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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gatti-man
So keep the bodywork relatively the same while evolving powertrain ad interior. That would be optimal to hold resale and keep them from going stale.
I don't think GM gives much thought to resale values, they want to sell us new cars. A styling change would inspire those who buy new cars to trade the C6. If the C7 looks too much like the C6, current owners may not feel the urge to trade. Since many newer Corvettes aren't DD, they have low miles and look new for many years allowing owners to keep them a long time. That doesn't help GM much.

Normally, the used car market takes car of itself. Only the real dogs have abnormal depreciation. GM would only worry about used car values if it starts to hurt new car sales. Resale values aren't one of the Corvette sales issues.

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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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6 more months and we will know all the answers. :-)
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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[QUOTE=oldgoat99;1580969065]I got to thinking. Of course that didn't last long, but here's my thought. The CTX-V styling seems to be a hit with most people and I'd guess the Vette may take on a little of the V's edgy design. That'll be my prediction for the C7. I guess we'll see.[/QUOTE]

I hope that's the case. The Caddy designers have done a great job in turning that brand around. I wouldn't mind a bit more edgy design language . . . But not at the expense of aerodynamics . . .
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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I don't see any reason to keep the c7 a secret for so long.
If they release it now some people won't like it so they would get a c6.
I don't think it will hurt c6 sales only help them .
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chaase
I am not advocating huge changes every 5-6 years. I am saying evolve them more often going forward. They need big change now because they have barely touched the car in over a decade. C5 to C6 would've been fine if that was after 5-6 years, but it is not fine after 8 years.
You're absolutely correct. The Corvette 'diehard' generation is going to stop buying Vettes pretty soon due to advanced age. Hope GM sees that, because the new generation won't put up 8-9 year cycles indeed.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ELP_JC
.... the new generation won't put up 8-9 year cycles indeed.


Who made you the oracle of future Corvette buyer's desires?
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ELP_JC
The Corvette 'diehard' generation is going to stop buying Vettes pretty soon due to advanced age.
Where does this idea come from? Go to any Corvette meetup of any size and you see lots of guys that aren't within a decade of using a walker. What makes you think every buyer under 60 has a wandering eye, or that GM can't make an 8-year-old Corvette a compelling purchase if they want to?

Is there any fact or data behind this thinking? Anything at all beyond individual impatience or infatuation with some new technology bauble?

Or are you really just putting down elder buyers, insinuating that they'll buy anything at all with a Corvette badge? Because it seems to me from the posts in this forum that some of the most exacting and informed buyers are well past fifty, and if someone else made a better sports car they'd be driving it.

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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by arkus
I don't see any reason to keep the c7 a secret for so long.
If they release it now some people won't like it so they would get a c6.
I don't think it will hurt c6 sales only help them .
your logic does not compute.

and the C7 is not a secret. come on people.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by m48xhp
your logic does not compute.

and the C7 is not a secret. come on people.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jinx
Or are you really just putting down elder buyers, insinuating that they'll buy anything at all with a Corvette badge? Because it seems to me from the posts in this forum that some of the most exacting and informed buyers are well past fifty, and if someone else made a better sports car they'd be driving it.

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It is a fact of life that for most people, their buying behaviors change as they grow older. Unless they are Carrol Shelby or some other rich collector, of course.

I just don't see it as a put-down. I see it as a fact of life that older people (whoever that is) move along and younger people take their places - with slightly different tastes.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by arkus
I don't see any reason to keep the c7 a secret for so long.
If they release it now some people won't like it so they would get a c6.
I don't think it will hurt c6 sales only help them .
To put things in perspective, take a look at General Motor's new cars the past couple of years. Take a look at the vast improvements they have made in the interior department alone. There is no reason to think that the C7 will not be an improvement. And if it is an improvement, and they show it now, C6 sales would tank. Chevrolet are in the business of building the workingman's sports car, but they are also in the business of making money.

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Where does this idea come from? Go to any Corvette meetup of any size and you see lots of guys that aren't within a decade of using a walker. What makes you think every buyer under 60 has a wandering eye, or that GM can't make an 8-year-old Corvette a compelling purchase if they want to?

Is there any fact or data behind this thinking? Anything at all beyond individual impatience or infatuation with some new technology bauble?

Or are you really just putting down elder buyers, insinuating that they'll buy anything at all with a Corvette badge? Because it seems to me from the posts in this forum that some of the most exacting and informed buyers are well past fifty, and if someone else made a better sports car they'd be driving it.

.Jinx
I completely agree with this. I have no idea where this "Corvette owners are long in the tooth" mentality stems from. If you attend a car show, any car show, and take a stroll through the Corvette section, you will find owners of varying ages, old and young. This is a fifty thousand dollar automobile we are talking about here. Not every hot shot 25-year-old out of college can afford one like they may be able to a Camaro or Mustang. It takes a little more time for many people to own one. But that doesn't mean that all of the owners are about to die, as so many people assume.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jinx
Where does this idea come from? Go to any Corvette meetup of any size and you see lots of guys that aren't within a decade of using a walker. What makes you think every buyer under 60 has a wandering eye, or that GM can't make an 8-year-old Corvette a compelling purchase if they want to?

Is there any fact or data behind this thinking? Anything at all beyond individual impatience or infatuation with some new technology bauble?

Or are you really just putting down elder buyers, insinuating that they'll buy anything at all with a Corvette badge? Because it seems to me from the posts in this forum that some of the most exacting and informed buyers are well past fifty, and if someone else made a better sports car they'd be driving it.

.Jinx
It irritates me when I hear the "Vettes are old guys cars!" BS. Albeit the average age is 56 for Corvette owners according to the interwebs, if older folks are the only ones who can appreciate the performance, styling and value of the Corvette shame on us.
Similar to what you stated most 20-30 something's aren't as financially stable as someone even in their 40s. Most, not all of us, are working on getting our life together, marriage, house/furniture shopping and making babies.

I do beleive strongly that the c6 set the stage for the rekindling of my gen's interest in the Vette, and that the c7 is going to knock it out of the park.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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I completely agree with this. I have no idea where this "Corvette owners are long in the tooth" mentality stems from. If you attend a car show, any car show, and take a stroll through the Corvette section, you will find owners of varying ages, old and young. This is a fifty thousand dollar automobile we are talking about here. Not every hot shot 25-year-old out of college can afford one like they may be able to a Camaro or Mustang. It takes a little more time for many people to own one. But that doesn't mean that all of the owners are about to die, as so many people assume.[/QUOTE]

Yes, and please don't forget that it's a$50K+ car with limited utility.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Some Corvette buyers are getting their first, others are satisfied repeat buyers who've owned many. Both Corvette customers are great to have. (Imagine if Corvette had few repeat buyers!) Since they've been building Corvettes for 60 years, logic tells you many of the repeat buyers will be in their golden years by now.

The average age of the new 911 buyer is 18 months less than a Corvette buyer. It's not that much. We may LOVE them, but truthfully both cars are impractical, expensive, two seat toys. Few ever earn a living like Tommy Milner driving Corvettes. The young family man with mouths to feed and bills to pay isn't likely to put either sports car on top of the things he needs to buy.

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