Chinese Knock Offs
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they basically all look similar
what do they expect?newer vendors to make them out of square tube?dont see Firestone whining about Goodyear tires being round
Last edited by irok; Nov 27, 2013 at 06:19 PM.
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Nick maybe if you route them out the fenders or hood under the a frames, or make them 3 piece, but its limited space at the opening of the tunnel with the shields i have tried many and hands down the kooks was the easiest installation, just saying i dont no if its a knock off or not, but i tried a set, and stanger 383 has a set on his Z06
I'm here warning people that there are direct Chinese knockoffs of ARH header systems being sold.
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your doing the same!
your doing the same.whose headers are yours a knock off of.you didnt invent headers!plus your charging 2 or 3 times what others are.we dont owe you a living.we have to work hard for our money and spend it on what we think is appropriate.
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Nick, your company - American Racing Headers (ARH) - is a 1st class act in customer service, quality, fitment and price! I have your long tube headers on both my Mustang and Corvette C5. It's a shame foreign companies are allowed to rip-off American intellectual property, patents and copyrights as they use child labor, prisoners and low paid workers to compete with American families trying to earn modest wages in our country supported by fools that buy these foreign copies, and then complain about why America is no longer manufacturing quality goods. Some people don't understand the time and money it takes to do proper R&D to prototype and manufacture a quality built header that has ZERO fitment issues. Hang in there Nick and take them to court.
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Nick, your company - American Racing Headers (ARH) - is a 1st class act in customer service, quality, fitment and price! I have your long tube headers on both my Mustang and Corvette C5. It's a shame foreign companies are allowed to rip-off American intellectual property and copyrights as they use child labor, prisoners and low paid workers to compete with American families trying to earn modest wages in our country supported by fools that buy these foreign copies, and then complain about why America is no longer manufacturing quality goods. Some people don't understand the time and money it takes to do proper R&D to prototype and manufacture a quality built header that has ZERO fitment issues. Hang in there Nick and take them to court.
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It's not a matter of buying USA vs. foreign products, e.g.,. Chevrolet vs. BMW. Can someone provide an example of a car company producing a 100% clone of a competitors car? Nope. Copyrights, trademarks, intellectual property, patents and R&D investments matter. Cheap Chinese knock-offs screw businesses from all nations. Unfortunately, many would rather give their money to the CHICOMS scammers while screwing hardworking business people to save a few bucks.
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So your saying that AR are knock offs. And what price do you think he should be selling them at.. Cat-backs are more or just as much as headers and they maybe get 5 to the wheels... WHAT BRAND DO YOU RECOMMEND FOR CORVETTES..I want the best and good quality, not saying cheaper ones are no good just having an 80 100k car I'm not going to stick on 300 dollar headers..
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When a company makes a 100% clone of another companies long tube header given all the various design possibilities, such as flange and pipe thickness, tube and collector diameter size, pipe lengths, welding techniques, fitment and routing of pipes, the location of 02 sensors, location of mandrel bends, etc., you have to ask yourself, "What kind of company do I want to give my hard earned money to? A reputable shop or a fraud/thief? And if that person gives their money to the fraud, what does that say about that person? Just saying...
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When a company makes a 100% clone of another companies long tube header given all the various design possibilities, such as flange and pipe thickness, tube and collector diameter size, pipe lengths, welding techniques, fitment and routing of pipes, the location of 02 sensors, location of mandrel bends, etc., you have to ask yourself, "What kind of company do I want to give my hard earned money to? A reputable shop or a fraud/thief? And if that person gives their money to the fraud, what does that say about that person? Just saying...
and just how many parts are made in china & mexico and everywhere else on your vette