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#41
Team Owner
Okay what do you say we all give this a try!
THIS THREAD IS TO DISCUSS ALL OF OUR LIKES AND DISLIKES REGARDING THE C7!!
IF YOU CANNOT RESPOND W/OUT BEING SLANDEROUS/SARCASTIC/NASTY/BELLIGERENT OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS UNHELPFUL THEN PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM THIS THREAD! NO ONE IS BEING FORCED TO RESPOND, THIS THREAD IS DESIGNED TO DISCUSS AND COMPARE OPINIONS OF WHAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT AND SENSITIVE SUBJECT TO SOME!
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN'T ABIDE BY THE VERY SIMPLE REQUESTS I'VE IMPLEMENTED WILL SIMPLY BE LABELED A USELESS MEMBER OF THIS FORUM WITH THE HOPE THAT ANYONE AND EVERYONE WILL IGNORE YOU GOING FORWARD!
I will start it off with my favorite and least favorite aspect of the car!
The thing I like most about the car (of course w/out having sat in or driven it) would have to be the front end. The overall appearance of the nose is very unique IMO, it is a combination of having it's own identity, function and style. If there is any one thing I dislike about the nose is the "teeth" protruding from the lower bumper, I would have liked it to flow in this area but not a deal breaker.
The thing I like least about the car as I've mentioned before is that the car has just become too sharp and angular in too many places. I am not saying that it should have the same lines as the C6 but IMO they kind of went overkill with all of the angels and creases, I would have liked the overall body more if it was "toned" down somewhat!
Anyone is welcome to DISCUSS or DEBATE my comments or add your own, over time hopefully all of our likes and dislikes can be expressed and discussed in an amicable fashion! BD
THIS THREAD IS TO DISCUSS ALL OF OUR LIKES AND DISLIKES REGARDING THE C7!!
IF YOU CANNOT RESPOND W/OUT BEING SLANDEROUS/SARCASTIC/NASTY/BELLIGERENT OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS UNHELPFUL THEN PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM THIS THREAD! NO ONE IS BEING FORCED TO RESPOND, THIS THREAD IS DESIGNED TO DISCUSS AND COMPARE OPINIONS OF WHAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT AND SENSITIVE SUBJECT TO SOME!
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN'T ABIDE BY THE VERY SIMPLE REQUESTS I'VE IMPLEMENTED WILL SIMPLY BE LABELED A USELESS MEMBER OF THIS FORUM WITH THE HOPE THAT ANYONE AND EVERYONE WILL IGNORE YOU GOING FORWARD!
I will start it off with my favorite and least favorite aspect of the car!
The thing I like most about the car (of course w/out having sat in or driven it) would have to be the front end. The overall appearance of the nose is very unique IMO, it is a combination of having it's own identity, function and style. If there is any one thing I dislike about the nose is the "teeth" protruding from the lower bumper, I would have liked it to flow in this area but not a deal breaker.
The thing I like least about the car as I've mentioned before is that the car has just become too sharp and angular in too many places. I am not saying that it should have the same lines as the C6 but IMO they kind of went overkill with all of the angels and creases, I would have liked the overall body more if it was "toned" down somewhat!
Anyone is welcome to DISCUSS or DEBATE my comments or add your own, over time hopefully all of our likes and dislikes can be expressed and discussed in an amicable fashion! BD
#42
From what I have seen...
Likes:
-It isn't anything like a Pontiac C5.
-Awesome overall presentation.
-Unique but still very obviously a Corvette.
-Instant woody over the front end hood/fender/headlight lense shapes.
-Love the rear end and especially the tail lights.
-Dash looks fantastic and seats are finally offering serious-looking support.
-Diggin that remote-controlled vert top.
-Exhaust sounds great and can't wait to hear it in person.
Dislikes:
-Cupholder lid looks problematic.
-No anti-roll protection on convertible.
-No rear fender vents on convertible.
-Needs body-color option for vents and diffuser.
-Yet another targa top to go wrong that I'll never use.
-Very limited colors available.
The coupe knocks me out. For the first time I am really thinking about a coupe vs a vert tho I wish I could just get one with a solid top/no targa. Also thinking for the first time about a Torch Red Corvette.
So much yet we don't know and haven't even heard much about. Much more to be excited about. I can't wait to drive one.
