COW booster
Melting Slicks
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From: On the east coast we drive until we die
There is a similar product coming out by Vitesse Motorsports that seems to be pretty popular with the Gen5 Camaro crowd and it's half the price of the SprintBooster. If you were actually interested and not just making colorful remarks.
Instructor
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From: Burlington ky
Burning Brakes
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From: Lynchburg VA
I have met Chuck Cow and he is a genuinely nice guy. I spent several hours with him at the October 2014 Corvette Expo in Seveirville, TN while he CoW Boosted and did the initial tune on our '13 Manual Grand Sport. While he was tuning our Vette he had a previous customer that needed a re-tune after American Racing installed a set of their Headers at Corvettes at Carlysle.
After the show was over we went back to another Forum Member's House (Creekside) to finish the tunes on both Corvettes. All in all Chuck spent several hours with me answering questions I didn't even know I had and explained how everything worked. No I could not even begin to explain how any of it works. As we talked I realized that Chuck puts his whole being into the R&D and install of his products.
If anyone put that much effort into anything they do just to have someone that thinks that they know more, or better, or doesn't believe those products didn't get a little upset when explaining for the millionth time, I wouldn't buy from them. Because they obviously don't believe in what they do enough to defend it.
Chuck may be blunt and to the point about everything, but if you get your feelings hurt by someone defending their product it may be time to put your big boy pants on.
After the show was over we went back to another Forum Member's House (Creekside) to finish the tunes on both Corvettes. All in all Chuck spent several hours with me answering questions I didn't even know I had and explained how everything worked. No I could not even begin to explain how any of it works. As we talked I realized that Chuck puts his whole being into the R&D and install of his products.
If anyone put that much effort into anything they do just to have someone that thinks that they know more, or better, or doesn't believe those products didn't get a little upset when explaining for the millionth time, I wouldn't buy from them. Because they obviously don't believe in what they do enough to defend it.
Chuck may be blunt and to the point about everything, but if you get your feelings hurt by someone defending their product it may be time to put your big boy pants on.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2013
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From: Memphis Tn
I dunno I could be wrong but it just seems like most of the ppl that have posted negative things about Chuck are not his customers. I have only read maybe a couple of issues that a customer may have had but there have been quite a few posts knocking what he has to offer..mostly his coW booster as it seems like the common denominator.
Pro
Joined: Jan 2014
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From: NEWPORT NEWS VIRGINIA
I have met Chuck Cow and he is a genuinely nice guy. I spent several hours with him at the October 2014 Corvette Expo in Seveirville, TN while he CoW Boosted and did the initial tune on our '13 Manual Grand Sport. While he was tuning our Vette he had a previous customer that needed a re-tune after American Racing installed a set of their Headers at Corvettes at Carlysle.
After the show was over we went back to another Forum Member's House (Creekside) to finish the tunes on both Corvettes. All in all Chuck spent several hours with me answering questions I didn't even know I had and explained how everything worked. No I could not even begin to explain how any of it works. As we talked I realized that Chuck puts his whole being into the R&D and install of his products.
If anyone put that much effort into anything they do just to have someone that thinks that they know more, or better, or doesn't believe those products didn't get a little upset when explaining for the millionth time, I wouldn't buy from them. Because they obviously don't believe in what they do enough to defend it.
Chuck may be blunt and to the point about everything, but if you get your feelings hurt by someone defending their product it may be time to put your big boy pants on.
After the show was over we went back to another Forum Member's House (Creekside) to finish the tunes on both Corvettes. All in all Chuck spent several hours with me answering questions I didn't even know I had and explained how everything worked. No I could not even begin to explain how any of it works. As we talked I realized that Chuck puts his whole being into the R&D and install of his products.
If anyone put that much effort into anything they do just to have someone that thinks that they know more, or better, or doesn't believe those products didn't get a little upset when explaining for the millionth time, I wouldn't buy from them. Because they obviously don't believe in what they do enough to defend it.
