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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Guys I'm not going to mention names but our C6 systems have been knocked off again. This will be the 4th time. I ask that you're careful of any deals too good to be true. These are systems purchased at pennies to the dollar and sold at a premium. They also claim to make more power than the originals they completely copied which is a joke in itself.
Bottom line, if it looks like an ARH system but sold by another supposed manufacturer, they are direct knock offs!

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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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Can you give us hint who it is so that we don't buy them?

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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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Can you give us hint who it is so that we don't buy them?

Thanks
As much as I'd love to, forum rules don't allow me to point out the obvious and I don't want this thread closed. My main concern is forum members being mislead and being ripped off.

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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 08:19 PM
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I know Stanger383 flew with them

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MIR was great and want to shout out to Gary and RobZ for organizing and to D-rod for the sweet hotel choice.

I was able to get a few decent runs in and run very close to my estimate.(actually a little better)
The track was awesome and I did manage a couple of 60's that I never thought possible in a NA heads/cam car! RPM did the A4 conversion and that thing was flawless! When it hooked up it left like a rocket!
1.22-60' !!!!!!!! another was a 1.23. I made 2 passes that were 9.46s with identical 5.97-1/8 mile times. I hoped to break 140 mph and got close a few times with 139.93 mph. This car drives very nice on the street and is very docile until you get with it.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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Can you divulge at least whether it is a "premium forum vendor" brand or some other brand such as can be found on eBay?
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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Rhymes with.....??
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:39 PM
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This is a forum vendor thus the issue with exposing them here. I will make an announcement at some point on my website with side by side photo's.

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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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I don't track my car, and I'm not particularly technical here, but wouldn't the PTB on this forum want to know if one of their vendors are selling substandard products?

If not, then I would be less likely to buy anything a vendor put on this site. A little trust goes a long way, a broken trust goes much further.



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This is a forum vendor thus the issue with exposing them here. I will make an announcement at some point on my website with side by side photo's.

Nick
Is there a way that they can get banned for this. I'm tired of vendors that are in the wrong and get called out on issues and we the customer gets the shaft or warning by the mods... I hope they get fined or kicked off the forums...good luck.
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I don't track my car, and I'm not particularly technical here, but wouldn't the PTB on this forum want to know if one of their vendors are selling substandard products?

If not, then I would be less likely to buy anything a vendor put on this site. A little trust goes a long way, a broken trust goes much further.



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Lisa I've been screaming this from the hilltops for years. Clearly getting that monthly payment is far more important than standing up for those that are being screwed. I consider ARH the premier header company for any application we chose to build header systems for. The folks that run this site know this very well. It amazes me that they won't allow me to point out the #¥?#%& obvious. At the end of the day it's their own forum members they'd be looking out for. Imagine that.

Not sure how much longer this thread will last but if it's pulled you'll know why. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:27 AM
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"VaraRam"????? I think. They look just like ARH's. If I'm wrong...I appologise.

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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 09:16 AM
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Can you sue them?
I am not ruling that out. At this moment I prefer to inform all forum members to be wary of any C6 header system that looks like ours. I also request coming to our site www.americanracingheaders.com later today where I'll have side by side pictures on the homepage.

At this point I believe it's pretty clear that we're fed up with this and any group looking to knock off ARH products will be exposed.

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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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My ebay headers fit like crap but make great power!
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Originally Posted by AR Headers
I am not ruling that out. At this moment I prefer to inform all forum members to be wary of any C6 header system that looks like ours. I also request coming to our site www.americanracingheaders.com later today where I'll have side by side pictures on the homepage.

At this point I believe it's pretty clear that we're fed up with this and any group looking to knock off ARH products will be exposed.

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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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My ebay headers fit like crap but make great power!
Congratulations! When they fall apart eventually and you want a pair that fit great, where just a phone call away.

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Originally Posted by AR Headers
Congratulations! When they fall apart eventually and you want a pair that fit great, where just a phone call away.

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You're my first choice!
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Originally Posted by CUSVT
You're my first choice!
You live down the street from LG, but I think his are made in China.

Does anyone know?
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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These are what mine look like. I bought them locally from a non vendor. They are from china and are stainless. But new for 250.00 lol
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Originally Posted by CUSVT
These are what mine look like. I bought them locally from a non vendor. They are from china and are stainless. But new for 250.00 lol
worth every penny I know some that have them and making great 1/4 times and mph, I have done testing on three different brands, Dyno and 1/4 I wont tell who is the best until i get all of them tested, I bought my first set and the others were donated by the companies, other companies gave a firm commitment to send but its been 6 months and haven't seen them yet, and yes their is a difference in tq and power, with et mph and of course fitment
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