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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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I love the 100% guarantee! You guys never cease to amaze me!
Oh, yeah, I forgot GM is lying about............well, everything...
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Oh, yeah, I forgot GM is lying about............well, everything...
GM is not lying, GM clearly stated 450. You and others apparently feel it is inadequate and call anyone who points your bogus claims as unsubstantiated, a liar.

Technically you and other humpers are the actual liars claiming the motor will have more power and even issue guarantees on it, look in the mirror to see a liar.

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Apparently I'm going to have to spell it out for the reading challenged, there is an available (that means optional for the reading challenged) "Variable Tuned Performance exhaust" listed in the last window of the brochure "AVAILIBLE EQUIPMENT", about 80% of the way down. I'm sure JoeC5 will correct me and say it is in fact 81% down thus I'm completely wrong about everything.

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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Anyone who can read and comprehend the sale brochure knows the top number will be over 450HP

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...-brochure.html
Under fast facts that brochure says.....
"Corvette Stingray will be the most fuel-efficient car on the market to offer 450 horsepower......"


That's pretty easy to read and comprehend. Too bad you can't....

And you were bloviating about....what?
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Under fast facts that brochure says.....
"Corvette Stingray will be the most fuel-efficient car on the market to offer 450 horsepower......"


That's pretty easy to read and comprehend. Too bad you can't....

And you were bloviating about....what?
Unfortunately you failed to read the entire brochure see post #123

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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Apparently I'm going to have to spell it out for the reading challenged, there is an available (that means optional for the reading challenged) "Variable Tuned Performance exhaust" listed in the last window of the brochure "AVAILIBLE EQUIPMENT" about 80% of the way down. I'm sure JoeC5 will correct me and say it is in fact 81% down thus I'm completely wrong about everything.
I think if you want to spell out anything for others, make sure you spell it correctly, unless GM spellers went on strike.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Oh, yeah, I forgot GM is lying about............well, everything...
No, he said the tires would be skinny and I believe him!
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Unfortunately you failed to read the entire brochure see post #123
Oh WOW, an available exhaust is going to move the horsepower up to 480-490-even maybe 500? The LS3 had 430 HP and with the NPP it was 436. Gained a whole 6 horsepower.

Tell me ole fortune teller , what does your crystal ball say the NPP will take the 450 HP LT1 to? Or do you read tea leaves?
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Oh WOW, an available exhaust is going to move the horsepower up to 480-490-even maybe 500? The LS3 had 430 HP and with the NPP it was 436. Gained a whole 6 horsepower.

Tell me ole fortune teller , what does your crystal ball say the NPP will take the 450 HP LT1 to? Or do you read tea leaves?
Above 450.........
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Above 450.........
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If ethanol does not work, go with Jack Daniels for extra kick
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Really ????
Originally Posted by petermj
GM is not lying, GM clearly stated 450. You and others apparently feel it is inadequate and call anyone who points your bogus claims as unsubstantiated, a liar.

Technically you and other humpers are the actual liars claiming the motor will have more power and even issue guarantees on it, look in the mirror to see a liar.
Wow, brogurt, you need to step away from the computer for a while. This discussion is taking it's toll on you. There's no need to catch feelings and start calling people names.

Anyways, I finished having this argument quite a while ago. This thread is tagged, though. Before long, someone will be coming back to gloat, and someone will have mysteriously disappeared from this board.

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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RocketGuy3
Wow, brogurt, you need to step away from the computer for a while. It sounds like this argument is beginning to take it's toll on you. There's no need to catch feelings here and start calling people names.

Anyways, I finished having this argument quite a while ago. This thread is tagged, though. Before long, someone will be coming back to gloat, and someone will have mysteriously disappeared from this board.
We will wait and see how this plays out
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Man I hope it puts down 480 hp, im getting the itch for something new!
But if it only puts out 450-460....you can damn well bet im gonna let the **** start flying, then we will see who stays around this forum!
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Man I hope it puts down 480 hp, im getting the itch for something new!
But if it only puts out 450-460....you can damn well bet im gonna let the **** start flying, then we will see who stays around this forum!
Anything over 450 is still over 450.I guarantee you I will be here no matter what starts flying. The real test of the LT1 engine will be on the 1/4 mile. 480 hp would be very good, but that's a little optimistic even for me..........
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Anything over 450 is still over 450.I guarantee you I will be here no matter what starts flying. The real test of the LT1 engine will be on the 1/4 mile. 480 hp would be very good, but that's a little optimistic even for me..........
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To be fair, if I'm going to be level headed, I guess I should change my "guarantee" to about 99.3%.

Given everything we know, I'm about as sure as I can be, but I suppose you can never be COMPLETELY sure of anything in this world other than your own existence... So I'd bet just about everything under the sun on it except maybe my life.

EDIT: And as long as we're spitting out numbers, my money is on 470+. I would consider myself epically, mind-blowingly wrong if it was anything under 460, even without NPP.

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Originally Posted by RocketGuy3
To be fair, if I'm going to be level headed, I guess I should change my "guarantee" to about 99.3%.

Given everything we know, I'm about as sure as I can be, but I suppose you can never be COMPLETELY sure of anything in this world other than your own existence... So I'd bet just about everything under the sun on it except maybe my life.

EDIT: And as long as we're spitting out numbers, my money is on 470+. I would consider myself epically, mind-blowingly wrong if it was anything under 460, even without NPP.
Anyone who thinks GM is going to pass up selling a $1,200 (or whatever it's going to cost) exhaust to C7 customers that adds 6 or whatever hp, doesn't understand the car business. I think your guarantee is safe.

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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Anyone who thinks GM is going to pass up selling a $1,200 (or whatever it's going to cost) exhaust to C7 customers that adds 6 or whatever hp, doesn't understand the car business. I think your guarantee is safe.
I think you all should guarantee that whatever it will be, it will be beyond a tune on LS3. Anyone cares to guarantee this one?
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^^^
Well that is not of much interest to me. Factory power >>> modded power AFAIC.


Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Anyone who thinks GM is going to pass up selling a $1,200 (or whatever it's going to cost) exhaust to C7 customers that adds 6 or whatever hp, doesn't understand the car business. I think your guarantee is safe.
Well I'm mostly talking about the baseline power figures.
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Lmao! I'd love to go to a road course. Can you recommend any that are nearby? And by nearby, I mean a 2-3 hour drive. About how much does it cost to go on a road course? Do you HAVE to have an instructor in the car, and can you bring a friend in the car with you if you want?
Motorsportsreg.com is a good place to start. Many clubs list their events there. I checked yesterday and saw something for New Jersey Motorsports Park. It looked to be down on the opposite end of the state form Long Island, so might be more than three hours. I'm in CA and not too familar with what other tracks are around the NY, NJ, CT area. But that one in NJ showed up right away so I figure there are more.

Every group is different in how they handle beginners, but pretty much all will require an instructor to ride along, will do various drills to learn the line, the flags, where the flagstations are, how to give a point by, where the passing zones are, etc.

I definitely think a track day is something that a sports car owner should try at least once. It often takes many events before feeling comfortable, but going just once might be enough to decide if you ever want to go again.

Prices around my area range from $150 @ Thunderhill in a more crowded club (maybe 5, 20-minute sessions throughought the day) to $250 for less crowded day at Laguna Seca (maybe 4, 30-minute sessions with an open track at the end of the day).

Anyhow, definitely worth looking into, but will be very expensive if you end up liking it.

As far as the thread topic, I'm still thinking the HP will be around 470.

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