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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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I have searched but have not found a solution. Push in clutch pedal, press start button, and as the tack and speedo needles sweep to the right and then back, the engine immediately revs to, by my guess, at least three, four, or more thousand rpms before dropping to the nine hundred idle it is set at. The colder the ambient temperatures the worse it is. If the engine is warm the overreving is not so bad, sometimes hardly at all. I have been easing the clutch out in gear so as not to grenade the engine, but I need to fix this. Checked for intake air leaks and could not find any. There seems to be an engine temperature factor involved. I have not done anything to the pretty heavily modified engine for a couple of months or so. This is driving me nuts, please help. Thanks.
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It's in your tune. Your cold start tables are quite a bit different than your hot start tables. Tell whoever tunes your car that you'd like him to tune it to fall more quickly into idle on cold start up.
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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It's in your tune. Your cold start tables are quite a bit different than your hot start tables. Tell whoever tunes your car that you'd like him to tune it to fall more quickly into idle on cold start up.


It sounds like the cold area of your start up idle airflow tables
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Thanks SlickShoes. Taylor at Dallas Performance did the tune several months ago, and the problem started quite a while after that and before the outside temp dropped below sixty or so. Because of those factors I am leaning away from the problem being the tune, but I am running out of ideas.
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Thanks TTZO6VETTE, well, you make it two for two, guess I need to start leaning the other way.
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Let me explain the problem a bit better, it is not that the idle falls too slowly, the problem is that the rpms get so high to begin with when the engine starts, once the engine starts and overrevs, it then falls to the preset idle fairly quickly.
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Make a vid of it doing it.
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Base idle airflow, and cranking airflow are too high in the cooler temps. Does it have a nick williams TB, or hole in the throttle body?
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Originally Posted by Bobby @ LG Motorsports
Base idle airflow, and cranking airflow are too high in the cooler temps. Does it have a nick williams TB, or hole in the throttle body?
Stock TB and no hole in the butterfly valve. I have looked and did not see a hole in the throttle body. Thanks all, looks like it is three for three on the tune. I will try to post a video, but it won't show much, other than a lot of racket for several seconds after start up or unless I ease out the clutch in gear.
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Let me explain the problem a bit better, it is not that the idle falls too slowly, the problem is that the rpms get so high to begin with when the engine starts, once the engine starts and overrevs, it then falls to the preset idle fairly quickly.
Know exactly what you mean. When I said fall back into idle more quickly, I meant quickly as in before it even gets a chance to surge so high- not as in, a slow descent from 4k. Sorry for not being more concise, myself.

Get back with Taylor and he'll fix you right up, I'm sure. Very well liked and capable tuner per all the Texas guys. New temps bring out all sorts of little nuances in a car's tune.

Thanks to Bobby @ LG too for pinpointing the exact tables.

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I had Chuck tune my '08 when he came to Texas a few years ago. No issues with weather at all. Tuners will always tell you they can tune as well as others, but it's unfortunately not true. Call Chuck.
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