Likes:
-It isn't anything like a Pontiac C5.
-Awesome overall presentation.
-Unique but still very obviously a Corvette.
-Instant woody over the front end hood/fender/headlight lense shapes.
-Love the rear end and especially the tail lights.
-Dash looks fantastic and seats are finally offering serious-looking support.
-Diggin that remote-controlled vert top.
-Exhaust sounds great and can't wait to hear it in person.
Dislikes:
-Cupholder lid looks problematic.
-No anti-roll protection on convertible.
-No rear fender vents on convertible.
-Needs body-color option for vents and diffuser.
-Yet another targa top to go wrong that I'll never use.
-Very limited colors available.
The coupe knocks me out. For the first time I am really thinking about a coupe vs a vert tho I wish I could just get one with a solid top/no targa. Also thinking for the first time about a Torch Red Corvette.
So much yet we don't know and haven't even heard much about. Much more to be excited about. I can't wait to drive one.
#44
Race Director
@ RC, let's not get off topic please.
@ everyone, someone named "racer" who has been on my ignore list for a long time has commented here. I'm sure whatever he said is detrimental to this thread so feel free to unload with any and all salvos his way should it be warranted.
@ everyone, someone named "racer" who has been on my ignore list for a long time has commented here. I'm sure whatever he said is detrimental to this thread so feel free to unload with any and all salvos his way should it be warranted.
#45
Race Director
Likes
-Looks amazing from the front end
-Aluminum frame
-Amount of torque (down low) in the base model
Dislikes
-Rear end, especially the tail lights
-top panel looks akward partially painted
Hopes
-with the AL frame the overall weight does ultimately see a reduction
-the tires do grip better than the widebody C6s
-Looks amazing from the front end
-Aluminum frame
-Amount of torque (down low) in the base model
Dislikes
-Rear end, especially the tail lights
-top panel looks akward partially painted
Hopes
-with the AL frame the overall weight does ultimately see a reduction
-the tires do grip better than the widebody C6s
#46
Safety Car
Thread Starter
@TT, cut and paste it then, believe me he is so much better to ignore!
@ tail lights, agreed on the front (except for the fangs), 3/4 and rear are tough though.
Thanks for your comments/input.
@ tail lights, agreed on the front (except for the fangs), 3/4 and rear are tough though.
Thanks for your comments/input.
#47
I pretty much like every thing about the car except the rear should be all body color to just above the exhaust pipes and body color up along the roof to the A pillar that's one of the things I don't like about my ZR1 that the CF roof is all dark almost black.
#48
@ RC, let's not get off topic please.
@ everyone, someone named "racer" who has been on my ignore list for a long time has commented here. I'm sure whatever he said is detrimental to this thread so feel free to unload with any and all salvos his way should it be warranted.
@ everyone, someone named "racer" who has been on my ignore list for a long time has commented here. I'm sure whatever he said is detrimental to this thread so feel free to unload with any and all salvos his way should it be warranted.
Are you suggesting open harassment of someone here on CF?
Last edited by BlueOx; 04-22-2013 at 05:48 PM.
#50
Safety Car
Thread Starter
OX don't wreck the damn thread! BTW, was his post at all useful or helpful? My money is on NO, I've been done with him a long time and it will stay that way, why he gets involved in my threads I don't know! Back to topic please!
@ SVT,do you think black wheels would help?
@ SVT,do you think black wheels would help?
#52
Le Mans Master
I saw the C7 in person and wrote a more detailed likes and dislikes here:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...ng-for-me.html
Short version
Likes:
- Front end
- New Hatch and quarter window treatment - A long time coming wish they had done this on the C6
- Sides are nice
- Interior
Dislikes
- Rear end is IMO horrible - just a clunky, busy, over-designed by committee mess that has not grown on me and in fact I like it less and less every day.
- Camaro-esque tail lights
- Too many badges on rear pick flags or letters not both GM
- Side cove vents are too tall
- Hate all the Carbon flash paint - it should be body colored or black.
- Not super thrilled by the new Steering wheel
Hopefully your thread will not turn into a train wreck like mine did.
