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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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What is the basis? If you actually floor it from a stop light you get voided? Or corner at .95 g? How can they void your warranty if you don't alter what they manufactured? Just driiving it shouldn't void the warranty.
Racing voids the warrantee not driving fast. If you floor your car at a stop light and something breaks that would not void the warrantee. Drag racing will, if they find out about it.
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Is this written somewhere? I can't fnd it in my 04's manual and it isn't on any decal in the car anywhere.
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wwashing
Racing voids the warrantee not driving fast. If you floor your car at a stop light and something breaks that would not void the warrantee. Drag racing will, if they find out about it.
Not sure I totally agree. If you are competitively racing your car for cash or prizes, perhaps, but I still doubt it. Heck the video that comes with the Z shows on-track driving However, making some runs to enjoy the car, no way will that void the warranty. Someone will chime in with the particulars of the regulation that covers warranties, but as long as you don't muck with the mechanics of the car, you are pretty much covered. Even then, it is pretty much up to your dealer. My car has a full set of racing harnesses and my drivers seat kept breaking. Not only was it covered, they replaced the seat and re-installed my harness bar.

If you are talking about whether your insurance will cover a wreck, racing is a no-no (but driving on a track without actually racing is very gray). Depends upon your policy.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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FYI:
Don't ever "race" your car: make sure you "enroll in a high-speed driving SCHOOL"... you get to go round-n-round for "defensive driving education purposes".

If you wreck your car at the "school", you are more than likely to be covered by your auto policy (once!)

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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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Your warranty booklet covers the subject under "What is Not Covered."
I'll copy below. Your entire warranty doesn't get voided, just - "Damage Due to... racing, or other competion...alteration..., " falls under What is Not Covered. The only way your entire warranty can be voided is if the Title gets branded as Salvaged, Scrapped, Junked, or Totaled. The states report those brandings to all manufacturers, and they all base voiding warranties on the brandings by the state.
So race to your hearts content. Just don't show up at a dealer with a 500 hp modded engine, burnout rubber plastering the wheel wells, time slips in the glove box, a blown rear end, and expect warranty to cover it.

What is Not Covered

Damage Due to Accident, Misuse,
or Alteration
Damage caused as the result of any of the following is
not covered:
• Collision, fire, theft, freezing, vandalism, riot,
explosion, or objects striking the vehicle
• Misuse of the vehicle such as driving over curbs,
overloading, racing, or other competition. Proper
vehicle use is discussed in the owner manual.
• Alteration or modification to the vehicle including
the body, chassis, or components after final
assembly by GM.
• Coverages do not apply if the odometer has been
disconnected, its reading has been altered, or
mileage cannot be determined.
Important: This warranty is void on vehicles currently
or previously titled as salvaged, scrapped, junked,
or totaled.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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Maybe these would have helped:

Originally Posted by Scissors
They upgraded the transmission, but apparently forgot about the differential.

heavy-duty differential

and

race torque-tube bushing

and

Output shaft

and

THIS
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Did your guys read in motor trend or car and driver(I can't remember) that Mitubishi was refusing to honor a warranty claim on an Evo with a blown engine because they found out he raced in an autocross event.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyVettes
What are they voiding based upon?
The fact you won't destroy the rearend in this manner with stock tires on the street. The tires will break loose long before parts break.

This is pretty clear cut. It's fully possible it could get warrantied, claim the car just stopped on the street, and maybe dodge the racetrack exclusion...but whoever rips that rearend apart later on is gonna see the extreme force it took to do that, and hopefully, that won't happen until long after the fact and it'll never get traced back to the owner.

I heard this was a tuner shop's car anyways, and chances are it will never see a dealer again. Swapping the rearend is probably not that big of deal to them.

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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Closer_2001
WTH!!: Please elaborate.
I've heard about this nonsense years ago. Total urban myth level nonsense. Like ANY auto manufacturer has the time and money to send "spies" out to drag strips or race tracks just to try and void someone's warranty when most of the cars at said events are already out of warranty anyway. Poppycock!!
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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It definitely was reported in multiple car mags that Mitsubishi was snooping around various track events (SCCA) in order to collect owner names and VIN information that they used to void warranties. Please don't quote me, but I believe it was Autoweek and/or Motortrend.

As far as breaking rear ends in completely stock vehicles....
I have personally destroyed multiple rear ends in completely stock
F-bodys and mustangs with stock rubber.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tormania
I've heard about this nonsense years ago. Total urban myth level nonsense. Like ANY auto manufacturer has the time and money to send "spies" out to drag strips or race tracks just to try and void someone's warranty when most of the cars at said events are already out of warranty anyway. Poppycock!!
Well, there have been several post on various F-body forums over the years about this happening and there where 2 CTS-V owners who posted they found out the hard way as well(blown rear assemblies as well). GM doesn't go to every track all the time, but frequents several of the better know tracks....It also appears that most of the info comes from service people for a local dealership and not a GM hired person.

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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gkull
last weekend (labor day) C-6 with what looked like E-T streets completely blew the rear end apart when the green light came on. Big chunks of metal on the strip at the starting line and it took 45 minutes to clean up all the oil and debris.

I just walked up from the staging lines when the flashing reds came on during the bracket races to see what the hold up was.

Is this just the first one?
maybe he pushed the nitrous button too soon
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Scissors
They upgraded the transmission, but apparently forgot about the differential.
Hmmmm. It looks like they will have to beef up the drivetrain for the new Z06. Maybe some of the components will be retrofitted into the stock C6. As I recall, the clutch was improved for the C5 Z06 and all of the MN6 cars got it.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tormania
I've heard about this nonsense years ago. Total urban myth level nonsense. Like ANY auto manufacturer has the time and money to send "spies" out to drag strips or race tracks just to try and void someone's warranty when most of the cars at said events are already out of warranty anyway. Poppycock!!
Mitsubishi was doing it not by attending the tracks, but by reading the auto-X results posted on some websites.
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