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wondering what your opinions are on the cow throtle booster? is it worth doing? any bad side effects? I already have a tune with someone else. would this wipe out my tune?
This is the extent of the Cow booster. Its just remapping the throttle body response to the pedal (vain opening amounts and speeds per pedal postion), and tweaking TM numbers so the TM is not trying to over ride the new mapping. Also, the Vet has three different throttle maps (nannies full on, in comp mode, all off), with the throttle responces before more sedate the more you turn off nannies. With remapping, all of these different maps can be adjusted. Lastly, on some cars, the TB vain does not open a full 90* at WOT, and this can be corrected as well.
The tune part you just had done, hence AFR/timing/fuel metering is not touched.
It's what your tuner could not do since he is not using EFI live to have access to the need tables to remap the throttle response tables.
To add, the Throttle table in HP tuner is clock clicks to factory set positions, and not a change to the TB factory set vain amounts. Increasing the tick values only allows the vain to open to the factory set potions faster, but for most of the pedal, the OEM vain opening range are in the lower percentage ranges to begin with for most of the pedal anyways.
Bluntly, it not a throttle by wire the problem by any means on the Vets; it's GM that is programing/mapping the TB to function sedately so the motor feels like it belongs in a Buick on HP build up instead.
If you have a custom tune,it will take it out of balance..Don't waste your money....
The COW Booster doesn't change the tune or limit it one bit!
All it does is allow the ECU to OPEN the throttle faster in relation to the amount of Accelerator peddle that you apply..
We have it on our 11 GS and its makes the car respond a LOT better to your request for more throttle!
The video shows that relationship very well!! My wife loves it! Makes the ENGINE respond like a Vette should!
Bill
Last edited by Bill Curlee; Dec 22, 2014 at 01:17 PM.
wondering what your opinions are on the cow throtle booster? is it worth doing? any bad side effects? I already have a tune with someone else. would this wipe out my tune?
I have COW Booster and tune from another tuner. Love the COW Booster and yes I understand that it does not increase hp, but it makes the car respond the way I want it to respond to gas pedal inputs.
The COW Booster doesn't change the tune or limit it one bit!
All it does is allow the ECU to OPEN the throttle faster in relation to the amount of Accelerator peddle that you apply..
We have it on our 11 GS and its makes the car respond a LOT better to your request for more throttle!
The video shows that relationship very well!! My wife loves it! Makes the ENGINE respond like a Vette should!
Bill
Originally Posted by Driver_WT
I have COW Booster and tune from another tuner. Love the COW Booster and yes I understand that it does not increase hp, but it makes the car respond the way I want it to respond to gas pedal inputs.
Both are good examples of the booster, I have had mine for 3 years and still love it
Dano523 - If have NOT already embarrassed yourself yet....let ME do it for you 4 FREE
Dano523 - If have NOT already embarrassed yourself yet....let ME do it for you 4 FREE
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I was going to jump on your back and embarrass you futher right from GO, but it seems
you've wised yp a bit and edited your post before I could rip into it. good call.
Its just remapping the throttle body response to the pedal (vain opening amounts and speeds per pedal position).
UH, actually... NO.
tweaking TM numbers so the TM is not trying to over ride the new mapping.
Uh, completely WRONG on this one too..... NO.
It's what your tuner could not do since he is not using EFI live to have access to the need tables to remap the throttle response tables.
Hey Boss...Aren't you tired of being totally wrong yet.... As I listen, I think I hear people stating to laugh in the backround....
To add, the Throttle table in HP tuner is clock clicks to factory set positions, and not a change to the TB factory set vain amounts. Increasing the tick values only allows the vain to open to the factory set potions faster, but for most of the pedal, the OEM vain opening range are in the lower percentage ranges to begin with for most of the pedal anyways.
Yes, and this mess you wrote was the winner in my book....WTF was he trying to say back there?
I commend you on gettin all the wires right on your little mousetrap rig up..... That about sums it up and convinces everyone.....
SO, hey man..... Thanks for the great job explaining what you think CoW BOOSTER! is and how it works.
I'm sorry, I can't give you a passing grade this time, but whydoncha come around and take the class agagin maybe you might get it the second time....
Tell ya what.... The next CoW BOOSTER! class will be FREE for you. At-A-BOY - You'll get it right the next time... or so....
Good lookin out!
Chuck CoW
Here's one we never touch. This is the opening "RATE" as it comes from the factory on the C6 cars. The value is maxxed out....(with a warning)
I don't play with it and you shouldn't either.
OH YEAH.... WRONG again.....
Thank you.
Chuck CoW
Last edited by Chuck CoW; Dec 23, 2014 at 10:21 AM.
I always enjoy reading responses from vendors when they feel the need to verbally abuse someone, who they feel is their intellectual inferior, in an attempt to promote their product. It just shows so much more class than explaining the details of how their product actually works.
It appears that when you're selling a product that alters how the mind perceives a result from the movement of the body, you have to first start by convincing them to part with their money.
In the case of throttle modifiers, there is no change in the performance of the car itself, but only in the mind of the person pushing the pedal.