ALthough I love the front end and many other aspects of it the rear end will be a deal breaker hopefully the C7 Z06/ZR1 will clean up the design.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...ng-for-me.html
Short version
Likes:
- Front end
- New Hatch and quarter window treatment - A long time coming wish they had done this on the C6
- Sides are nice
- Interior
Dislikes
- Rear end is IMO horrible - just a clunky, busy, over-designed by committee mess that has not grown on me and in fact I like it less and less every day.
- Camaro-esque tail lights
- Too many badges on rear pick flags or letters not both GM
- Side cove vents are too tall
- Hate all the Carbon flash paint - it should be body colored or black.
- Not super thrilled by the new Steering wheel
Hopefully your thread will not turn into a train wreck like mine did.
ALthough I love the front end and many other aspects of it the rear end will be a deal breaker hopefully the C7 Z06/ZR1 will clean up the design.
Last edited by Hirohawa; 04-22-2013 at 06:34 PM.
#53
Burning Brakes
I can only go by pictures,( It was not at the Twin Cities Auto show).
I think the sharp creases came from someone @ Cadillac.
That Ed Guy use to be the Cadillac Top man Now it looks like he added some Cadillac flavor to the C7 design( just a guess).
Likes:
The style ( even though I dont care for Cadillacs)
Side coves
Hood
Overall shape is a good departure (but still looks like a vette)
Dislikes
Looks alittle jacked up in the back ( but the right wheels and lowering it a couple inches will fix that.
It weighs alittle to much (but the safety equipment is a plus)
I give it a 9.1 out of 10.
Add AWD on demand and it will go up to a 9.8
I think the sharp creases came from someone @ Cadillac.
That Ed Guy use to be the Cadillac Top man Now it looks like he added some Cadillac flavor to the C7 design( just a guess).
Likes:
The style ( even though I dont care for Cadillacs)
Side coves
Hood
Overall shape is a good departure (but still looks like a vette)
Dislikes
Looks alittle jacked up in the back ( but the right wheels and lowering it a couple inches will fix that.
It weighs alittle to much (but the safety equipment is a plus)
I give it a 9.1 out of 10.
Add AWD on demand and it will go up to a 9.8
#54
The Consigliere
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Likes (based only on photos and write-ups; haven't seen it yet in person):
- jewel-like headlights. Those really are a nice touch.
- front end styling.
- upgraded chassis and brakes
- really like the sculpted sides, particlularly the doors.
- profile of rear hatch, don't mind the F 599 influence one bit, in fact I like it.
- straight on view of the hatch from the rear, reminds me of the first Stingrays.
- variable valve timing and DI, which allow better torque curve and higher compression.
- e-diff (may be the most impactful mechanical add to the vette; time will tell).
Dislike:
- AFM. IMO this has no place on a sports car in general, and a Corvette (which already gets impressive mileage relative to its performance) in particular. I understand WHY it's there (which itself is annoying as it's not due to customer demand), but IMO it shouldn't be. I really hope the higher perf model(s) don't have it.
- fact that all the vents can't be (at least at this time) either carbon fiber or body color.
- rear end seems busy; can't help but compare it to Ferrari sterns, and they just seem simpler and to flow better.
- with the edgy design, tailpipe outlets should be a different shape.
- A pillars either need to be body color, or they and whole top need to black/carbon fiber etc to match up.
- not available with a fixed roof option (having had a couple C6 fixed roof coupes, the benefit of no squeaks/rattles and perceived quality far exceed the never used, by me, capability of removing the roof panel).
Concerns
- variable valve timing (hopefully this mill will escape cam phaser failures that other mills are experiencing).
- DI (hopefully they whipped the intake valve coking issue some DI mills have experienced)
- exhaust - seems improved based on vids, but worried that haven't competely tuned out the tractor-like idle.
Neutral
- interior. Seems like an upgrade in materials which is good. Design seems fine. I'm not a customer that was all bent out shape re the interior of my C6s (outside of the seats, which I agree should have been better).
- jewel-like headlights. Those really are a nice touch.
- front end styling.
- upgraded chassis and brakes
- really like the sculpted sides, particlularly the doors.
- profile of rear hatch, don't mind the F 599 influence one bit, in fact I like it.
- straight on view of the hatch from the rear, reminds me of the first Stingrays.
- variable valve timing and DI, which allow better torque curve and higher compression.
