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Any idea of an optimum M6 cam for the LS7 heads on a 6.0L yet? I'm not sure how much testing you've completed so far.
A few factors to consider, headers, Static Compression (more to the point the Dynamic Compression Ratio)...but for a 6.0 liter here's what I'd build or recommend.
SCR 11.2-11.5 (DCR=8.6-8.9)
1 7/8" headers x 28-32 long primaries and a merge collector
4.10:1 gears
...cam mildest for this - 234 / 242 @.050 .644 / .652 - 113+3 - great all around from 3,500-7,200 RPM - big lope, pretty good street manners - but I'd stay out of So Cal bumper-to-bumper 405 traffic.
...cam wildest - - 242 / 248 @.050 .656 / .666 - 114+2 - serious street and drag race 4,000-7,500 RPM - nasty sounding, great to cruise the boulevards and race - but otherwise...
A few factors to consider, headers, Static Compression (more to the point the Dynamic Compression Ratio)...but for a 6.0 liter here's what I'd build or recommend.
SCR 11.2-11.5 (DCR=8.6-8.9)
1 7/8" headers x 28-32 long primaries and a merge collector
4.10:1 gears
...cam mildest for this - 234 / 242 @.050 .644 / .652 - 113+3 - great all around from 3,500-7,200 RPM - big lope, pretty good street manners - but I'd stay out of So Cal bumper-to-bumper 405 traffic.
...cam wildest - - 242 / 248 @.050 .656 / .666 - 114+2 - serious street and drag race 4,000-7,500 RPM - nasty sounding, great to cruise the boulevards and race - but otherwise...
You read my mind. I just ordered a 234 / 242 cam (Pat G) on EPS lobes on a 112+2 (IIRC) so that sounds like a decent combo after a few other bills are paid. This means I would have to sell my catherdal FAST 102 but I'm sure that would be a breeze.
You read my mind. I just ordered a 234 / 242 cam (Pat G) on EPS lobes on a 112+2 (IIRC) so that sounds like a decent combo after a few other bills are paid. This means I would have to sell my catherdal FAST 102 but I'm sure that would be a breeze.
Thank you-
call me when you are ready to order - it will take 4-5 working days on CNC, Valves,etc. -
Notes:
I'll do some prelim setup on how these stack up on p/v clearance - they will be much more friendlier in this regard, compared to LS3, because these have the 12º valve angle
You can sell the Fast and buy a factory LS7 manifold - you will probably make some money in the exchange
Last edited by C_Williams@RPM; May 1, 2011 at 08:32 PM.
Reason: corrected error 12º was 11º.
call me when you are ready to order - it will take 4-5 working days on CNC, Valves,etc. -
Notes:
I'll do some prelim setup on how these stack up on p/v clearance - they will be much more friendlier in this regard, compared to LS3, because these have the 11° valve angle
You can sell the Fast and buy a factory LS7 manifold - you will probably make some money in the exchange
Excellent point Charlie, forgot about how well the LS7/LS3 are compared to the LS2 needing the FAST.
I'll keep in touch now that I know which way to go
Below 2,500 RPM this type of combination will give up 15-20 ft lbs of torque and feel "soft" compared to a 235 cc head...it will even up from 2,500-4,000 and after that they will absolutely shine.
will they feel any softer down low than stock LS3 heads?
I guess I found my next set of heads for my new combo. Seeing how they are 11 degree heads means I can mill them even more than the LS3s to bump up the compression ratio. I'm really looking into switching over to E85 so I want to get as close to 13:1 compression to fully take advantage. Guess I'll be selling my LS3 topend combo.
I don't recall the exact specs of the cam you sold me (ZZ-014) or would it be better to get a bigger cam. I really want to squeeze as much as I can out of the stock bottom end but I still like to enjoy the car on the streets.
The TFS heads are an LS3 head, but with all the heads coming out in the coming out soon it would be nice to see a good comparo on the same motor. Im building a ls3 based 427 here soon and the only real thing holding me back is head choice. TSP is making a small bore LS7 style head along with an LS3 head. Then there is you guy's small bore 7 head. So this is a good time be paying attention.
What's the valve angle on these heads and do they accept stock LS7 rockers? I've been looking for a LS7 small bore head for my LS2 402. It's an A4 car with a Circle D 5C stall and shifts at 7200 rpms.
What's the valve angle on these heads and do they accept stock LS7 rockers? I've been looking for a LS7 small bore head for my LS2 402. It's an A4 car with a Circle D 5C stall and shifts at 7200 rpms.
LS7 Valve Angle -12º - I looked at the design sheets to be sure - now I feel like dunce because Iv'e got to look over some previous posts and make a correction - I've been stating 11º and I need to correct that.
So yes, 12º - and all the LS7 1.8:1 rockers are a bolt on.
LS7 Valve Angle -12º - I looked at the design sheets to be sure - now I feel like dunce because Iv'e got to look over some previous posts and make a correction - I've been stating 11º and I need to correct that.
So yes, 12º - and all the LS7 1.8:1 rockers are a bolt on.
Thanks. Anxious to see some testing on these heads. Need a test subject?
Thanks. Anxious to see some testing on these heads. Need a test subject?
I've got several LS3 projects in-house, so I don't need any of those.
If you have a 6.0 or a 402, I'd possibly be open. But, bear in mind that this much cylinder head (on a 6.0) needs a truly optimized setup and 4.10:1 gears.