Fairly Reliable Minimum HP
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Now, as far as the vettes, I have a street DD LT4 with 140K miles that is going strong. The A/C finally lost freon after all these years. Other than that I have only replaced a water pump, opti and A/C vacuum manifold (easy to do myself). The Z06 that I track has been beat to hades and back and keeps on ticking! I could not ask for better service from either one. The secret is to let everything come up to operating temperature before romping on the throttle and brakes.
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You really need to count your blessings with the good service out of your AMG. There is a reason that Merz doesn't hold good value in the used car market. Family has owned over a dozen Merz's through the years; 420's, 430's and presently S550 and an old '81 380SL. We have had jumped timing chains, electrically adjustable shocks, MAF's, vacuum lines, computers and seats replaced. Now, the S550 with only 18K miles on it is experiencing no return to position with driver's seat, mirrors that won't open from tucked postition, engine failure to start at times and intermittent bluetooth connection.
Now, as far as the vettes, I have a street DD LT4 with 140K miles that is going strong. The A/C finally lost freon after all these years. Other than that I have only replaced a water pump, opti and A/C vacuum manifold (easy to do myself). The Z06 that I track has been beat to hades and back and keeps on ticking! I could not ask for better service from either one. The secret is to let everything come up to operating temperature before romping on the throttle and brakes.
Now, as far as the vettes, I have a street DD LT4 with 140K miles that is going strong. The A/C finally lost freon after all these years. Other than that I have only replaced a water pump, opti and A/C vacuum manifold (easy to do myself). The Z06 that I track has been beat to hades and back and keeps on ticking! I could not ask for better service from either one. The secret is to let everything come up to operating temperature before romping on the throttle and brakes.
I dont have the same concerns about GM & Ford vehicles.. or even Japanese brands for that matter.
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I don't know why people act like cylinder deactivation is incompatible with performance, it's not. All of the new Audi/Bentley twin-turbo V8s, the SRT 6.4, as well as the Lamborghini Aventador use it.
If you don't want to use it, turn it off.
Drifting
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Oh yeah, I've been there, seen it. There's a lot more unofficial "tracks" all over, a big one in farmingdale. I just can't afford to get into trouble.
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I know this is probably not accurate, but check out this video of the C7 in Gran Turismo 5. Before the race starts, it states the horsepower of the C7 is 466. I wonder.... Do they know something we don't know? hmm...
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They could do more than 450hp, pretty easy thesedays. But chevy likes to have a long protracted update schedule. So in 2 or 3 years they will tweak it for an extra 30 hp and charge and extra $3000.
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I was driving down Main street and looked above the door of a business and it said 493. The heavens opened up and the Angles were singing. I knew instantly that they were referring to the horsepower of the C7.
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Am I Johnny-come-lately?
500 should be the absolute bare minimum hp. This way, after carbon buildup kicks in and no ethanol selling stations can be found, the car still should be good for about 400 ponies? And if the car gets stuck in permanent 4 cylinder mode, it still should be movable
500 should be the absolute bare minimum hp. This way, after carbon buildup kicks in and no ethanol selling stations can be found, the car still should be good for about 400 ponies? And if the car gets stuck in permanent 4 cylinder mode, it still should be movable
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I know this is probably not accurate, but check out this video of the C7 in Gran Turismo 5. Before the race starts, it states the horsepower of the C7 is 466. I wonder.... Do they know something we don't know? hmm...
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First thing I do when I buy the car!
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From: Springfield MO
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For those who believe that GM has to pull a bunch of production engines off the assembly line in Bowling Green in order to get them SAE certified, let it be known that the 420 HP V6 TT engine that will be in the CTS has been SAE certified(and the 2014 CTS is not in production yet).
Do you still believe that GM is guessing about the LT1's horsepower because they have never had a LT1 on the dyno and that's why they aren't telling us what the SAE certified horsepower is?
Do you still believe that GM is guessing about the LT1's horsepower because they have never had a LT1 on the dyno and that's why they aren't telling us what the SAE certified horsepower is?
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For those who believe that GM has to pull a bunch of production engines off the assembly line in Bowling Green in order to get them SAE certified, let it be known that the 420 HP V6 TT engine that will be in the CTS has been SAE certified(and the 2104 CTS is not in production yet).
Do you still believe that GM is guessing about the LT1's horsepower because they have never had a LT1 on the dyno and that's why they aren't telling us what the SAE certified horsepower is?
Do you still believe that GM is guessing about the LT1's horsepower because they have never had a LT1 on the dyno and that's why they aren't telling us what the SAE certified horsepower is?
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Do you still believe that GM is guessing about the LT1's horsepower because they have never had a LT1 on the dyno and that's why they aren't telling us what the SAE certified horsepower is?[/QUOTE]
No .....GM has everyone wagging about the horsepower thus the car. These marketing people are darn smart. Something has to fill the forum C7 pages. IMHO
No .....GM has everyone wagging about the horsepower thus the car. These marketing people are darn smart. Something has to fill the forum C7 pages. IMHO
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I can see them tweaking HP before the info is released but there is no way they are making any meaningful changes to the weight of the car at this stage in the game. I don't see your simple explanation as the most simple option but that's just me. We'll just have to wait and see!
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Sure would be nice if the Chevrolet division's chief engineer was that smart.
Funny how Chevrolet's marketing department doesn't believe that the Corvette fans want to know that information yet the Cadillac divisions' marketing department believes the CTS's fans do.
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I love how you determine what the "simplest explanation" actually is. I'm not saying you are necessarily wrong... BUT... what about the other "simple explanation" that they want to sell off as many C6s as possible first without more discounting than absolutely needed? What about the "simple explanation" that they have a marketing plan that calls for information releases on their schedule and not ours?
I can see them tweaking HP before the info is released but there is no way they are making any meaningful changes to the weight of the car at this stage in the game. I don't see your simple explanation as the most simple option but that's just me. We'll just have to wait and see!
I can see them tweaking HP before the info is released but there is no way they are making any meaningful changes to the weight of the car at this stage in the game. I don't see your simple explanation as the most simple option but that's just me. We'll just have to wait and see!
If I wanted a more complex explanation, I would say the torque tube may be getting heavier and weight keeps going up?
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Not only has GM had the 420 HP V6TT SAE certified and has released that number they have also found a pair of kitchen scales and weighed the damn 2104 CTS. They also found someone at Cadillac that knows how to use a calculator to figure how what the weight distribution is on the 2014 CTS. It's 3616 pounds with 50.3% on the front wheels and 49.7% on the rear wheels.
Sure would be nice if the Chevrolet division's chief engineer was that smart.
Funny how Chevrolet's marketing department doesn't believe that the Corvette fans want to know that information yet the Cadillac divisions' marketing department believes the CTS's fans do.
Sure would be nice if the Chevrolet division's chief engineer was that smart.
Funny how Chevrolet's marketing department doesn't believe that the Corvette fans want to know that information yet the Cadillac divisions' marketing department believes the CTS's fans do.