Chuck may be blunt and to the point about everything, but if you get your feelings hurt by someone defending their product it may be time to put your big boy pants on.
Were any of these cars dyno tuned? ( you said back to another forum memeber house to finish tuning, this is the reason I ask based off your statement.)
Were any of these car tuned with a AFR meter hooked up to get the correct afr even on a street testing tune?
Not trying to cause any push back but I am under the impression to tune a vehicle you should always have a Dyno tune done to get the most out of your tune in addition to street tuning it, but always with your AFR being metered. If your tune consist of just ( the Butt dyno or sotp feel you can keep that type of tuning). Based off how it was described in this post it sounds like you got the Butt Dyno tune correct?
I just wanted some clarity is all.
Tech Contributor
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From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
If you install a wide band and use EFI Live Auto Cal, you can tune on the road with precision. Unless you have an eddy current dyno, you’re not going to be able to tune every cell that needs to be tuned. That goes for a regular dyno tune or on the road tune. On a regular dyno tune, where do most of the Tuners spend their time tuning???? WOT for Power Enrichment AFR?? Unless that tuner takes the car ON THE ROAD and does some part throttle tuning, you’re missing a LOT!
The on the road tune more accurately simulates real world driving where you spend 90% of your SEAT TIME.. A couple of WOT runs and you have a very accurate real world PE AFR
The dyno does give you bragging rights on HP/Tq numbers and keeps you out of tripple digits on the road.
Chuck tuned our 06 Z51 Coupe after headers and a vararam install and my wife and I were totally impressed.
The car had a significant gain in power/throttle response AND, I went from the best of 26 MPG to 29 MPG HIGHWAY!
jsucraig
You couldn’t have said it better. Anyone that can come up with this throttle improvement concept, research it, develop it and bring it to fruition and have this much success with it, should defend it!!
GM Designed their throttle by wire system to prevent people from screwing with it and killing themselves or others. I dare you to dig DEEEEEEEP into ALL the layers of the C6 ECU and find all the levels that the throttle control and throttle safety circuits exist in.
Chuck has accomplished that, done it very well and the product retains ALL the safety that you depend on!
There are people on this and other forums that have never met Chuck, never used his booster (even if it was installed for FREE) who still bash his product and DOUBT its success. It’s easy to become a hater even though you have little or no true knowledge how someone is in real everyday life and how much enthusiasm and commitment that he offers.
People still think HP Tuners can produce the same results.
I have the COW Booster. I like it and enjoy what it does for my vehicles. Best thing is, It can be ADJUSTED to whatever you like. More or less sensitivity, sensitivity changes in different TC Modes. If you like the way GM controls your throttle blade, that’s fine. If you want control over the way it opens, get the COW Booster.
Bill Curlee
The on the road tune more accurately simulates real world driving where you spend 90% of your SEAT TIME.. A couple of WOT runs and you have a very accurate real world PE AFR
The dyno does give you bragging rights on HP/Tq numbers and keeps you out of tripple digits on the road.
Chuck tuned our 06 Z51 Coupe after headers and a vararam install and my wife and I were totally impressed.
The car had a significant gain in power/throttle response AND, I went from the best of 26 MPG to 29 MPG HIGHWAY!
jsucraig
You couldn’t have said it better. Anyone that can come up with this throttle improvement concept, research it, develop it and bring it to fruition and have this much success with it, should defend it!!
GM Designed their throttle by wire system to prevent people from screwing with it and killing themselves or others. I dare you to dig DEEEEEEEP into ALL the layers of the C6 ECU and find all the levels that the throttle control and throttle safety circuits exist in.
Chuck has accomplished that, done it very well and the product retains ALL the safety that you depend on!
There are people on this and other forums that have never met Chuck, never used his booster (even if it was installed for FREE) who still bash his product and DOUBT its success. It’s easy to become a hater even though you have little or no true knowledge how someone is in real everyday life and how much enthusiasm and commitment that he offers.
