The 450+rwhp was a Mustang dyno. Probably would have dynoed close to Chaz's car on a dynojet with a little less torque. But that's peak hp which is not the most critical value.

 

I think an opinion coming from Theofel or myself has enough personal experience to easily pass the internet BS test. Besides both of us senior citizens having daily driver C6's running 10's, I personally have gone 8's (not in a Vette) and held national records in the late '60s, which makes me aware of the requirements to go quicker.

Seems that Rattt g went 9's in a M6 Vette with a 1.44 60' and therefore proving that it is possible.

Last week I watched a couple of normally 9 second cars make multiple low and mid 10 second passes, again proving that just because a car runs 10's on any given day, doesn't mean they aren't 9 second capable.

I never said you didn't have proof, but merely doubted you did. And yes, you could be wrong.

1) You offer no proof that all 5 of those 134mph car you drove were NOT capable of 9's.

2) No proof of these being incapable either.

3) And there is some point to this???

4) 5) No proof here either.

In the late 50's the best minds agreed that 183 MPH was the ultimate limitation for any piston powered car to achive in the quarter mile. They offered proof in several ways that it wasn't possible. Obviously they were wrong.

It's a no-brainer to offer proof of something that exists or has happened, but nearly impossible to prove something incapable of existing in the future. You may keep that in mind for the next time someone mentions "capable" when offering an opinion.

 

Thanks Artie. Nice run you had

 

Thanks

 

Everything you wrote above shows you are missing the point of the discussion. You jumped into a debate arguing something different.
I'm disputing that trapping 134 mph in a late model manual vette is 9 second ride. That's the argument.

 

I can appreciate all that you have done drag racing for sure. But that doesn't pertain to manual late model corvettes which are different animals.
We're not debating whether a car is capable of nines.

 

Let me show you an example of the difference old school vs. new school. Plus gives me an excuse to watch this video which I like and since this thread is hacked beyond belief, why not add some video.

Check out my buddy and me....

Similar 60 foots, similar ET's but MPH is way different.



As his car is 3800 lbs he's got a lot more HP too but aerodynamics takes over at the big end. He's a 6.9 1/8 on that run vs my 7.1. It's also a demonstration of my lack of shifting ability ever since my rear blew. His 3600 stall and only two shifts in the whole race get him to 330 in record time vs me who has to shift once or twice to get there.

The slips. It's the third slip. In case you think I can't cut a light check the first two slips. I was going for my 10 on the third slip so wasn't so concerned about the tree.

By the way, check out those 4 slips. That's a fun night of racing. Two PB's set by two long time rivals, me and Retrotech.

 

I want to Thank everyone for your thoughts, and support. There's no way i could have done it without the help from you guys and the C/F. My goal was to try and reach 500 rwhp. I never imagined being here. I've broke 5 times at the track in the pass 3 years, 3 halfshafts, c6 rear case, 2 output shafts and the bell housing, probably all due to wheel hop, which i learned to avoid from tips from this forum. I've been so frustrated in the pass, that i tried to sell my C6. I'm glad i didn't quit. Thanks, i appreciate the input from you guys.
Thanks
In mem Pop.
My Son Joe.
Jay. A.

 

Oh I remember, I was even considering buying your rear rims at one point LOL.
As we'd talked about last time I saw you at E-town late last year, you really need a roll bar (at our local tracks at least) to be able to make multiple passes in a row without being tossed and fully extract the most out of the car and apparently that helped.
Data logging is key as well so you may want to look into that eventually as you seek more new bests.

 

Here's the original statement.

Originally Posted by theofel
Any N/A Corvette that is capable of a 134 MPH in a 1/4 mile should be able to have a E.T. in the 9's.

And your response.

That's a bold statement.
What proof do you have of this?
I disagree.

It appears you have now modified the discussion by limiting the speed to 134 mph and requiring a manual trans to get in the 9's.

I did, and still do, support Theofel's opinion that the power required for a Vette to go 134, also has the capability to go 9's. It's never been an argument, only an opinion. Opinions don't require proof, your's included.

I also believe (another opinion here) that Chazc6 can break into the 9's with a good launch, some crisper shifting, and some of that great negative DA that others have experienced. He's already demonstrated the power and indicated the shifting suffered, so it's not impossible. I doubt he'd run exactly 134 mph on that pass though.

YMMV

 

better DA and cleaner shifts or better launches wont put that car in the 9s, do a reverse da calculation. not an opinion just a guess

 

Givinng your opinion, when you have no clue or experience only misleads people but I guess we have to expect that on the internet. Opinions should be based on facts when you're offering insight or help to other members otherwise why say it at all, it just confuses people and clouds up the thread.
Opinions fron left field are just a waste of time.
Saying you don't need proof is a "cop out" way of not having to back up your statement. It's ok to debate and argue, it also ok to be wrong. I prefer to deal with real experiences on the dragstrip that I'm happy to share to provide a realistic impression of what these cars are capabe for anyone to benefit from.
How many n/a, corvettes have run 9's in a 6 speed trapping 134 mph?
My opinion (guess) is none.

Just subsitute guess everytime you say opinion and everyone will be better off.

 

Just to chime in, I also feel a car running 134mph in positive DA is 9's capable.

Whether or not anyone does it is a different story.

Yes, this is my opinion, which doesn't need to be substantiated by any fact whatsoever

 

How about a 6speed street car corvette?
(which is the topic here)

 

Shawn, if you plan to try this in your vette that's great because it will give us all insight.
My advice is to add weight to your car if you want to keep it under 134as you approach nines and hopefully by then someone will have built a more bulletproof rear to hold up to 1.2 60' times.

 

Great. Now we're goning to get these young c6Z owners who are saying they have a nine second car because they trapped 134 mph on their g-tech in 1/4 mile mode.

 

ULUZ damn near did it in his Z down here in Houston

I'm just busting *****...I don't really care if anyone ever runs 9's N/A at a specific MPH. I do still think that a high 10.4 is weak sauce for an N/A record though in the C6 and think 9's are coming eventually, but I don't care if it's done at 134mph or 140mph. Arguing whether or not this specific car can see 9s at the specific mph he ran on THAT pass is just silly. I DO think that car can see 9's, because it's obviously making awesome power to make that run in subpar weather. It might need weight reduction, better driving, better weather, better tuning, etc... but like I said, I don't care what MPH it runs. I DO think it is a 9 second capable car.

My car is going to see 9s on spray...I'll never have a radical enough N/A build do do it.

 

I'm with ya, it's all about the et.

ULUZ was auto.

 

Ah, I didn't know the Z was converted over.

I just remembered the post from back in the day on tech.

 

Hit me up if you want some setup advice.

uluz went 10.04 @136.81
That car defintely had 9's. Erik K. killer build.