Remote clutch bleeder install
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Remote clutch bleeder install
My Z06 is a 2007 and a few years back I started having problems with the clutch. When it got tot the point where the pedal started sticking to the floor I did some research and found the classic Ranger post:That bought the clutch back to normal.
However, over the last few months my clutch started feeling funny and the Ranger Method wasn't helping so I decided to investigate installing a remote bleeder.
Based on forum posts and pictures I got a Katech KAT-A4824. I wasn't sure I'd be able to install it but I figured having it in the car would be useful if it ever ended up at the dealer with the clutch out.
Getting to the point where I had to do something I did some research. I immediately found that the factory service manuals says to remove the cats and that involves raising the engine slightly. But I also saw forum posts that hinted it was possible without removing the cats. Last weekend I convinced myself to give it a try.
I put the car up in the air with my jackstands set to 15.5". Removing the intermediate pipes wasn't too bad and the tunnel plate is easy. At this point I could get both hands and a fair numbers of fingers up around the bleeder. There is a lot of thick aluminized insulation near the bleeder that I crushed to get access. I got the bleeder out and started seeing a little bit of black fluid leak out (possibly picking up dust from inside the bell housing) but not too quickly. I suspect plugging the hole in the reservoir or sealing the reservoir might prevent this. Maybe next time.
To prevent dropping the adapter down the housing I left it attached to the hose. After a few tries I got the adapter in the hole and started threading it in. I made the most progress with the open end of a 3/8 ignition wrench (craftsman 42328) but eventually there wasn't a lot of the adapter sticking out of the housing so I removed the hose and used the boxed end. If I were doing this again I think I'd buy either a spare ignition wrench or a regular 12 point and heat it up and flatten the boxed end and then grind it flat so that the teeth would immediately the adapter.
Anyway, I got the fitting snugged up and then slid on a 30" piece of 1/2" Thermo-Tec Cool It (18051-50). I ty-wrap'ed this to the clutch hard line right where the silver heat shield is.
Bleeding was interesting. I did it one man using a Irwin 32" clamp/spreader (with some padding) to hold the clutch pedal down from the steering wheel. I think all of the air came out the first time I cracked the bleeder. I kept at it to try and flush any junk out but I think all of the bad stuff leaked out while I was working on getting the fitting installed. Anyway I would pump it several times to build up some pressure and then use the spreader to hold the pedal down down. One thing I wasn't expecting but makes sense is that after opening the bleeder, the pedal would always stay on the floor. But a few pumps would get it to return by itself.
End result: my clutch is back to normal!
Here's a picture:
(full size)
However, over the last few months my clutch started feeling funny and the Ranger Method wasn't helping so I decided to investigate installing a remote bleeder.
Based on forum posts and pictures I got a Katech KAT-A4824. I wasn't sure I'd be able to install it but I figured having it in the car would be useful if it ever ended up at the dealer with the clutch out.
Getting to the point where I had to do something I did some research. I immediately found that the factory service manuals says to remove the cats and that involves raising the engine slightly. But I also saw forum posts that hinted it was possible without removing the cats. Last weekend I convinced myself to give it a try.
I put the car up in the air with my jackstands set to 15.5". Removing the intermediate pipes wasn't too bad and the tunnel plate is easy. At this point I could get both hands and a fair numbers of fingers up around the bleeder. There is a lot of thick aluminized insulation near the bleeder that I crushed to get access. I got the bleeder out and started seeing a little bit of black fluid leak out (possibly picking up dust from inside the bell housing) but not too quickly. I suspect plugging the hole in the reservoir or sealing the reservoir might prevent this. Maybe next time.
To prevent dropping the adapter down the housing I left it attached to the hose. After a few tries I got the adapter in the hole and started threading it in. I made the most progress with the open end of a 3/8 ignition wrench (craftsman 42328) but eventually there wasn't a lot of the adapter sticking out of the housing so I removed the hose and used the boxed end. If I were doing this again I think I'd buy either a spare ignition wrench or a regular 12 point and heat it up and flatten the boxed end and then grind it flat so that the teeth would immediately the adapter.
Anyway, I got the fitting snugged up and then slid on a 30" piece of 1/2" Thermo-Tec Cool It (18051-50). I ty-wrap'ed this to the clutch hard line right where the silver heat shield is.
Bleeding was interesting. I did it one man using a Irwin 32" clamp/spreader (with some padding) to hold the clutch pedal down from the steering wheel. I think all of the air came out the first time I cracked the bleeder. I kept at it to try and flush any junk out but I think all of the bad stuff leaked out while I was working on getting the fitting installed. Anyway I would pump it several times to build up some pressure and then use the spreader to hold the pedal down down. One thing I wasn't expecting but makes sense is that after opening the bleeder, the pedal would always stay on the floor. But a few pumps would get it to return by itself.
End result: my clutch is back to normal!
Here's a picture:
(full size)
Last edited by leres; Mar 25, 2014 at 02:24 AM. Reason: thumbnail/fullsize url wasn't working
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Hey leres, nice report - thanks!!
I have a remote bleeder and have been having some clutch "issues" like you explained. So - I'll have to get out to the garage and get to work bleeding.
Now lemme ask - WHERE YOU BEEN!?!?
I haven't seen you posting in a long time. I do go to your great gear ratio site every so often, but only the first page seems to come up - the links to the other models and years with different ratios don't work for me, although I can still manually put in the different ratios and have it recalculate, and that works.
Again, thanks for the report on the remote clutch bleeder install.
Bob
I have a remote bleeder and have been having some clutch "issues" like you explained. So - I'll have to get out to the garage and get to work bleeding.
Now lemme ask - WHERE YOU BEEN!?!?
I haven't seen you posting in a long time. I do go to your great gear ratio site every so often, but only the first page seems to come up - the links to the other models and years with different ratios don't work for me, although I can still manually put in the different ratios and have it recalculate, and that works.
Again, thanks for the report on the remote clutch bleeder install.
Bob
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I haven't seen you posting in a long time. I do go to your great gear ratio site every so often, but only the first page seems to come up - the links to the other models and years with different ratios don't work for me, although I can still manually put in the different ratios and have it recalculate, and that works.
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That's impressive, first I've heard of someone getting one installed without dropping the torque tube. With the design of the slave in the bellhousing, they should have included a remote bleeder from the factory IMHO. It amazes that Gen 2 CTSV don't even have a bleeder fitting on the slave!
