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Old May 24, 2023 | 02:21 PM
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In my 07 C6, error P0420 and 430 showed up. The obd diagnosis shows that there's a problem with one downstream oxygen sensor (bad voltage). I've changed both downstream Ox sensors but the code showed up again. What can casue it now?
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In my 07 C6, error P0420 and 430 showed up. The obd diagnosis shows that there's a problem with one downstream oxygen sensor (bad voltage). I've changed both downstream Ox sensors but the code showed up again. What can casue it now?
Hi, a failed catalytic converter will cause that.
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Ok, it might be that thing but.... Can someone tell me how is it possible to get catalytic converter fail after 31k miles? To be honest, the car was "abandoned" for about 4 years from now. I mean, I buy it from a guy who wasn't using the car for such a long time. It was standing in a parking lot. But I can't imagine how can this happen to a car with so low milage.
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Ok, it might be that thing but.... Can someone tell me how is it possible to get catalytic converter fail after 31k miles? To be honest, the car was "abandoned" for about 4 years from now. I mean, I buy it from a guy who wasn't using the car for such a long time. It was standing in a parking lot. But I can't imagine how can this happen to a car with so low milage.
Some odd times you have to go in a scanner and manually clear the codes (at least in hp tuners). Try to disconnect your battery for 30 minutes and try again.
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Ok, it might be that thing but.... Can someone tell me how is it possible to get catalytic converter fail after 31k miles? To be honest, the car was "abandoned" for about 4 years from now. I mean, I buy it from a guy who wasn't using the car for such a long time. It was standing in a parking lot. But I can't imagine how can this happen to a car with so low milage.
If the car has been suffering from misfires for a time or say had a faulty O2 sensor (stuck low) that was “over fueling” the engine the cats will fail…mileage has no bearing….if those downstream O2’s oscillate between 200-800 millivolts like the front the cats have lost their ability to store oxygen…exhaust leaks between the front and rear O2 can set those two DTC’s !!!…coolant leak or excessive blowby can also damage the cats.
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In my 07 C6, error P0420 and 430 showed up. The obd diagnosis shows that there's a problem with one downstream oxygen sensor (bad voltage). I've changed both downstream Ox sensors but the code showed up again. What can casue it now?
What do you mean by “bad voltage” ???
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I mean - low voltage. But the weird thing is that the obd diagnostic shows that the new sensor also work in a low voltage.
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Originally Posted by primE90
I mean - low voltage. But the weird thing is that the obd diagnostic shows that the new sensor also work in a low voltage.
Ok, after the car is off for a few hours what millivoltage do your downstream O2 sensors show with the ignition on ??…they should show 450 millivolts which is their “bias voltage”…if they show 100 millivolts unplug the O2 sensor…if the reading now shows 450 millivolts on the scan tool the O2 sensor is bad…if it REMAINS at 100 millivolts you have a wiring issue…are your upstream sensors oscillating between 200-800 millivolts with the engine running at operating temperature??…the downstreams should be steady around 600-700 millivolts.

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Originally Posted by C5 Diag
Ok, after the car is off for a few hours what millivoltage do your downstream O2 sensors show with the ignition on ??…they should show 450 millivolts which is their “bias voltage”…if they show 100 millivolts unplug the O2 sensor…if the reading now shows 450 millivolts on the scan tool the O2 sensor is bad…if it REMAINS at 100 millivolts you have a wiring issue…are your upstream sensors oscillating between 200-800 millivolts with the engine running at operating temperature??…the downstreams should be steady around 600-700 millivolts.
I will come back with this information. I didn’t save those numbers.

I’m wondering if those new sensors need to be „reset” somehow?
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Originally Posted by primE90
I will come back with this information. I didn’t save those numbers.

I’m wondering if those new sensors need to be „reset” somehow?
There are no “resetting” of those sensors…they either work or they don’t !!
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Check your exhaust gaskets for leaks. Check all exhaust connections in the exhaust system, even downstream of the 02 sensors.

Check your exhaust manifold bolts for tightness. Re-torque them.

While it could be a bat cat, more commonly P0420 and P0430 are from exhaust leaks.
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I had the same code and clear it and it would return. I took the car to muffler shop, to check my catalytic converter they put it on lift and took there temperature to find my left was cool, and the right 400 degrees.

They didn't charge me cause they wanted my business and took it another shop, and it came with reading.

Might want to get it checked?
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Originally Posted by Spaceme1117
Check your exhaust gaskets for leaks. Check all exhaust connections in the exhaust system, even downstream of the 02 sensors.

Check your exhaust manifold bolts for tightness. Re-torque them.

While it could be a bat cat, more commonly P0420 and P0430 are from exhaust leaks.
I must say, that the whole problem (check engine with p0420/430 codes) occurs in the certain conditions - when the car hits optimal temperature and when there is traffic jam or just traffic lights stop. What is more, the basic diagnostic tool shows that the temperature on converter hits over 750 degrees celsius.
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