but i'm def right there with you. a V6 vette would be a stupid stupid thing.

 

Yup with 440 hp too

 

Only thing for sure is if there is a C7, it will have 4 wheels and a front-mounted motor and at least 2 doors, 2 seats and a steering wheel.

Waaaay too much has happened in the last 18 months to lock into anything otherwise. Including what quotes have been cited, or words said by Fritz, or Bob, or Tadge.

And that is both in a negative, or positive sense.

Look at what happened with the Z28? Alive (yea!), then killed (aww..), now back again with an S/C LSx engine (yea!).

Is anyone really going to be shocked if a Z28 is delayed out past MY 2011 or even shelved due to economic reasons?

Times are just too dynamic / unsettled right now.

I would hope we never see a V6 in a C7, but if GM feels that's what they would need to do to sell enough corvettes for the business model to work, so be it... as long as there is a 400+ hp V8 available as well.

 

Well if I remember correctly the 53,54, and 55 were all 6 cylinder engines with the 55 having the first 265ci v8.

Well if that doesn't show history I don't know what does.

 

The point is to move technology and performance FORWARD, not backwards and sacrifice performance to sell cars.

Next time I'm going to keep my opinion about this to myself lol

+1000000000000

 

Hey several V6s are proven out there...but i know what your saying.

I honestly wouldn't care if they downsized the motor and dropped off some hp if a lighter corvette came out that equaled overall performance. They will have trouble selling vettes if they are slower then previous generations. They will have trouble selling them with the way things are going period.

I like smaller nimble cars with lots of hp/torque. The C5Z works for me .

 

I agree, two that come to mind is the RB25 and the 2JZ-GTE.

Side note:
This guy around here has a Lotus Elise with a turbo and it makes like 300whp. Car is sick, it's like the size of a go-kart, short wheel base, 2800lbs.

 

The latest 5.3 was the Truck V8. LM7 was a 4.8 and 5.3L block. Only difference between the two were their rotating assemblies.

GM has a LOT of new technologies they can use. A 5.3L V8 would be perfectly OK if they use the right technology in the right way.

Firstly, they should be looking at some of the major accomplishments that other manufacturers had and try to integrate those technologies. Ford built a 2.3L engine that was made mostly out of plastic and made over 300HP. The entire motor weighed around 150Lbs wet! (Check it out here) This was in the 80s! Nissan builds a motor that doesn't require throttle bodies. The intake and throttle are managed by a system called "Variable Valve Event Lift" which is just a solenoid that adds/subtracts lift from the intake valves dynamically. Ferrari removed the use of cams all-together in their race cars by using actuators and switching to a 54V system. The only thing the engine powers besides the wheels is the alternator. Thus reducing power consumption, parasitic loss, and increasing the fuel economy.

Secondly, GM already has the technology for variable timing and variable displacement. They need to combine these technologies into one super efficient engine/electronics package:

5.3L V8
Variable Timing
Variable Displacement
Variable Lift/Duration
Plastic/Light-weight Block Components
Electronic Power Steering Assist (I still don't like steer by wire)
Electronic Water Pump
Carbon Fiber body parts
Carbon Fiber shafts and driveline parts
Carbon Fiber/Aluminum Alloy Frames

Etc....

They can do it, and it's going to cost a lot of money for development and tooling, but it's not to say it's impossible. This is something they should have been doing years ago to start with.

 

I could easily see that happening and further if the C7 does/will have a reduced CID and less power then I can see the Fbody following suit. I doubt GM is going to have a Camaro (any flavor) making more or similar power as their flagship car. I bet the Z28 will be dead (again) in 6-9 months.

 

I agree that its too early to assume that the C7 will be a very different ride, but for sure the Camaro will never be designed to run with a Vette. I saw a picture somewhere of a lot full of Camaros (Z28s) that were mothballed when GM was hat in hand back in the fall. Those cars will eventually will be sold, but I think they will be special edition models. And more likely because they will be well over $50K and I dont think GM can make the case for producing these models every year. At the very least until they are financially upright again.

 

Going to buy another C6 Z06

 

New Motor Trend mag states the C7 may have a split rear window and has a pic showing a concept. Nice thought

 

pics from motor trend:

 

Eesh, that rear quarter body line is ugly, a la that last Cougar FoMoCo made...

I'm not even sure if the chassis will truly be all new vs. tweaked/revised from the C6. That's basically what they did with the C5 and C6, same with the C2 and C3.

 

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Why are you guys so against a Turbo/SC'd V6? I'd sure as hell buy one.

There are multiple small displacement vehicles in other car's line ups that produce amazing performance. Look at the Cobalt SS. It went around "the Ring" in 8 minutes and some change. And that's a grocery getter. The little bastards go 12's with a tune!

Look at the performance of the LC2 in the Grand National or the 2JZ of the Supra. Even the POS R35's V6 is impressive.

An all aluminum, forged, twin scroll TC'd V6 in a lightweight Vette would be amazing.

 

Corvettes have always been about hi-po V8s. I think that to keep that tradition going , a V8 of some kind would have to be used. Like I said before, a smaller V8 (maybe Vortec) supercharged would be a safe bet.

 

In the name of saving the Corvette, I honestly don't see anything wrong with going with a TT V6. The first years of the Vette were 6 bangers.

If GM was smart they'd design a V8 like the RST-V8. It's a 2.4L V8 that makes 500HP and revs to 10K! The motor fully dressed weighs 90Kg.

 

Why go to a TT-6 if you get nothing from it. I am still looking for that high performance TT6 that meets the LS3, LS7 in terms of power, milage and emmissions. Also the driving dynamics of a turbo car are different than a naturally aspirated or supercharged car.

On the RST-V8 the torque is crap. the gear ratios would have to be monsterous. What would the mileage and emmissions be like? Peak HP is not everything. A low torque motor works in a very low weight car like an Elise. However, even the Elise doesn't get good milage with a 1.8 liter motor, even with a 2000 pound weight.

 

Looking at the sucess of the ZR1, twin-turbo anything is probably not gonna happen. once the ZR1 s production ceases, a supercharged top-end car (ala ZO6) would make more sense. Also supercharging seems to be the current and future power adder of choice. "RIGHT NOW" response vs. possible turbo lag.