Meth kit???
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Two ways to attack it, and really comes down to if you want to run a separate meth tank, or just use the window washer fluid tank instead.
Hence are you are planning on using window washer fluid for the meth source, or planing on using 50/50 meth instead.
As for using window washer fluid tank for dual purpose, the nice thing is you can get it at any store when you do a road trip, as well as a bottle of HEAT to bump the meth percentage up to a 50/50 mix if needed. Plus, when you are low on fluid in the washer fluid tank, the dash light will come on and tell you to fill it back up.
Hence are you are planning on using window washer fluid for the meth source, or planing on using 50/50 meth instead.
As for using window washer fluid tank for dual purpose, the nice thing is you can get it at any store when you do a road trip, as well as a bottle of HEAT to bump the meth percentage up to a 50/50 mix if needed. Plus, when you are low on fluid in the washer fluid tank, the dash light will come on and tell you to fill it back up.
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Two ways to attack it, and really comes down to if you want to run a separate meth tank, or just use the window washer fluid tank instead.
Hence are you are planning on using window washer fluid for the meth source, or planing on using 50/50 meth instead.
As for using window washer fluid tank for dual purpose, the nice thing is you can get it at any store when you do a road trip, as well as a bottle of HEAT to bump the meth percentage up to a 50/50 mix if needed. Plus, when you are low on fluid in the washer fluid tank, the dash light will come on and tell you to fill it back up.
Hence are you are planning on using window washer fluid for the meth source, or planing on using 50/50 meth instead.
As for using window washer fluid tank for dual purpose, the nice thing is you can get it at any store when you do a road trip, as well as a bottle of HEAT to bump the meth percentage up to a 50/50 mix if needed. Plus, when you are low on fluid in the washer fluid tank, the dash light will come on and tell you to fill it back up.
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Think about it, when the the last time you actual put wiper fluid in the tank???? Trust me, there are guys that have 5 year old vets with the same fluid that came with the car new since most of us do not drive the car if we even think that it's going to rain that day.
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If and when I install a kit, I plan on using the we tank too. I don't have to mount another tank somewhere and it has a built in level sensor. Now I just have to contact my tuner and convince myself it's worth it.
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I will be selling a snow per. N/a controller probablly in a few days once i confirm my
old controller works. Controller is new but installed havent gor it too work yet...my wirimg messed up....100 plus ship.. 17 rwhp on 50 /50 gain for my z that has 600rwhp..i didnt want to run 100 percent in case of sysrem failure....i installed it. ..not hard when u know how.
old controller works. Controller is new but installed havent gor it too work yet...my wirimg messed up....100 plus ship.. 17 rwhp on 50 /50 gain for my z that has 600rwhp..i didnt want to run 100 percent in case of sysrem failure....i installed it. ..not hard when u know how.
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Good idea save money....I put 1 gallon race fuel (104) or 2 bootles cheap octatne boost $1 each in every tank and 50/50 meth spray. gives me more safety in case of meth fail..Which I didnt wire so good so I had a lot of fails. Mostly fuse blew
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Hi,
We have the N/A Meth kits by AEM. We will be installing one with our new engine build. The controller is a really nice feature and simple to use.
We have been running the FI kit on our Turbo Charged Z28 for a year now with no issues.
http://hstrial-saccitycorvette.homes...ionkitsNA.html
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Christian
We have the N/A Meth kits by AEM. We will be installing one with our new engine build. The controller is a really nice feature and simple to use.
We have been running the FI kit on our Turbo Charged Z28 for a year now with no issues.
http://hstrial-saccitycorvette.homes...ionkitsNA.html
Thanks
Christian
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Check out http://www.alkycontrol.com/
They are best in the business. I did a lot of research on meth kits before I got an alkycontrol kit. I run 100% meth and the car runs perfect. You should also think of running 100% meth. There is a ton of research on this matter. If you decide to run washer fluid, it has to be winter formula.
They are best in the business. I did a lot of research on meth kits before I got an alkycontrol kit. I run 100% meth and the car runs perfect. You should also think of running 100% meth. There is a ton of research on this matter. If you decide to run washer fluid, it has to be winter formula.
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Check out http://www.alkycontrol.com/
They are best in the business. I did a lot of research on meth kits before I got an alkycontrol kit. I run 100% meth and the car runs perfect. You should also think of running 100% meth. There is a ton of research on this matter. If you decide to run washer fluid, it has to be winter formula.
They are best in the business. I did a lot of research on meth kits before I got an alkycontrol kit. I run 100% meth and the car runs perfect. You should also think of running 100% meth. There is a ton of research on this matter. If you decide to run washer fluid, it has to be winter formula.
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No, I'm running a supercharger. I only suggest 100% meth because the wrong fluid going threw a system will cause damage to seals and hoses. It will cause leaks and you will not get the right amount of meth to the motor. This is for alkycontrol's system, but 95% of the kits out there have the same gaskets and hoses. Its a material called santoprene. It is what can handle meth. Anything that is petroleum based, or any windshield washer fluid that has any type of cleaning agent/soap in there should not be used. I don't want to risk my vette with some washer fluid, that some company tells you this is whats in here. The cost of running 100% meth is cheap insurance to not take a guess on washer fluid.
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The research I did said over 50% there wasn't enough gain for the risk. Do you own research.
Here is what AEM says.
Important Safety Notice Regarding Methanol
AEM strongly recommends that users never exceed a 50% methanol concentration when using any AEM Water Methanol system or component.
All AEM Water/Methanol injection systems and components (pump, lines, fittings, filter, flow sensor, tank, and nozzles) are 100% chemically compatible with methanol. However, for safety reasons we strongly recommend that users never use more than a 50% methanol concentration in our systems.
Methanol is a toxic and highly flammable chemical. 100% Methanol ignites easily and burns vigorously with an almost undetectable flame. Methanol can be absorbed through the skin and even small amounts can cause blindness or even death. Using this fluid at high pressures, without dilution, in an under-hood environment with nylon lines and push-to-connect fittings is very unsafe. The performance advantages of using greater than 50% methanol concentrations are small, if they exist at all. However, the safety issues are very real and far outweigh any perceived benefit of running high concentrations of methanol.
Here is what AEM says.
Important Safety Notice Regarding Methanol
AEM strongly recommends that users never exceed a 50% methanol concentration when using any AEM Water Methanol system or component.
All AEM Water/Methanol injection systems and components (pump, lines, fittings, filter, flow sensor, tank, and nozzles) are 100% chemically compatible with methanol. However, for safety reasons we strongly recommend that users never use more than a 50% methanol concentration in our systems.
Methanol is a toxic and highly flammable chemical. 100% Methanol ignites easily and burns vigorously with an almost undetectable flame. Methanol can be absorbed through the skin and even small amounts can cause blindness or even death. Using this fluid at high pressures, without dilution, in an under-hood environment with nylon lines and push-to-connect fittings is very unsafe. The performance advantages of using greater than 50% methanol concentrations are small, if they exist at all. However, the safety issues are very real and far outweigh any perceived benefit of running high concentrations of methanol.
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From what I have read, depending on your engine build, compression and how far you advance the timing typically 5-10% on a N/A engine.
Other benefits are it cleans the carbon off the pistons and valves.
Christian
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I have an idea when the Meth is injected on a boosted car but on a fairly stock N/A engine, what determines when it is injected? Does the Meth system determine that based on ? Or does the tune determine that, or does the Meth system determine when and the tune adjusts based on when the Meth is injected?
Or, a simple explanation of how it works on a N/A engine will help..lol
Or, a simple explanation of how it works on a N/A engine will help..lol
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