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Old 01-13-2004, 12:22 PM
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Has the Column lock returned on the 6-speeds and is it a more reliable mechanism?

Is the Parking brake redesigned, and will it be reliable?

Did they move the computer from below the battery?

Is the can-of marbles noise still there in the 6-speeds?

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Old 01-13-2004, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Did they Fix these things? (wwashing)

I am very curious about the column lock as well. I think that item had to be high up on GMs "to fix" list, as they even had the TSB on it.

Somebody mentioned the new parking brake has the lever arm in the slightly up position when it is disengaged. I hope that isn't true.

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Old 01-14-2004, 07:21 PM
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THe parking brakes on our '01 & '02 work fine. My previous 2K coupe was a little 'soft.'
Old 01-19-2004, 02:11 AM
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I hope so" but only time will tell! :yesnod: :yesnod: :smash: :cheers:


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Most likely we will have a new can of worms specific to the C6. I just wish GM would stick to one body style long enough to completely work out the bugs.
Old 02-06-2004, 12:50 PM
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Most likely we will have a new can of worms specific to the C6. I just wish GM would stick to one body style long enough to completely work out the bugs.
How about selling it without the bugs. 8 years is plenty long for one "body style" no matter how nice it is. Ford had 25 years to work out the bugs in the Fox based Mustang :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Most likely we will have a new can of worms specific to the C6. I just wish GM would stick to one body style long enough to completely work out the bugs.

How about selling it without the bugs. 8 years is plenty long for one "body style" no matter how nice it is. Ford had 25 years to work out the bugs in the Fox based Mustang :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, some of the bugs were just plain ridiculous. Cars have had Emergency brakes for decades (Why is the one on the C5 so sick - no excuse).

The same with the Column locks.

And, the plastic gears in the pop-up headlights (the fixed that in the C6, but the issue remains in the C5, even in the replacement part.)

These type of problems a very discouraging.
Old 02-09-2004, 01:09 PM
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Is the can-of marbles noise still there in the 6-speeds?
The noise has been reduced. To eliminate it completely would cost 2 tenths of a second in zero to 60 times. I'll live with a little noise. ;)
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The one thing I would change is where the wiper lever is. I hit that thing a lot when I am autocrossing, it is a pain in the a**.
Old 02-14-2004, 07:53 PM
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The noise has been reduced. To eliminate it completely would cost 2 tenths of a second in zero to 60 times. I'll live with a little noise. ;)
This is one of my least favorite C5 traits (this plus road noise). I was depressed to read your post that GM was not able to fix the marbles in C6! Can you cite your sources? Also, would love to understand the 0.2s slowdown concept.
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Well, bad news maybe, if the C5 recall is any sort of hint about the column lock, GM didn't fix it :cry Seems that GM didn't even state it was an issue in the recall notice and the fix, get this, is to shut the fuel off when the column is locked. So now, instead of just having your column lock you don't get any fuel(which doesn't matter since you aren't going anywhere) but I would think a "stand" up company would have acknowledged the problem and fixed it instead of ignoring it completely(it is a PCM recode). I think the C6 could be in trouble......

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I was depressed to read your post that GM was not able to fix the marbles in C6! Can you cite your sources?
GM won't fix it because GM can't fix it. The noise is integral to the transmission. F-bodies, Vipers, and other cars that use the same transmission also have the same noise. The only way to get rid of it is with heavy sound deadening materials, moving to an all-new transmission, or making the exhaust so loud that you can't hear the "marbles" over it. :lol:
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GM won't fix it because GM can't fix it. The noise is integral to the transmission.
Sounds like somebody was in there for the C6:

"Corvette engineers thoroughly revised the Tremec gear box and added proprietary technology not offered on other automakers’ high-performance transmissions."
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/...wertrain.shtml

Too bad more of that 'proprietary technology' couldn't have been used to eliminate the marbles-in-a-can! I don't mean to be offensive, and I suppose I should give the benefit of doubt until I hear it, but judging from the list of C6 features, they seemed to have tackled nearly every key shortcoming of the C5 (and then some!). Including reduced road noise. This one (marbles) must be a tough nut to crack, because it was so apparent on the C5 it must have been on the list during C6 development.

Sure would be interested in more technical details on this. Links anyone? Books?

As for "...GM can't fix it.", wonder if there are any GM powertrain engineers willing to comment?
Old 02-15-2004, 07:36 PM
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As for "...GM can't fix it.", wonder if there are any GM powertrain engineers willing to comment?
Perhaps I should have said "in a cost-effective manner." :lol:
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good point.

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