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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 12:35 AM
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I check every now and again to see if anyone has positive or negative experience after they installed the Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger on their otherwise stock C-6. I'm getting pretty close to purchasing a unit and would like as much firsthand experience, pros and cons, as I can get. I have decided on the E Force so we don't need to get into a discussion here about other units or turbos. If I'm going to install a supercharger, I feel the E-Force is the best bang for the buck. That being said, I have some basic questions for those of you out there that have the E-Force on an LS2 or LS3. My car is an 06 LS2. Other than installing the Edelbrock E Force, which comes with larger fuel injectors, fuel pump and a free flowing air cleaner, I want to keep my driveline stock. I have no plans to strip race my car, just reasonable (well, most of the time) weekend enjoyment on the streets. Are there any concerns about destroying my stock clutch or other components? I want good street ability and it needs to be reliable an give me trouble free enjoyment for at least another 40,000 miles or so. Will I have driveline or other maintenance problems? Can my stock clutch and 6 speed transmission handle it? If it’s going to likely cause problems or destroy my clutch, I may just go with a two year old Z06.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 05:17 AM
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Curious on what you decide. OEM zo6 is a smart choice too
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I can not speak for the clutch or tranny, as my car is an 07 auto. I can say that after about 5000 trouble free miles with the eforce I would not do it any other way. Reliable, amazing low end torque (fun factor), and basically drives like stock if you don't push it.
Good luck and enjoy whichever choice you make.
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I can not speak for the clutch or tranny, as my car is an 07 auto. I can say that after about 5000 trouble free miles with the eforce I would not do it any other way. Reliable, amazing low end torque (fun factor), and basically drives like stock if you don't push it.
Good luck and enjoy whichever choice you make.
to all of the above with my 07 A6 with 4000 miles on it.
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The unit is great IF you don't diesel. IT seems that in order to NOT diesel, I might need to install LT headers. Another $1K into the black hole.


Search the FI forum on my name and "diesel". Bring a comfortable chair, it is a very long read.

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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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i'm leaning towards the e-foce for my wifes 05 auto
i'm looking for the most torque since i dont want to change rear gears or TC at this time
not to mention fits under the stock hood too

does anyone offer an upgraded intercooler for this? like maybe larger from edelbrock offers? i just figured if i was at it, might as well put a larger one in or more efficient
wonder if the whipple one would work
that looked larger

one thing i am deciding on is wether to go with the higher HP kit and deal with dropping the gas tanks, heard its a real PITA on an auto car
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
The unit is great IF you don't diesel. IT seems that in order to NOT diesel, I might need to install LT headers. Another $1K into the black hole.


Search the FI forum on my name and "diesel". Bring a comfortable chair, it is a very long read.

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Back in the day, my high compression pontiac would do it. I'd just kill it in gear.
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Back in the day, my high compression pontiac would do it. I'd just kill it in gear.
Back in OUR day we had carbs, distributors, idle stop solenoids, points, and condensers too! I gave up the in gear lurch to stop my car a long time ago!

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I'm one of those who believes that GM employs engineers for a reason other then to occupy a cubical.

You presently have 400 lbs-ft of torque. With the 599 HP version on the E-Force you will have 547 lbs-ft of torque, a 37% increase.

The ZR1, with 638 HP has 595 lbs-ft of torque, just a little higher then the E-Force. The GM engineers decided that the ZR1 should have a dual disc clutch to handle the increased torque. Figure on around $2,000-$2,200 for a LS9x clutch, installed.

How well the transmission and differential and half shafts hold up, depends on how you drive the car. Again, the GM engineers beefed up the Z06/ZR1 transmission/differential/half shafts to handle the increased HP/torque over the base 400 Hp/400 lbs-ft engine

In addition, you will be putting an additional load on your radiator. If you like to drive in the summer and live where then temps get a little hot, and like your A/C to work, then figure on a new larger aftermarket radiator.

But when you get finished, you will have a sweet car.
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I AGREE! I have 450 RWHP the HARD way. Cam/Heads/Intake manifold/tune.

The very FIRST component to complain was the STOCK C5 ZO6 Clutch.


I reciently purchased an 2011 Grans Sport Vert. When the wife needs MORE POWER,, Im going to see Corvettes of Westchester for an E-FORCE UP GRADE!



I expect that I will soon need some drive train reinforcements after the HP INCRASE!

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I agree with Joe to a point.

The ZR1 has a lot more than that thrown at it...different block material, different head material, larger fuel lines, different ECU, more advanced fuel controls, clutch, torque tube, diff, trans, axles, wheel bearings....the list goes on and on.

The other thing you have to think about GM has to build this car to stand up to how anyone is going to drive it, and then put a 5 year, 100,000 mile power train warranty on it...so yes they are going to go above and beyond stepping it up.


With that being said, a lot of it is going to depend on how you drive the car what you are going to see for wear life on things like the clutch...

With the units we have installed here, they have done a very good job of trying to cover all of the basis to make a safe, conservative kit for the cars. This isn't a max effort supercharger but a good kick in the paints so to speak on beefing up the power of the car.

We have done LS2 and LS3 with great success with normal street cars and they are a nice safe car to drive.
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Originally Posted by Anthony @ LGMotorsports
I agree with Joe to a point.

The ZR1 has a lot more than that thrown at it...different block material, different head material, larger fuel lines, different ECU, more advanced fuel controls, clutch, torque tube, diff, trans, axles, wheel bearings....the list goes on and on.

