taken as a compliment for you to be amazed. Jay installed the Spec 3 Clutch & Billet steel Flywheel.
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Maybe it's the experience we have and learned how to apply it, there's a few guys in the 10.s making less than 500 rwhp. If you read my post earlier, when i shave 32 lbs of rotation weight, it shave another 160 lbs off a 2965 lbs car in the 1/4 mi, that alone added 2 mph.
and then again not completely.I'm one of those under 500HP in the 10's partially due to experience adjusting to changing track conditions, but mostly due to some negative DA and weight savings.
I've done real world testing to prove or disprove the rotational weight factors that seem to range as high as 8 lbs/lb. and the .1 ET/100 lbs adage.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ght-tests.html
Reducing weight does make a quantifiable difference, but don't lock yourself into thinking that there is a pound-for-rotationalpound constant.
For example, a 20# two-piece aluminum center 12" rotor requires more force to accelerate to a given speed than the same size and weight all steel rotor, simply because a greater percentage of the weight is farther away from the axis.
Keeping it light is good. Keeping it light and safe is better.
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and then again not completely.I'm one of those under 500HP in the 10's partially due to experience adjusting to changing track conditions, but mostly due to some negative DA and weight savings.
I've done real world testing to prove or disprove the rotational weight factors that seem to range as high as 8 lbs/lb. and the .1 ET/100 lbs adage.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ght-tests.html
Reducing weight does make a quantifiable difference, but don't lock yourself into thinking that there is a pound-for-rotationalpound constant.
For example, a 20# two-piece aluminum center 12" rotor requires more force to accelerate to a given speed than the same size and weight all steel rotor, simply because a greater percentage of the weight is farther away from the axis.
Keeping it light is good. Keeping it light and safe is better.
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I see a lot of hard driving 1/4 mile guys running this style clutch. How do you guys think it compares to a RPS Street Twin for example? Thats the clutch I plan on going to purely for the 32lbs vs @48ish lbs I run now. Figure that will help me in all the types of driving I do.
Thoughts Chaz.... anyone?
Thoughts Chaz.... anyone?
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My DA was about 400 and I put down more hp and torque. Raceweight back then was 3100-3150 in race mode with me in it. Now it's even lighter. 
I still have carpet, panels, etc. I didn't gut the car. I should be down to 3000 with me in it if I ever buy a new drag setup and go back to the track.
Here is my slip.
I still have carpet, panels, etc. I didn't gut the car. I should be down to 3000 with me in it if I ever buy a new drag setup and go back to the track. Here is my slip.
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St. Jude Donor '10
I see a lot of hard driving 1/4 mile guys running this style clutch. How do you guys think it compares to a RPS Street Twin for example? Thats the clutch I plan on going to purely for the 32lbs vs @48ish lbs I run now. Figure that will help me in all the types of driving I do.
Thoughts Chaz.... anyone?
Thoughts Chaz.... anyone?