People still think HP Tuners can produce the same results.
I have the COW Booster. I like it and enjoy what it does for my vehicles. Best thing is, It can be ADJUSTED to whatever you like. More or less sensitivity, sensitivity changes in different TC Modes. If you like the way GM controls your throttle blade, that’s fine. If you want control over the way it opens, get the COW Booster.
Bill Curlee
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2013
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From: Memphis Tn
If you install a wide band and use EFI Live Auto Cal, you can tune on the road with precision. Unless you have an eddy current dyno, you’re not going to be able to tune every cell that needs to be tuned. That goes for a regular dyno tune or on the road tune. On a regular dyno tune, where do most of the Tuners spend their time tuning???? WOT for Power Enrichment AFR?? Unless that tuner takes the car ON THE ROAD and does some part throttle tuning, you’re missing a LOT!
The on the road tune more accurately simulates real world driving where you spend 90% of your SEAT TIME.. A couple of WOT runs and you have a very accurate real world PE AFR
The dyno does give you bragging rights on HP/Tq numbers and keeps you out of tripple digits on the road.
Chuck tuned our 06 Z51 Coupe after headers and a vararam install and my wife and I were totally impressed.
The car had a significant gain in power/throttle response AND, I went from the best of 26 MPG to 29 MPG HIGHWAY!
jsucraig
You couldn’t have said it better. Anyone that can come up with this throttle improvement concept, research it, develop it and bring it to fruition and have this much success with it, should defend it!!
GM Designed their throttle by wire system to prevent people from screwing with it and killing themselves or others. I dare you to dig DEEEEEEEP into ALL the layers of the C6 ECU and find all the levels that the throttle control and throttle safety circuits exist in.
Chuck has accomplished that, done it very well and the product retains ALL the safety that you depend on!
There are people on this and other forums that have never met Chuck, never used his booster (even if it was installed for FREE) who still bash his product and DOUBT its success. It’s easy to become a hater even though you have little or no true knowledge how someone is in real everyday life and how much enthusiasm and commitment that he offers.
People still think HP Tuners can produce the same results.
I have the COW Booster. I like it and enjoy what it does for my vehicles. Best thing is, It can be ADJUSTED to whatever you like. More or less sensitivity, sensitivity changes in different TC Modes. If you like the way GM controls your throttle blade, that’s fine. If you want control over the way it opens, get the COW Booster.
Bill Curlee
The on the road tune more accurately simulates real world driving where you spend 90% of your SEAT TIME.. A couple of WOT runs and you have a very accurate real world PE AFR
The dyno does give you bragging rights on HP/Tq numbers and keeps you out of tripple digits on the road.
Chuck tuned our 06 Z51 Coupe after headers and a vararam install and my wife and I were totally impressed.
The car had a significant gain in power/throttle response AND, I went from the best of 26 MPG to 29 MPG HIGHWAY!
jsucraig
You couldn’t have said it better. Anyone that can come up with this throttle improvement concept, research it, develop it and bring it to fruition and have this much success with it, should defend it!!
GM Designed their throttle by wire system to prevent people from screwing with it and killing themselves or others. I dare you to dig DEEEEEEEP into ALL the layers of the C6 ECU and find all the levels that the throttle control and throttle safety circuits exist in.
Chuck has accomplished that, done it very well and the product retains ALL the safety that you depend on!
There are people on this and other forums that have never met Chuck, never used his booster (even if it was installed for FREE) who still bash his product and DOUBT its success. It’s easy to become a hater even though you have little or no true knowledge how someone is in real everyday life and how much enthusiasm and commitment that he offers.
People still think HP Tuners can produce the same results.
