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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
3298 lbs for the base, damn near 3400 for the Z51!
So the C7 that passes you will weigh more. I guess that will be the excuse you tell yourself.
Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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Keep telling yourself this! I know you are pissed about the weight but blame GM, not me!

Guess they got the car half right ....50% right! ( the front half )
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Sounds like the hidious rear is to blame for the weight?
Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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If any of you guys train or haver personal trainers.....consider this as you pack on muscle ...as you get stronger ...you may gain a few pounds yet it's the right kind of weight....


Think of the c7 as adding muscle not fat..

Read the description of where the weight increase is landing and you ll agree.....it's the good kind of increase...

All muscle no fat.
Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JerriVette
If any of you guys train or haver personal trainers.....consider this as you pack on muscle ...as you get stronger ...you may gain a few pounds yet it's the right kind of weight....


Think of the c7 as adding muscle not fat..

Read the description of where the weight increase is landing and you ll agree.....it's the good kind of increase...

All muscle no fat.
Nice spin.
Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
The Heavier C7 makes the Lighter C6 Obsolete. Too Funny!
With that logic, cars from 40 years ago would make cars of today obsolete.
Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Nice spin.


For a car: Muscle is horsepower and torque. Weight is weight.

Your analogy to a human body doesn't translate.








I have modded many cars and often had to add weight when adding stronger drive drain components, sub frame connectors, roll cages, etc. but I'm still agreeing with sam90lx: Weak spin job on that one.
Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by gthal
With that logic, cars from 40 years ago would make cars of today obsolete.
Technology is different now...or at least one would think!
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Technology is different now...or at least one would think!
Exactly... that was my point.
Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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Take a look at the items are heavier and you will better understand the analogy...it's not spin ..I dig my c6... I enjoyed my 485 hp cam headers gears c5 z06..

This is my perspective of the new c7..

I'm not running out to buy one yet I can admire and acknowledge the advances...

Take a look at where the weight is besides the 3160 dry weight


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Gthal.....lighter = better! Super simple!
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That's the weight my analogy to muscle would call good weight and not flab




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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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Jerrivette, can you imagine the performance if the C7 Z51 came in at 3100-3200 lbs?
Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Gthal.....lighter = better! Super simple!
Agreed if that were the only measurement criteria

Unfortunately, there are hundreds of things that influence ultimate performance but let's not worry about that . It makes it easier to dump on the C7 if we ignore everything else and focus on the 3,298 weight . Not that it matters but, IMO, it is still very respectable for a modern car with all of the modern features one would expect.
Old Apr 27, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Jerrivette, can you imagine the performance if the C7 Z51 came in at 3100-3200 lbs?
It would be fantastic for sure but then you would need to think about what features would be excluded from the car (something for some to then complain about) or the cost would be too high given the production costs (something for many to complain about).

Seems to me life is one big compromise... hopefully the C7 is a well thought out and balanced compromise... looks to me like it is Yes, it is too bad they couldn't have had the car weigh 3,150lbs, have all of the features and options folks expect and want, and have it cost $65,000 well equiped... yeah, that wouldn't happen.
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Jerrivette, can you imagine the performance if the C7 Z51 came in at 3100-3200 lbs?
3160 dry weights impressive....

That's my opinion..the end result will be track and street performance

If we look at where the weight is ....it's choices that we each can determine for ourselves.....was this a smart design move?

My opinion would be these have been smart choices..

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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Gthal.....lighter = better! Super simple!
If that were true the L88 C2 would still be the performance king at it's 3100 and change curb weight.

In reality an 84 C4 will take a L88 C2 out back and beat it so hard around a road course that the C2 owner will go "Oh yeah well, well mine's a classic!" as a defense.

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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
So the C7 that passes me will weigh more. I guess that will be the excuse I tell myself.
fixed it for you.
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L88 is King in my book!
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Originally Posted by Aaron Keating
If that were true the L88 C2 would still be the performance king at it's 3100 and change curb weight.
He's just desperate to find something to pick at and win arguments.

I'm not disputing the importance of weight either... it is important... but it is but one thing to consider and the C7 weight is completely reasonable in its performance category. The key will be how well GM put together the car as a whole to extract ultimate performance.



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