Dealer blew my engine.
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From: Mattawan MI
Forgot to add, we stopped an the new Chevrolet dealer in Everett and they have a 2016 3LZ Z06 manual and actually reasonably priced at $90k, not a carbon package but black on black. We sat in it and the interior is nice and cool but we both agree we love the C6 interior and especially the gauges. I absolutely would not trade our cluster fo nothing. The only thing I'd like to upgrade is the steering wheel. The newer style with the Grand Sport badge in the center. I'm a C6 guy.
Same here, my friend. I am one of those who truly wouldn't trade my 2013 C6 GS, "even up" (aside from the obvious resale value) for a C7 !!
I was also one of those who mentioned to "run away from from your car" early on - I hope, fervently, that I was wrong !!
The very best of luck with that "black beauty;" Lord knows, your due for a little, having gone through ALL of this.
Cheers and God bless
!!Gary
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From: Chino CA
Nice to see this all worked out for you. Beautiful car. Sounds like you are making up for the lost time. We all know what you are feeling and I think most will agree that the thrill does not go away. I still feel like a kid every time I push that green button. Congratulations on your new Corvette!
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From: lake havasu city arizona
I sincerely love this forum and the people that make up the group. You guys are a great family to have. Thank you for following and giving encouragement. It means a lot to me. We picked up the car yesterday around 4pm and I can't stay out of it. We just got home and we have already put 450 miles on it since yesterday. I love this car and I love driving this car. Sun came out so the top came off so I could hear that Corsa music! Oh what tune they play. Stopped and visited the 2012 centennial edition Z06 and drove it. So sad, today marks its one year of sitting on Roy Robinsons lot. $59,818 is what they have it marked at. 9,xxx miles. Totally loaded. Mag ride and all. Beautiful lonely car. So if you know anyone looking for a stellar beautiful C6 Z06, please, let's try to find this thing a loving home!
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Racer
Joined: Apr 2016
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From: Arlington Wa
Like I said before, even the best techs have hic ups now and again. I haven't gone above 4 grand yet. I go in this Thursday for the oil change, then I can stretch her out. The weather was awesome here this weekend and the wife and I pretty much lived in the vette all three days I had off.
I'm pretty sure we are both hooked on C6's. We found a Chevy dealer that has a 2010 ZR1, 2012 centennial edition Grand Sport with manual transmission, 2011 Z06 and we want to start a hoard.
I've been telling her about the awesome ZR1 and showing her pictures but until she got to see one in person, she didn't get it, she totally gets it now. It's cyber grey and immaculate. I'm pretty sure if I said, let's go get it, she'd totally be with me on it. Start our own C6 hoard. Lol
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From: Chicago IL
Sounds to me like you came out of this better than you were before. The dealership didn't try to replace it with a used LS3, didn't try to do it themselves, didn't try to only replace the engine. They owned up to a mistake that likely cost them more than any profit made on selling the Corvette to you, and did it right.
Keep all the paperwork and documentation of this in a three ring binder if you are worried that someone may question it down the road. This won't hurt your value because it was done right, and if anything would make the vehicle more appealing to me because it has a daisy fresh engine.
Keep all the paperwork and documentation of this in a three ring binder if you are worried that someone may question it down the road. This won't hurt your value because it was done right, and if anything would make the vehicle more appealing to me because it has a daisy fresh engine.
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IMHO - when the replacement engine is installed, and the car is running - and you're there to take delivery - try to take the for a somewhat "extended" test drive before you sign on the dotted line If there are problems - it typically far easier to get them resolved before you sign than after. .
Try out as many systems as possible on the test ride, a tremendous amount of things need to be disassembled to replace an engine in any modern car - let alone a C6 - and even with the best techs around - it's relatively easy to overlook things....
The bottom line is that this is a $10K + job. If you look at the cost of a regular LS3 Crate engine, and the cost for 20 plus hours of labor - you're at about the $10K mark. If you add in all the misc. parts that are going to be changed out as well - the original dealer whose tech screwed up the oil change is losing a lot of money. While he's telling you that he'll pay to have everything done right - you don't know what he's telling the Chevy dealership about what he'll write the check for. Even if the Chevy dealership is going him a favor and giving him a lower labor rate than the public would pay - it's still a whole lot of $$$, and the truth is that much of this work will have to be done by one of the most experienced (read that as most expensive) techs in the service dept. My point here is that whenever there is that much money involved is behooves you to keep your "spidey sense" turned up... Be aware of things that don't seem right.... If possible visually verify that the parts that were supposed to be replaced are in fact new. But ... and this is the important part - if there are problems - they can be corrected. You just want to position yourself to be in the best possible position to have them corrected to your satisfaction.
In all honesty - you already did exactly what I would have suggested - after you had a bit of time to digest what happened - you went out and looked to see if there were other similar cars out there. You didn't find much - so you decided that this car was worth sticking with. You say you plan to keep it for a long while - so the engine replacement that will show up on the "Car-Fax" and it's potential to turn away future buyers isn't all that important to you. OK !!! You did your research, you weighed the alternatives and you made an informed decision !!!
If you have kept up with the news on the C7's - it seems that Chevy failed to properly clear chips after one of the oil passage / oil filter machining operations, and several hundred C7 motors expired (including one that a National Car Mag was testing) as a result. Every one of those new C7 owners got essentially what you're getting here - a new engine (but in the C7 case - I'm sure that the factory authorized only the bare minimum of replacement parts be changed out). At least you had the opportunity to decide if you wanted to stay in the deal - the C7 owners got no choices at all !
I really hope everything works out at least as well as you are hoping for !!!