I have the COW Booster. I like it and enjoy what it does for my vehicles. Best thing is, It can be ADJUSTED to whatever you like. More or less sensitivity, sensitivity changes in different TC Modes. If you like the way GM controls your throttle blade, that’s fine. If you want control over the way it opens, get the COW Booster.
Bill Curlee
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Burning Brakes
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From: Lynchburg VA
I have couple questions?
Were any of these cars dyno tuned? ( you said back to another forum memeber house to finish tuning, this is the reason I ask based off your statement.)
Were any of these car tuned with a AFR meter hooked up to get the correct afr even on a street testing tune?
Not trying to cause any push back but I am under the impression to tune a vehicle you should always have a Dyno tune done to get the most out of your tune in addition to street tuning it, but always with your AFR being metered. If your tune consist of just ( the Butt dyno or sotp feel you can keep that type of tuning). Based off how it was described in this post it sounds like you got the Butt Dyno tune correct?
I just wanted some clarity is all.
Were any of these cars dyno tuned? ( you said back to another forum memeber house to finish tuning, this is the reason I ask based off your statement.)
Were any of these car tuned with a AFR meter hooked up to get the correct afr even on a street testing tune?
Not trying to cause any push back but I am under the impression to tune a vehicle you should always have a Dyno tune done to get the most out of your tune in addition to street tuning it, but always with your AFR being metered. If your tune consist of just ( the Butt dyno or sotp feel you can keep that type of tuning). Based off how it was described in this post it sounds like you got the Butt Dyno tune correct?
I just wanted some clarity is all.
Drifting
Joined: Sep 2004
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From: S.D. CA
I dunno I could be wrong but it just seems like most of the ppl that have posted negative things about Chuck are not his customers. I have only read maybe a couple of issues that a customer may have had but there have been quite a few posts knocking what he has to offer..mostly his coW booster as it seems like the common denominator.
Drifting
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,912
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From: S.D. CA
I have couple questions?
Were any of these cars dyno tuned? ( you said back to another forum memeber house to finish tuning, this is the reason I ask based off your statement.)
Were any of these car tuned with a AFR meter hooked up to get the correct afr even on a street testing tune?
Not trying to cause any push back but I am under the impression to tune a vehicle you should always have a Dyno tune done to get the most out of your tune in addition to street tuning it, but always with your AFR being metered. If your tune consist of just ( the Butt dyno or sotp feel you can keep that type of tuning). Based off how it was described in this post it sounds like you got the Butt Dyno tune correct?
I just wanted some clarity is all.
Were any of these cars dyno tuned? ( you said back to another forum memeber house to finish tuning, this is the reason I ask based off your statement.)
Were any of these car tuned with a AFR meter hooked up to get the correct afr even on a street testing tune?
Not trying to cause any push back but I am under the impression to tune a vehicle you should always have a Dyno tune done to get the most out of your tune in addition to street tuning it, but always with your AFR being metered. If your tune consist of just ( the Butt dyno or sotp feel you can keep that type of tuning). Based off how it was described in this post it sounds like you got the Butt Dyno tune correct?
I just wanted some clarity is all.
Race Director
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EFI live with add-on Cax file will give you the needed tables to adust.
As for anyone with a locked tune/PCM, good luck with that one if you need to take the car into the dealer and they need to use a Tech II on the car to program something on the car.
As for anyone with a locked tune/PCM, good luck with that one if you need to take the car into the dealer and they need to use a Tech II on the car to program something on the car.
Former Vendor
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From: Ossining New York
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
You're kidding me.....
You're kidding me..... Completely stupid. While that sounds harsh, REALLY DUDE..... You gotta give this game up.
WRONG #1: No EFI LIVE .cax file will permit anyone to install CoW BOOSTER!
WRONG #2: Wile we never lock our tunes, even if a pcm was locked, it does NOT prevent the Dealer's tech II from
scanning or diagnosing someone's vehicle.
Run your comments past an expert before you make silly comments on the internet.
