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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 12:07 AM
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Agreed, they need a big hp NA car. Heatsoak sucks in Phoenix with FI cars.
Heat soak should not be an issue if they put that intercooler under the vent on the hood. That is fed directly by the grill area on the front facia. Then again, it could be an issue in the Phoenix summer heat but the Gila monsters will love it!
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 12:51 AM
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For those wondering if the Z06 or ZR1 will return...
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by VETTEMANN
I'd guess the L88-LT4 at about 6.0L & super-charged, making about 600HP, and NO cylinder-deactivation. Very doubtful we'll ever see a 7.0L 427 again - the 'L88' likely will be used to represent performance but without the size of the 60s motors...

IMO, I'm saying I expect the next Z will be SC - no more big n-a power...
I'm thinking that model might be known as the ZR1 and that there might not even be a Z06 anymore, but I agree otherwise.
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 03:09 AM
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Love that avatar, Scratch. "One dog' goes one way, the other dog goes the other way and this guy's sayin' whaddaya want from me".
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
This could be cool !

I ran a L88 cam in my 69 Camaro Big Block....talk about a beast when you got into it's rpm range of 4000-7000. I've had alot of fast cars but nothing hit harder.
I had the L-82 which sucked!
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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I cannot ever imagine the designation L 88 used for anything other than a 427 motor. In my opinion it would make a good designation for a new 427 motor for the ZO6 that would be naturally aspirated and would get rid of the LS7 designation that is associated with blown motors.

Interesting history about the L 88 motor is the first version that came out in 66 had a rather mild camshaft in comparison to the second-generation L 88 motor with open chamber heads paired with a much more radical camshaft that had mega duration.

As pump gasoline was seriously degraded in the early 70s, one of the common solutions that worked very well for owners of early L88 motors with 12.5 compression & closed chamber heads was to leave the high dome 12.5 pistons in place but add the much more efficient (added 30 hp) open chamber heads that brought the static compression down to a pump gas friendly 10.5 for a win-win situation.

The second-generation radical camshaft and open chamber heads were used in the ZL1 motor

I would really like to see a new ZO6 with a L88 designated 427 motor. After having several "old" BB motors a new one would be nice.
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 09:20 AM
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Do you guys know the history behind the L88?
I bet you dont know about the ls7 without looking it up? The 1970 Ls7
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Shurshot
I cannot ever imagine the designation L 88 used for anything other than a 427 motor. In my opinion it would make a good designation for a new 427 motor for the ZO6 that would be naturally aspirated and would get rid of the LS7 designation that is associated with blown motors.

Interesting history about the L 88 motor is the first version that came out in 66 had a rather mild camshaft in comparison to the second-generation L 88 motor with open chamber heads paired with a much more radical camshaft that had mega duration.

As pump gasoline was seriously degraded in the early 70s, one of the common solutions that worked very well for owners of early L88 motors with 12.5 compression & closed chamber heads was to leave the high dome 12.5 pistons in place but add the much more efficient (added 30 hp) open chamber heads that brought the static compression down to a pump gas friendly 10.5 for a win-win situation.

The second-generation radical camshaft and open chamber heads were used in the ZL1 motor

I would really like to see a new ZO6 with a L88 designated 427 motor. After having several "old" BB motors a new one would be nice.
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by arkus
Do you guys know the history behind the L88?
I bet you dont know about the ls7 without looking it up? The 1970 Ls7
I tried to get a open chamber alum head LS7 454 cu.in. 465HP in a black chevelle in 1970 shortly after the motor was announced. The dealership and salesman who was old friend tried real hard but GM denied the order.
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Originally Posted by Shurshot
I tried to get a open chamber alum head LS7 454 cu.in. 465HP in a black chevelle in 1970 shortly after the motor was announced. The dealership and salesman who was old friend tried real hard but GM denied the order.
right .
this would have been the 454 version of the l88 but gm axed it .
Zora Arkus Duntov wanted it however .
Ls7 was often called the engine that never was .
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by arkus
right .
this would have been the 454 version of the l88 but gm axed it .
Zora Arkus Duntov wanted it however .
Ls7 was often called the engine that never was .
Would have been nice and would have become a legend. As I understood it back then, for vettes and camaro/ chevelle the idea of a COPO option was considered, but because of the times high HP cars were already under a death sentence.

Hard to duplicate the power of a real BB within the limitations of todays SB. It is nothing to make 500 cu in out of an old factory 4 bolt main block making 650 and north NA HP.

LSX does pretty good IMO but nothing compared to the easy 800 plus NA HP available from aftermarket 540-572 inch motors. Last 540 I had put 700# torque down by 3200 and is claimed (by current owner) to be the fastest C2 in Europe.

Not so sure about that myself, bragging is easy but IMO pretty hard to have the "fastest" anything these days
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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I believe history has repeated itself and we are in the second muscle car era .

Did we peak with the c6 ?

Or is there still more performance to come ?

Will c7 beat 638 hp ?
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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GM should have called the LS7 an L88, since it was a 427 and the original LS7 was a 454.
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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Am I the only one who thinks owners of earlier L88-engined Vettes might be a little pissed with this renaming stuff?
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by arkus
I believe history has repeated itself and we are in the second muscle car era .

Did we peak with the c6 ?

Or is there still more performance to come ?

Will c7 beat 638 hp ?
a. this has been a new golden era
b. no
c. of course
d. yes
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Hopefully GM will keep true to tradition and the L88 will be a real beast right from the factory.
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Am I the only one who thinks owners of earlier L88-engined Vettes might be a little pissed with this renaming stuff?
All 20 of them? lol
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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The original L88 could only be driven with leaded fuel and produced over 500hp... in the 60s! Man I would love to see a modern ALL BUSINESS race engine like this. Very doubtly it would be that serious though as it would be used for regular production street cars.

-Alex
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Am I the only one who thinks owners of earlier L88-engined Vettes might be a little pissed with this renaming stuff?
Oh yeah! L88 is in a whole other League....very very special.
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
The original L88 could only be driven with leaded fuel and produced over 500hp... in the 60s! Man I would love to see a modern ALL BUSINESS race engine like this. Very doubtly it would be that serious though as it would be used for regular production street cars.

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More like 550 - 600. Way underated.
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