The other thing you have to think about GM has to build this car to stand up to how anyone is going to drive it, and then put a 5 year, 100,000 mile power train warranty on it...so yes they are going to go above and beyond stepping it up.


With that being said, a lot of it is going to depend on how you drive the car what you are going to see for wear life on things like the clutch...

With the units we have installed here, they have done a very good job of trying to cover all of the basis to make a safe, conservative kit for the cars. This isn't a max effort supercharger but a good kick in the paints so to speak on beefing up the power of the car.

We have done LS2 and LS3 with great success with normal street cars and they are a nice safe car to drive.



I have a tvs2300 on a 2010 GS (Callaway). The stock tires will slip way before the clutch will. Driving responsibly and skipping the sticky tires will go a long way.
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Originally Posted by Bosscar9er
I check every now and again to see if anyone has positive or negative experience after they installed the Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger on their otherwise stock C-6. I'm getting pretty close to purchasing a unit and would like as much firsthand experience, pros and cons, as I can get. I have decided on the E Force so we don't need to get into a discussion here about other units or turbos. If I'm going to install a supercharger, I feel the E-Force is the best bang for the buck. That being said, I have some basic questions for those of you out there that have the E-Force on an LS2 or LS3. My car is an 06 LS2. Other than installing the Edelbrock E Force, which comes with larger fuel injectors, fuel pump and a free flowing air cleaner, I want to keep my driveline stock. I have no plans to strip race my car, just reasonable (well, most of the time) weekend enjoyment on the streets. Are there any concerns about destroying my stock clutch or other components? I want good street ability and it needs to be reliable an give me trouble free enjoyment for at least another 40,000 miles or so. Will I have driveline or other maintenance problems? Can my stock clutch and 6 speed transmission handle it? If it’s going to likely cause problems or destroy my clutch, I may just go with a two year old Z06.
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+1 as to best bang for buck?? - No, but I do like the E-Force...

IMO - the stock clutch will be punished in short order if I was the one enjoying it on weekends. The T-56 might get pounded/ rattled too. OTOH - unless you are really aggressive you will probably understand as these are beginning to fail.

GLW decision.

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Finally people are chiming in.

Best bang for the buck? Really??

I've always considered it the most expensive blower with the least to show for it.
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Best bang for the buck? Really??

I've always considered it the most expensive blower with the least to show for it.
For clarity on my response ---->>>> Guess it was not clear at (NO and) plus 1 for the crazy guy icon.... / edited prev response. Life is good.

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Originally Posted by Bosscar9er
I check every now and again to see if anyone has positive or negative experience after they installed the Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger on their otherwise stock C-6. I'm getting pretty close to purchasing a unit and would like as much firsthand experience, pros and cons, as I can get. I have decided on the E Force so we don't need to get into a discussion here about other units or turbos. If I'm going to install a supercharger, I feel the E-Force is the best bang for the buck. That being said, I have some basic questions for those of you out there that have the E-Force on an LS2 or LS3. My car is an 06 LS2. Other than installing the Edelbrock E Force, which comes with larger fuel injectors, fuel pump and a free flowing air cleaner, I want to keep my driveline stock. I have no plans to strip race my car, just reasonable (well, most of the time) weekend enjoyment on the streets. Are there any concerns about destroying my stock clutch or other components? I want good street ability and it needs to be reliable an give me trouble free enjoyment for at least another 40,000 miles or so. Will I have driveline or other maintenance problems? Can my stock clutch and 6 speed transmission handle it? If it’s going to likely cause problems or destroy my clutch, I may just go with a two year old Z06.
I have E Force on 2010 Grand Sport Automatic and absolutely love it, I dont race or even drive it that hard but love the response it comes on smooth and other than much more torque it drives stock
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Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
Finally people are chiming in.

Best bang for the buck? Really??

I've always considered it the most expensive blower with the least to show for it.
HP/$ your never going to beat nitrous...

With that being said...it does make some pretty strong gains across the board, but it isn't a cheap upgrade.

Compared to other blowers, it drives a lot differently and has it's own set of benefits and draw backs.

Take a centrifugal blower like a ProCharger/Votec unit. They make awesome PEAK numbers and make a lot of top end...more so than the E-force. For those guys spinning the cars up in the RPM's it makes a lot of since to do it. They will also support a lot more HP than what this will.

The E-force is going to be more suited for someone that wants power, no drivablity changes and wants the car to drive like a big block. They make so much more boost lower in the RPM's and thus make more torque and HP lower in the RPM range that they make for a very fun street car that isn't going to see 5000-7000 RPM all day long.

The new Maggie blowers work the same way, just like the Whipple blowers and they will make more peak power too, but you have to deal with the hood and painting which not everyone wants to do.



It's like every other modification. Make a list of what you want, your budget and go from there.

Always glad to help.
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Mine will have been on for 1 year and about 10k miles later this month. Passed inspection last month without issue. My car also has headers w/cats and the LS9 cam. I did hurt my A6 trans, but that was at least partially my fault. Everything else has been fine. The car has been just as reliable and drivable as stock, just a lot more fun. This is my DD and the extra torque is usable all the time. When I want it to scream, it will do so.

Since I got a good price on it and did the install, I think the cost was reasonable. If I had to pay full price and have it installed, my opinion is that it is just too expensive.

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