- e-diff (may be the most impactful mechanical add to the vette; time will tell).
Dislike:
- AFM. IMO this has no place on a sports car in general, and a Corvette (which already gets impressive mileage relative to its performance) in particular. I understand WHY it's there (which itself is annoying as it's not due to customer demand), but IMO it shouldn't be. I really hope the higher perf model(s) don't have it.
- fact that all the vents can't be (at least at this time) either carbon fiber or body color.
- rear end seems busy; can't help but compare it to Ferrari sterns, and they just seem simpler and to flow better.
- with the edgy design, tailpipe outlets should be a different shape.
- A pillars either need to be body color, or they and whole top need to black/carbon fiber etc to match up.
- not available with a fixed roof option (having had a couple C6 fixed roof coupes, the benefit of no squeaks/rattles and perceived quality far exceed the never used, by me, capability of removing the roof panel).
Concerns
- variable valve timing (hopefully this mill will escape cam phaser failures that other mills are experiencing).
- DI (hopefully they whipped the intake valve coking issue some DI mills have experienced)
- exhaust - seems improved based on vids, but worried that haven't competely tuned out the tractor-like idle.
Neutral
- interior. Seems like an upgrade in materials which is good. Design seems fine. I'm not a customer that was all bent out shape re the interior of my C6s (outside of the seats, which I agree should have been better).
#55
Moderator
...The thing I like least about the car as I've mentioned before is that the car has just become too sharp and angular in too many places. I am not saying that it should have the same lines as the C6 but IMO they kind of went overkill with all of the angels and creases, I would have liked the overall body more if it was "toned" down somewhat! ...
Likes:
Upgraded interior
Upgraded Infotainment system
Lighter removable roof panel
Attention to aero - vents, lines, etc.
The new Z51 wheel design
Use of exposed carbon fiber
Availability of "suede"
Use of Michelins
Aluminum frame
Overall design, but I would have liked it even "edgier"
I like the contrasting vents (Carbon Flash Metallic), especially on the lighter colors
New headlights with extensive use of LEDs
Dislikes:
Conservative colors available. I would like to see some bolder colors
Would like the Z51 black wheel to have machine-faced contrasts
Kalahari - looks too orange, but I have not seen it in person
#56
Safety Car
Thread Starter
@ sly, best forum use name yet!
@ hirohawa, I am trying to prevent that and mostly everyone has been great! Your "detailed" views are quite extensive and I agree with most of them, thanks for linking your thread!
@ rad, we'll be curious to hear your thoughts once you're seen it in person, in the meantime thanks for responding!
@ onpoint and zymurgy, I knew you guys would come around and bolster the thread, thanks for voicing your thoughts! And zymurgy, lets go Cowboys!!!
@ hirohawa, I am trying to prevent that and mostly everyone has been great! Your "detailed" views are quite extensive and I agree with most of them, thanks for linking your thread!
@ rad, we'll be curious to hear your thoughts once you're seen it in person, in the meantime thanks for responding!
@ onpoint and zymurgy, I knew you guys would come around and bolster the thread, thanks for voicing your thoughts! And zymurgy, lets go Cowboys!!!
#58
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Ron I'm sitting here laughing my A$$ off because he is on my ignore list and I had no clue as to what he said until I saw you quote him!!
No worries my friend, just ignore him like I do. Hope you're enjoying you new GS, we'll have to meet up now that the weather is better! I hear they have alot of cars/Vettes in Yorktown every Sunday, maybe we'll meet up there soon! Sorry guys, back on topic! As a side note I want to thank you guys, especially the ones who wrote extensive detailed responses! I'm signing off, see ya'all tomorrow!
No worries my friend, just ignore him like I do. Hope you're enjoying you new GS, we'll have to meet up now that the weather is better! I hear they have alot of cars/Vettes in Yorktown every Sunday, maybe we'll meet up there soon! Sorry guys, back on topic! As a side note I want to thank you guys, especially the ones who wrote extensive detailed responses! I'm signing off, see ya'all tomorrow!
Last edited by johnodrake; 04-22-2013 at 08:08 PM.
#59
Le Mans Master
#60
Le Mans Master
Another Like I forgot about but saw a moment ago....
Michelins.
Michelins.