Chuck CoW
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From: Ossining New York
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
Thank you!
Good question. After the initial Cow Booster install and baseline tune at the Expo with the car sitting still the rest of the tuning was all street tune with Chuck sitting beside me with his computer plugged in to my OBD II port watching everything (AFR, knock sensors, O2 sensors, shift points, (even though I have a MZ6 they are still in there), RPM Red Lines, everything the ECU could tell him. The first street tune made the car feel like my old V6 Camaro. He said "ok pull over here it's a little rich here a little lean there I heard a ping at this RPM." I pulled into a parking lot did the shutdown procedure he would tweak the ECU program and we did it all again. Six passes and yes seat of the pants it got stronger every time. I have no doubt that he got the same effect that a Dyno tune would have. I just don't have the numbers to brag about. Other than going from 26.8 MPG to 29.2 MPG Stock 2013 Grand Sport with MZ6, Cow Booster, and CoW Tune.
Thank you! Not only do you get a really fun car to drive, but you also GAIN MILEAGE with a great tune as well!
It's no wonder guys like DANO try so hard pick apart what I do.
Stay "CoW" TUNED!
Chuck CoW
Burning Brakes
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 977
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From: Lynchburg VA
You're kidding me..... Completely stupid. While that sounds harsh, REALLY DUDE..... You gotta give this game up.
WRONG #1: No EFI LIVE .cax file will permit anyone to install CoW BOOSTER!
WRONG #2: Wile we never lock our tunes, even if a pcm was locked, it does NOT prevent the Dealer's tech II from
scanning or diagnosing someone's vehicle.
Run your comments past an expert before you make silly comments on the internet.
Chuck CoW
WRONG #1: No EFI LIVE .cax file will permit anyone to install CoW BOOSTER!
WRONG #2: Wile we never lock our tunes, even if a pcm was locked, it does NOT prevent the Dealer's tech II from
scanning or diagnosing someone's vehicle.
Run your comments past an expert before you make silly comments on the internet.
Chuck CoW
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From: Peoria/Phoenix AZ
C6 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
You're kidding me..... Completely stupid. While that sounds harsh, REALLY DUDE..... You gotta give this game up.
WRONG #1: No EFI LIVE .cax file will permit anyone to install CoW BOOSTER!
WRONG #2: Wile we never lock our tunes, even if a pcm was locked, it does NOT prevent the Dealer's tech II from
scanning or diagnosing someone's vehicle.
Run your comments past an expert before you make silly comments on the internet.
Chuck CoW
WRONG #1: No EFI LIVE .cax file will permit anyone to install CoW BOOSTER!
WRONG #2: Wile we never lock our tunes, even if a pcm was locked, it does NOT prevent the Dealer's tech II from
scanning or diagnosing someone's vehicle.
Run your comments past an expert before you make silly comments on the internet.
Chuck CoW
So Chuckie, did you think Dano523 was talking about you again? Gotta complex there?
Pretty sure he was referring to the previous poster's comment about a totally different person and product.
RIGHT #1. I don't believe he cares about installing your booster, since he never mentioned it.
RIGHT #2. He did say "program", not just simply scanning, which is a whole different ballgame.
Maybe read and try to understand what people post before you make silly responses on the forum.
Race Director
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From: Bergen county NJ
15 years of three new corvettes and about 3 and a half years ago I had the cow booster installed on my otherwise mechanically stock ls3 c6 z51 m6 and I'm still very pleased with the effect this product had on my driving enjoyment of my now 84k mile daily driven utterly reliable corvette.
Just stopping in the thread to recommend this product and to say hello to a great corvette tuner...chuck of corvettes of westchester...
Happy new year and thanks for your fine efforts.
Just stopping in the thread to recommend this product and to say hello to a great corvette tuner...chuck of corvettes of westchester...
Happy new year and thanks for your fine efforts.
Former Vendor
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 11,792
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From: Ossining New York
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14