I always enjoy reading responses from vendors when they feel the need to verbally abuse someone, who they feel is their intellectual inferior, in an attempt to promote their product. It just shows so much more class than explaining the details of how their product actually works.
It appears that when you're selling a product that alters how the mind perceives a result from the movement of the body, you have to first start by convincing them to part with their money.
In the case of throttle modifiers, there is no change in the performance of the car itself, but only in the mind of the person pushing the pedal.
Well this isnt true either. I have it and definitely changes the response of the throttle. Night and day difference. I guess you wont know unless you try it.
I always enjoy reading responses from vendors when they feel the need to verbally abuse someone, who they feel is their intellectual inferior, in an attempt to promote their product. It just shows so much more class than explaining the details of how their product actually works.
It appears that when you're selling a product that alters how the mind perceives a result from the movement of the body, you have to first start by convincing them to part with their money.
In the case of throttle modifiers, there is no change in the performance of the car itself, but only in the mind of the person pushing the pedal.
I agree with you bud, bottom line is your are not gaining any other HP or actual performance. You are basically altering the throttle body blade position in relation to the pedal position nothing more nothing less. It does not make your car faster at all.. Its total preception. I think Dano was just giving an example of how he thought it works. It does Seem like cow had to rip on the guy to promote his product in my opionion. I read alot of good about the cow booster but I also read alot more negative off several other forums, that Cow does not respond to. Any reason why? Such as in the HPtuners Forum, or Yellowbullet forum. Is it because your are not a supporting vendor there?
Anyway no need to rip on the guy for trying to explain something that the op was asking about. I am sure this thread will get locked or deleted though.
Last edited by shawnaj7731; Dec 23, 2014 at 01:52 PM.
Maybe my reading comprehension abilities took a day off but I didn't think Dano was slamming or even discrediting CoW or his booster. In fact, the only negative connotation I found in his post was against GM.
I don't know if there is a history between CoW and Dano, but this is the type of response we've all come to expect from Mr. CoW.
Well this isnt true either. I have it and definitely changes the response of the throttle. Night and day difference. I guess you wont know unless you try it.
I said there is no change in the performance of the car itself. Your passenger can't tell any difference, nor can anyone else who is not pushing the go pedal, including the driver of the car next to you who is accelerating at an identical rate.
Maybe my reading comprehension abilities took a day off but I didn't think Dano was slamming or even discrediting CoW or his booster. In fact, the only negative connotation I found in his post was against GM.
I don't know if there is a history between CoW and Dano, but this is the type of response we've all come to expect from Mr. CoW.
Dano's here just about a year. The tearing up has been going on longer than that.
HOX is seemingly correct and altho I risk the same treatment , there is another commercial product out there called Sprint Booster which does similar things. But as said by one of the original posters, it doesn't change the horsepower or torque of the car's engine. It does change the responsiveness of accelerating.
A newer model of the Sprint Booster actually comes with three settings, the top one being pretty instantaneous and from what I read, almost TOO quick and "touchy" to drive. Oh well......
There's also another similar product coming to market that's pretty popular amongst the 5th gen Camaro crowd. I don't think it has the customization of the cow booster but it can be installed/removed by the owner as opposed to having to visit your tuner.
I agree with you bud, bottom line is your are not gaining any other HP or actual performance. You are basically altering the throttle body blade position in relation to the pedal position nothing more nothing less. It does not make your car faster at all.. Its total preception. I think Dano was just giving an example of how he thought it works. It does Seem like cow had to rip on the guy to promote his product in my opionion. I read alot of good about the cow booster but I also read alot more negative off several other forums, that Cow does not respond to. Any reason why? Such as in the HPtuners Forum, or Yellowbullet forum. Is it because your are not a supporting vendor there?
Anyway no need to rip on the guy for trying to explain something that the op was asking about. I am sure this thread will get locked or deleted though.
I don't need to rip on anyone to promote my product... It sells very good by itself.
You should notice that Dano edited his post. From the time I saw it till the time I responded he had removed the more negative
comments he made. Basically every point he made is misleading or completely wrong.
Additionally, we are not sponsors on any other forums as CF keeps us plenty busy.
Everyone that has CoW BOOSTER! loves it and it's out most popular product hands down.
The only negative posts you'll see about it are the people who don't understand it or have not tried it. There are
no customers who post "I got it and I don't like it." Never Happens.
Most of us vendors know full well how to treat customers and potential customers.
No different than with the police, disrespect and insult them and you should expect a good slap back. Don't cry foul.
A big thank you to all the people that compliment and support me! You guys make it rewarding to be a vendor here.
While some or even many may find this throttle improvement meaningful my E46 M3 had a option that did something similiar. Throttle was real touchy. At first it was cool but for street driving it could be annoying. I like the idea of the driver having the option though. It would be good for all out performance on a track.
The COW Booster doesn't change the tune or limit it one bit!
Both are good examples of the booster, I have had mine for 3 years and still love it
, there is another commercial product out there called Sprint Booster which does similar things. But as said by one of the original posters, it doesn't change the horsepower or torque of the car's engine. It does change the responsiveness of accelerating. 
