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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 09:44 AM
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My 2005 Z51 has been aligned 3 times in the last year, and it still does not feel right. All 3 times it has been done by very repudable shops, and the aligned within spec perfectly. Then after a few weeks the car starts pulling to the right again. It has always been to the right.

I have checked the coilover ride height, tire pressure, etc. but this car just will not stop pulling to the right. I have visabley checked the right side to make sure nothing is bent or broken and everything seems ok.

It's driving me crazy.
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within spec perfectly
That is your problem Factor specs are TOO wide. and I bet it was also aligned for crowned road.

find a flat parking lot. see if it pulls to the right there. If it does not it is aligned.

May guess is your driving on a crowned road and the car pulls are falls down the crown

or drive in the left lane of a four lane road. see how it feels in the left lane.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 10:04 AM
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That is your problem Factor specs are TOO wide. and I bet it was also aligned for crowned road.

find a flat parking lot. see if it pulls to the right there. If it does not it is aligned.

May guess is your driving on a crowned road and the car pulls are falls down the crown

or drive in the left lane of a four lane road. see how it feels in the left lane.
Yeah I have thought is was just the road also, but I drive it in the right lane all the time on a nice flat highway and it still pulls to the right.

I just got it aligned 2 weeks ago, and it's pulling again. Somethign has to be coming out of spec over time. Something isn't torqued good or something.
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You have not posted the settings. It would help if you post the alignment settings, even better, scan and post the alignment printout.
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If not a crown, reads like you have substantial suspension modifications.

I would imagine some componet is loose and moving over time.

Take a service manual and torque wrench under the Vette and re-torque every bolt in the suspension including the cross member, sway bars, shock mounts etc. A visual check wound do it....need to torque and physically measure.

Could also be a failed bushing. Steering box issue? Wheel bearing/hub? caliper drag?

Also of help to us would be what the before and after alignment specs are once that 3 week time passes. For example does everything stay the same spec expect the one left rear caster?
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I will post up the alignment specs tonight.

I only have coil overs on the car. It does have the Z51 package on it, but other than this, the coil overs are the only mods.

I am going to take it back to the shot Thursday for them to looks at the alignment again. It will be interesting to see if the alignment is off again.
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Originally Posted by Tim05C6Z51
I will post up the alignment specs tonight.

I only have coil overs on the car. It does have the Z51 package on it, but other than this, the coil overs are the only mods.

I am going to take it back to the shot Thursday for them to looks at the alignment again. It will be interesting to see if the alignment is off again.
A tire with shifted belts can behave like that. Temporarily swap the front tires, if the pull is gone or pulls to the opposite side, then it's a tire issue.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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Post up the numbers if you can.
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Originally Posted by REVAK
A tire with shifted belts can behave like that. Temporarily swap the front tires, if the pull is gone or pulls to the opposite side, then it's a tire issue.
I have seen this quite a few times. Once on my 05. It was a rear tire that caused the pull. If rotating the fronts doesn't do it try the rears also. Later! Frank
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Rotating the tires isn't in the cards. The fronts and rears are different sizes.

I would have to buy new tires to test this.

The tires are brand new though. Maybe 3000 miles on them.
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Rotate the fronts left to right and right to left. Some tires are directional but that won't matter for this test. Later! Frank
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I can do that.

The tires are directional, but I will give that a shot.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim05C6Z51
Rotating the tires isn't in the cards. The fronts and rears are different sizes.

I would have to buy new tires to test this.

The tires are brand new though. Maybe 3000 miles on them.
Tim, Frank had the answer. Unless you are sure the Discount Tire man put the same tire on the right side when they mounted the new wheels. check and be sure the rotation arrows are right. Your other option is have Discount swap front tires on wheels. I will bet a Miller Lite your alignment is just where the invoice and print out show it.
Rear tires have the same potential for trouble. I found this out on aircraft the expensive way. and recently my Dodge Ram. had the dealer align it all was good, got bored one day and rotated tires pulled one direction so went back to dealer and had alignment checked it was perfect. swapped 2 front tires and it went down the road like on rails.
Your tires can scrub a set to them in less than 100 miles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless you hit a open manhole I would start with Discount Tire. Tell Bob howdy from me at Ruf !!!!!!!!!!
Tireolgy is facinating but unforgiving some times as others have said.
Good Luck
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Originally Posted by Cherokeedoc
Tim, Frank had the answer. Unless you are sure the Discount Tire man put the same tire on the right side when they mounted the new wheels. check and be sure the rotation arrows are right. Your other option is have Discount swap front tires on wheels. I will bet a Miller Lite your alignment is just where the invoice and print out show it.
Rear tires have the same potential for trouble. I found this out on aircraft the expensive way. and recently my Dodge Ram. had the dealer align it all was good, got bored one day and rotated tires pulled one direction so went back to dealer and had alignment checked it was perfect. swapped 2 front tires and it went down the road like on rails.
Your tires can scrub a set to them in less than 100 miles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless you hit a open manhole I would start with Discount Tire. Tell Bob howdy from me at Ruf !!!!!!!!!!
Tireolgy is facinating but unforgiving some times as others have said.
Good Luck
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I am 100% sure the tire's are on the correct side for proper rotation.

It will be interesting to see if the alignment is off Thursday. That will tall me that something is coming out of spec.
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I will be interested to see the latest alignment printout also. Caster can also cause a pull but it will take more than with camber. Later! Frank
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Here is the alignment print out from 2 weeks ago. It will be interesting to see how it looks this Thursday when I get it checked out again.

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That is actually a very good alignment and should not pull either way on a flat road. Later! Frank
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:26 AM
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Not really

Camber is OFF both front that is why it pulls.

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left -.55
right -.43 just enough to pull right

Camber should be -.75 on BOTH SIDES EXACT not a RANGE

Rear is OK
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