GOOD LUCK with her and ENJOY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Try out as many systems as possible on the test ride, a tremendous amount of things need to be disassembled to replace an engine in any modern car - let alone a C6 - and even with the best techs around - it's relatively easy to overlook things....
The bottom line is that this is a $10K + job. If you look at the cost of a regular LS3 Crate engine, and the cost for 20 plus hours of labor - you're at about the $10K mark. If you add in all the misc. parts that are going to be changed out as well - the original dealer whose tech screwed up the oil change is losing a lot of money. While he's telling you that he'll pay to have everything done right - you don't know what he's telling the Chevy dealership about what he'll write the check for. Even if the Chevy dealership is going him a favor and giving him a lower labor rate than the public would pay - it's still a whole lot of $$$, and the truth is that much of this work will have to be done by one of the most experienced (read that as most expensive) techs in the service dept. My point here is that whenever there is that much money involved is behooves you to keep your "spidey sense" turned up... Be aware of things that don't seem right.... If possible visually verify that the parts that were supposed to be replaced are in fact new. But ... and this is the important part - if there are problems - they can be corrected. You just want to position yourself to be in the best possible position to have them corrected to your satisfaction.
In all honesty - you already did exactly what I would have suggested - after you had a bit of time to digest what happened - you went out and looked to see if there were other similar cars out there. You didn't find much - so you decided that this car was worth sticking with. You say you plan to keep it for a long while - so the engine replacement that will show up on the "Car-Fax" and it's potential to turn away future buyers isn't all that important to you. OK !!! You did your research, you weighed the alternatives and you made an informed decision !!!
If you have kept up with the news on the C7's - it seems that Chevy failed to properly clear chips after one of the oil passage / oil filter machining operations, and several hundred C7 motors expired (including one that a National Car Mag was testing) as a result. Every one of those new C7 owners got essentially what you're getting here - a new engine (but in the C7 case - I'm sure that the factory authorized only the bare minimum of replacement parts be changed out). At least you had the opportunity to decide if you wanted to stay in the deal - the C7 owners got no choices at all !
I really hope everything works out at least as well as you are hoping for !!!
GOOD LUCK with her and ENJOY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
On the crate engine, everyone we have used has been flawless. You get a new engine in your car, just drive it and enjoy it.
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From: Whitby Ont.
Rjhctrapp, any updates on the replacement engine ? i am sure all is well.
i think you did the right thing by replacing engine rather than car. took you a long time to pick the car you wanted, the selling dealer stepped up on this one.
i think you did the right thing by replacing engine rather than car. took you a long time to pick the car you wanted, the selling dealer stepped up on this one.
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From: Austin Tx
They ordered the engine Monday 5/2 and the service manager said it will take 5-7 days to get the engine, and another 5-7 to replace it. I told him no hurry, take their time. Flat rate only gives him 24 hours to r&r. But I'd rather the tech take his time and not hurry just so he can be thorough.
So my understanding is they place the order for the engine, GM performance hand builds the engine, serializes to my vin, ships out. So I'll receive a signed LS3 by the builder just like the engine previous to it. What I'm surprised at is the 3/100k warranty. Pretty crazy.
So my understanding is they place the order for the engine, GM performance hand builds the engine, serializes to my vin, ships out. So I'll receive a signed LS3 by the builder just like the engine previous to it. What I'm surprised at is the 3/100k warranty. Pretty crazy.
Glad it all worked out for you.
Last edited by shadowman1; Jul 10, 2016 at 07:44 PM.
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Racer
Joined: Apr 2016
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From: Arlington Wa
Just remember, if your in need of a dodge or a Chevy, Dwayne Lanes Chevrolet and also has a Dodge dealership in south Everett.
Rairdons dodge in smokey point and Kirkland. Two of our most stand up great dealers here in WA state. Both will take care of you.
I'm am very grateful to both entities for putting my dream car back in my driveway.
Thank you to all of you in this forum for taking me in and making me feel at home and welcome. Doesn't matter if your C7,C6 or any C, corvette people are excellent company to have.
Last edited by Rjhctrapp; Jul 11, 2016 at 01:06 AM. Reason: Correction
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Racer
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From: Arlington Wa
"Flat rate only gives him 24 hours to r&r. But I'd rather the tech take his time and not hurry just so he can be thorough. " The tech loses money if he takes longer than book time to finish the job. Beating the clock while still maintaining quality is how a good tech makes a great living. It's not in his best interest to "take his time"
Glad it all worked out for you.
Glad it all worked out for you.
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From: Whitby Ont.
All is absolutely awesome. Thank you for checking in. I drive it as much as I can. It's like it never happened. Yesterday we went for a road trip to Renton. Good Chevrolet had an arsenal of corvettes and camaros. We went to look at the 2015 Z/28 they have. Such a beast. Any excuse to get our vette on the road.
Just remember, if your in need of a dodge or a Chevy, Dwayne Lanes Chevrolet and also has a Dodge dealership in south Everett.
Rairdons dodge in smokey point and Kirkland. Two of our most stand up great dealers here in WA state. Both will take care of you.
I'm am very grateful to both entities for putting my dream car back in my driveway.
Thank you to all of you in this forum for taking me in and making me feel at home and welcome. Doesn't matter if your C7,C6 or any C, corvette people are excellent company to have.
Just remember, if your in need of a dodge or a Chevy, Dwayne Lanes Chevrolet and also has a Dodge dealership in south Everett.
Rairdons dodge in smokey point and Kirkland. Two of our most stand up great dealers here in WA state. Both will take care of you.
I'm am very grateful to both entities for putting my dream car back in my driveway.
Thank you to all of you in this forum for taking me in and making me feel at home and welcome. Doesn't matter if your C7,C6 or any C, corvette people are excellent company to have.